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2018 Training Camp Thread - Day 1 (7-26-18)

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Other than the fact philly had an nfl high 291 pressures, Gave up an nfl low 80 ypg rushing (to our 114), held opponents to 33% to our 40% on third down conversions, had 13 more turnovers forced then yes these 2 defenses looked similar last season.

The only things similar were scoring defense and team sacks. Philly was better everywhere else.
Since scoring defense is what matters most, all those things are just different ways to get to the same result.
 
Since scoring defense is what matters most, all those things are just different ways to get to the same result.

That 4th quarter was the perfect example showing the differences. One was able to get home to essentially finish the game and one wasn’t.
 
That 4th quarter was the perfect example showing the differences. One was able to get home to essentially finish the game and one wasn’t.

The Patriots 2016 defense did the job in the 4th quarter vs ATL.

Same philosophy and scheme as the 2017 D. The difference is it had more talent than 2017.
 
The Patriots 2016 defense did the job in the 4th quarter vs ATL.

Same philosophy and scheme as the 2017 D. The difference is it had more talent than 2017.

Not arguing that. I agree completely talent wise 2016>17. Just pointing out the difference in defense between philly and NE last season.
 
About that cliff.. smh ... @ Max Kellerman

 
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What? You don't think that Chung is an excellent, A-1 match-up for a speedy wideout?

The real Defensive mind BB was abducted by Aliens in the SB.
 
If Sony Michel can Catch the Defense is already in trouble we know he can already run.

Note to self: draft Sony Michel for fantasy football.
 
What? You don't think that Chung is an excellent, A-1 match-up for a speedy wideout?

You know who I'm really mad at that so called Rocket Scientist Matt Patricia who never disputed the master plan that was a failure from the beginning.
 
I just want you all to know that this style visor he is wearing is from 2012! Shows you how much he cherishes his things.

 
Kontra that's it: I have move on I think.
 
Not arguing that. I agree completely talent wise 2016>17. Just pointing out the difference in defense between philly and NE last season.
I know Andy's position and I think you both have valid points. I think most would take Philly's D last year over NEs
 
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