You ARE trolling. Not only are you trolling you (and you are not alone here) keep showing a complete lack of understanding about how the game of football fundamentally works.
The question of who is the GOAT at the QB position is not even a question.....at this point in history. Tom Brady is as it pertains to EVERY statistical mark, from championships, appearances and individual stats.
Sure, Brady is the most accomplished QB ever. No one is disputing that. Mahomes will ultimately torpedo most if not all of Brady's records. And we'll see how many rings he ultimately gets. And you and the others on this board will do nothing but blame the officials for helping him.
BUT, as I have said ad nauseum, football is less dependant on individual "stars" than any other team sport. It is a TEAM game, and having a great QB is nice, but a lot of "great QB's don't get to hoist Lombardi's very often. It is HARD to even get to the superbowl, let alone win one. Brady was STILL one of the best QB's in the game and the Pats were one of the best teams, when he went TEN years without winning one
Just think about the vagaries of the game. Mahomes might not have even gotten to the game if not for a roughing call at the end of the AFCCG. Brady might have had more rings if not for about a dozen non calls on the helmet catch play. Officials are not the only random factor that decides games, great plays by individuals, good and bad calls, adjustments, time management, etc all factor into the randomness of the game..
Of course. I can list all the lucky instances that helped Brady and Mahomes win their rings. I can list the countless teammates and coaching that were instrumental for both of them. If this is the case, you agree that a GOAT QB in football is nonsense talk, right?
And as an aside on "spy-gate" - It was a travesty of hypocrisy. People forget that it had NOTHING to do with whether it was legal to FILM opponents signals. It was legal. It was all about WHERE it was allowed. Which, when you think about it, is ridiculous. The entire stink about was entirely made up by a group of jealous owners who couldn't explain why the Pats were so consistently good for so long
Pretty clear you don't understand the rules that were in place at the time. The location issue had nothing to do with video taping SIGNALS. It may have had to do with videotaping other elements of the game such as down and distance and formations. I don't want to post the rules again like I did in another thread, since Ian will delete it.
That was Belichick's point. Thanks for making it. Rule changes must be voted on by all teams.
Except the league interpreted that rule as one that was already in place long before the memo came out. If Bill had questions about it he should have checked with the league office. He said screw them and did it any way and got caught for cheating.
Every team was taping. EVRY TEAM.
Prove it. And before you go on and say the league was just jealous of NE's success, i don't see that same jealousy towards Mahomes, Reid, and the Chiefs right now. Even if they win a few more people won't question their titles. There is nothing but respect around the league for Mahomes being the AFCCG EVERY YEAR since his first season as a starter and three super bowl appearances. The only people who are griping are Patriots fans (for obvious reasons) and fans of the AFCW teams.
Belichick ****ed up by continuing to do it from the sideline as prohibited by the league. The location from which the taping was being done was the problem. Ok, bad on Belichick, the team got punished. They won 3 more Super Bowls after Spygate (and the even more ridiculous Deflategate). There is no proof that the Patriots benefitted in any significant way from any tapes. The league did not conclude the Patriots had gained any competitive advantage from the tapes. They punished them for the manner and location of the taping.
The fact Bill was doing it for 7 years straight tells me that it was more than just a little helpful. only an idiot would have his best research assistant in Ernie Adams waste time reviewing opponents' defensive signals for 7 years unless it helped.
