2018 Training Camp Thread - Day 1 (7-26-18)

[maineman209]

I don't think Eric Rowe is anything more than a sufficient #3. Never have but Belichick likes him for whatever reason.

I was impressed with JJones last season.

I think that BB clearly liked Rowe - (past tense) as a prospect (and still liked him after Rowe's season in Philly and his first season here) - based on his size/measureables/tape/potential, etc. Whether or not BB "likes" Rowe (present tense) is an open question for me.

Rowe, due to various injuries, appeared in only 8 games and played only 259 snaps in 2017, after appearing in only 9 games (452 snaps) in 2016. Rowe's development overall and within the Pats' coverage schemes has been hindered by his lack of availability for practices and games. Frankly, I think that Jon Jones passed Rowe on the development curve last season.

JJ played 439 defensive snaps last season and was very good, statistically, on a per-snap/per-target basis, and also earned public praise from BB on more than one occasion.

Given how much competition there is at CB this Camp for five spots, competition that includes a pretty good veteran and a 2nd-round draft pick, and considering that Rowe doesn't play ST, I'm classifying Rowe as being on the bubble for now. There are guys that he needs to unequivocally beat in order to retain his roster spot.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Frankly, I think that Jon Jones passed Rowe on the development curve last season.

JJ played 439 defensive snaps last season and was very good, statistically, on a per-snap/per-target basis, and also earned public praise from BB on more than one occasion.

I too was mightily impressed by Jones and even more so when re-watching games, although he's not quite the same kind of a player as Rowe.

Still, he had a major injury right at the end of last season, so it's unlikely he'll be at his best this year. If he is, it would be a big bonus.

 

[maineman209]

I too was mightily impressed by Jones and even more so when re-watching games, although he's not quite the same kind of a player as Rowe.

Still, he had a major injury right at the end of last season, so it's unlikely he'll be at his best this year. If he is, it would be a big bonus.

It's not clear how "major" JJ's injury was. The "hot take" reports speculated about an Achilles, but a couple days later, the consensus seemed to be "broken foot". AFAIK, he was sent to IR without any official information from the Pats as to the nature of his injury.

 

[jah]

So we're discounting JMac because he couldn't cover a TE? If he's covering tight ends in real games that's on the coaching staff, not him.

 

[Sicilian]

So we're discounting JMac because he couldn't cover a TE? If he's covering tight ends in real games that's on the coaching staff, not him.

Also, a TE on the first day of training camp, which is also the first day he's really participated in team drills. Let's not give up on him just yet.

 

[Ring 6]

So we're discounting JMac because he couldn't cover a TE? If he's covering tight ends in real games that's on the coaching staff, not him.

It was also in a drill not a 7 on 7 or 11 on 11 play.

 

[captain stone]

They did not face the Rams last season. That was 2016.

Yes,they did. The game was on November 19th. Minny won 24 - 7.

Oops, I thought you were referring to the Pats, not the Vikings.

Nevermind.

 

[n6249c]

In fairness to Welker, Edelman has had an additional four months to recover.

And more PEDs

 

[n6249c]

@AtomicDawg would you please consider changing the title of this thread to "2018 Patriots Training Camp thread"?

I would be happy if all training camp news, from day one to the last day be placed in the same thread so I know where to go to catch up on all news when I'm away for a few days.

I'd prefer separate thread for each day