WAY TOO EARLY Predict the Patriot’s Recievers for 2019

[oceansizer]

Nope. That’s not better than the following TOP TO BOTTOM:

Edelman
Harry
Gordon
Thomas
Inman
Dorsett

These WRs core of NE and Browns is comparable ( at least on the paper ) but the difference is who throws them ball to. With all due respect for Mayfield one good season does not make him a proven QB especially in playoffs ( if Browns somehow get them ).

 

[BelichickFan]

These WRs core of NE and Browns is comparable ( at least on the paper ) but the difference is who throws them ball to. With all due respect for Mayfield one good season does not make him a proven QB especially in playoffs ( if Browns somehow get them ).

Without Gordon I give the WR edge to the Browns. With Gordon, probably to the Patriots. Just WR, though, passing game and offense I give the definite edge to the Patriots even without Gordon, with Brady, McDaniels, etc.

 

[50-yard-line]

Kareem Hunt can keep giggling; he ain’t a WR
Also, if you want to play that game:

James White
Da Burkmeister
Sony PlayStation
Damien Harris

You lose.

Lose what? I'm a Pat's fan.

You;re going to tell me with a straight face that all things (salary/QB throwing/coaching, etc), you'd take:

Edelman, Harry, DT, and Inman

over

Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham, Rashard Higgins, and Callaway?

Cripes, I'm a homer and that's absurd. The only reason I threw in Hunt was because of the expected..."Well, our RBs are like receivers" reply.

Look at the statement to which I was responding. Right now, Cleveland looks like the strongest WR unit in the league.

If Gordon and Thomas come back and play at a reasonable level for them, the Pats are probably top 10 at that position, but they aren't the best in the league. Come on.

 

[Dragda]

in favor of who instead?

We just don’t know. I get that it’s nice to discuss but s*it happens. Remember last year we had Matthews and some other guy that got cut? Then we ended up short at the position. It’s anyone’s guess. When it all falls together like we expect is when it works out best because it means we have obvious talent. That doesn’t happen that often. Certainly not this season. Preseason heroes always get cut.

 

[Uptown]

Lose what? I'm a Pat's fan.

You;re going to tell me with a straight face that all things (salary/QB throwing/coaching, etc), you'd take:

Edelman, Harry, DT, and Inman

over

Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham, Rashard Higgins, and Callaway?

Cripes, I'm a homer and that's absurd. The only reason I threw in Hunt was because of the expected..."Well, our RBs are like receivers" reply.

Look at the statement to which I was responding. Right now, Cleveland looks like the strongest WR unit in the league.

If Gordon and Thomas come back and play at a reasonable level for them, the Pats are probably top 10 at that position, but they aren't the best in the league. Come on.

Bruh....that’s exactly what I said, right??? I’m taking ALL (6) of the WRs I mentioned over CLE’s. Straight face n’ all. You’re lucky there isn’t a straight face emoji on here, or I’d really do you in

 

[Ring 6]

It said he was a slot receiver, Andy. Not sure what the confusion is.

Playing in the slot does not = WR. TEs are also slot receivers. You are taking a comment in an article and turning it into something it’s not.

In any event his size, speed, agility, measurables and experience are all TE.
But I’m dropping it here, have a last work if you wish.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Playing in the slot does not = WR. TEs are also slot receivers. You are taking a comment in an article and turning it into something it’s not.

In any event his size, speed, agility, measurables and experience are all TE.
But I’m dropping it here, have a last work if you wish.

I will have the last word because to you it's black and white when it isn't.

LaCosse sometimes lines up on the line. That makes him a TE for that play.

Other times LaCosse lines up as the A, H or in the slot, thus making him a slot receiver.

If you want to lable him a TE, fine but that is not his only position in the offense.

If JE11 lines up as X, Harris Z, LaCosse in the slot and Watson Y, and one RB whats the personnel grouping?

It's position- less football, Andy. Get used to it

 

[Richard Camembert]

Oh my God! We lost a hobbled Gronk and Chris Hogan. Rebuilding year?

lame

I didn’t say rebuilding year, just that we lost one of our two elite receiving threats in Gronk, plus Hogan who was serviceable, and they probably need two of Harry, Thomas, and Gordon to hit if they want to exceed what they had last year in the receiving corps. Christ, Thomas and Gordon might not even play. Also, you saying Gronk sucked last year and is easy to replace does a supremely talented and effective player a massive disservice. Did you see how effective he was in the run game down the stretch?

Sigh it’s May, I’m sure BB and Caserio will sort it out.

 

[Bruins29]

I didn’t say rebuilding year, just that we lost one of our two elite receiving threats in Gronk, plus Hogan who was serviceable, and they probably need two of Harry, Thomas, and Gordon to hit if they want to exceed what they had last year in the receiving corps. Christ, Thomas and Gordon might not even play. Also, you saying Gronk sucked last year and is easy to replace does a supremely talented and effective player a massive disservice. Did you see how effective he was in the run game down the stretch?

Sigh it’s May, I’m sure BB and Caserio will sort it out.

?????

Hogan was an elite receiving threat?? Did you just write that?

I said Gronk "sucked" last year? I said he is "easy to replace?"

 

[Richard Camembert]

?????

Hogan was an elite receiving threat?? Did you just write that?

I said Gronk "sucked" last year? I said he is "easy to replace?"

Sigh. No, I did not just write that. I said we lost one of our two elite receiving threats in Gronk. The other one is Edelman.

We also lost Hogan, he was serviceable.

I think we possibly will have less production from this unit this year as opposed to last year unless either Harry is a hit, or Gordon or Thomas can play and play well. Probably need two of those three to happen to have a better unit this year.

And ya, you minimized the loss of these two players. If they aren’t that important they would be easy to replace, no?

Wow. In the SB Edelman and Gronkowski combined for 16 of the 21 receptions and 228 of the 262 yards the team got. (Of course Hogan did get the goose egg in that game lol.). Don’t you think they need more producers in this unit, especially with Gronk gone?

 

[Bruins29]

Sigh. No, I did not just write that. I said we lost one of our two elite receiving threats in Gronk. The other one is Edelman.

We also lost Hogan, he was serviceable.

I think we possibly will have less production from this unit this year as opposed to last year unless either Harry is a hit, or Gordon or Thomas can play and play well. Probably need two of those three to happen to have a better unit this year.

And ya, you minimized the loss of these two players. If they aren’t that important they would be easy to replace, no?

Wow. In the SB Edelman and Gronkowski combined for 16 of the 21 receptions and 228 of the 262 yards the team got. (Of course Hogan did get the goose egg in that game lol.). Don’t you think they need more producers in this unit, especially with Gronk gone?

If you cant see that a hobbled Gronk being gone isnt a major issue and also that this team always has a plan and figures it out than you are either a major chicken little, trolling, or you have not been paying attention for the past 17 years or so.

Anyone who even hints that Hogan being gone is even a minor issue needs their head examined. And Gronk will be replaced by 3 other tight ends and many other weapons that the team has picked up.

Also, As mentioned you stating that it will be "easy" to game plan against a BB team with JMD as OC and TB as QB is laughable.

 

[goheels22002]

For those of us who think LaCosse is really the 5th WR it makes sense

Matt LaCosse is a TE. If you're thinking that LaCosse might be featured as an H back, I agree with that given his size and mobility. But as far as roster groupings go, he's in the TE room. The trio of Seferian-Jenkins, Ben Watson and LaCosse at TE is a pretty good group of pass catchers.

 

[luuked]

But as far as roster groupings go, he's in the TE room. The trio of Seferian-Jenkins, Ben Watson and LaCosse at TE is a pretty good group of pass catchers.

And that matters because ?

White is also in the RB room but his biggest impact comes on plays in the passing game. I think @robertweathers put it nicely.. in many ways all of it has evolved to the point where parts are so interchangeable that they are almost positionless. The same can be said on defense with how our DBs are often used for traditional LB work.

My point is that it matters less what the positional title of a player is and more where he can be used. And if LaCosse ends up playing a lot out of the slot as essentially a big WR then this is one role that doesn't need extra depth from the group of WR.

 

[Tony2046]

He surely isn’t a wr.
A TE sized player with average TE type receiving skills who doesn’t block well isn’t a WR. I have no clue where you are coming up with that idea.

None of his measurable are WR level he has never played WR abs his production as a TE isn’t even decent receiving TE level.

Curious if you have watched any of his film from last season or just basing your opinion off of stats because imo he is definitely a better than average pass catching TE. He started last season low on the depth chart and moved up because of injuries ( including Sanders) and made the best of it. Most of his targets came in the second half of the season and getting the most during the last two weeks.

I can't comment on his blocking ability because I haven't watched for that yet although I've read multiple times that it his weakness.

Reminds me of Kelce.

 

[Marqui]

Harry
Edelman
Thomas
Gordon
Dorsett
Inman

 

[Minitron]

WR atthe start of the season:
Harry
Edelman
Dorsett
Inman
Myers

WR around Thanksgiving:
Harry
Edelman
Dorsett
Thomas
Inman (if Gordon returns he takes his spot)

TE at the start of the season
ASJ
LaCosse
Izzo

TE after Week 4
ASJ
LaCosse
Watson

Bold prediction: LaCosse is going to be our No.1 TE next year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Matt LaCosse is a TE. If you're thinking that LaCosse might be featured as an H back, I agree with that given his size and mobility. But as far as roster groupings go, he's in the TE room. The trio of Seferian-Jenkins, Ben Watson and LaCosse at TE is a pretty good group of pass catchers.

Yes. He is a TE. I project he will also be the 5th WR

 

[RobertWeathers]

And that matters because ?

White is also in the RB room but his biggest impact comes on plays in the passing game. I think @robertweathers put it nicely.. in many ways all of it has evolved to the point where parts are so interchangeable that they are almost positionless. The same can be said on defense with how our DBs are often used for traditional LB work.

My point is that it matters less what the positional title of a player is and more where he can be used. And if LaCosse ends up playing a lot out of the slot as essentially a big WR then this is one role that doesn't need extra depth from the group of WR.

Fans are struggling with the "position less" concept when in fact the team has been doing it for years

 

[italian pat patriot]

Harry
Edelman
Thomas
Gordon
Dorsett
Inman

I am more then ok with this

 

[Ivan]

I am more then ok with this

I’m not. No one knows if or when Gordon will be available and Thomas is coming off a serious injury. Hopefully they can pick up a WR this summer, or one will rise out of the back end of the roster.