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I said to my kids last weekend when Gostkowski had a long kick, "he'll make this, it's over 40 yards."
Here's an idea, maybe his teams should take a few fourth down False Starts on XP's and short FG's.
No disrespect to Gostkowski, whom I defended often out here, but, in addition to impressive stats, #4's kick to tie the Tuck game (greatest kick under playoff pressure in the history of the NFL from 45 yards into the teeth of a blizzard) and his kicks to win two SB's, including a walkoff winner and a four-seconds-to-go winner, make Adam Vinatieri the best kicker in Pats history and, subject to debate of course, in the history of the NFL.Gost is the best kicker in Pats history. AV was great but Gost was better. He faltered a bit due to a hip injury last year. It's too bad that he isn't still here, no matter why it happened.
Thanks for the fact check. A sports psychologist would have a field day with that information!Since it came up here I decided to check. You're teaching your children correctly. In his career Gost is 131 of 143 from 30-39 yards (92%) and his bigger drops are 76% from 40-49 and 74% from 50-59.
I'd still like to see him here, especially now that he seems to be getting over his injury.
No disrespect to Gostkowski, whom I defended often out here, but, in addition to impressive stats, #4's kick to tie the Tuck game (greatest kick under playoff pressure in the history of the NFL from 45 yards into the teeth of a blizzard) and his kicks to win two SB's, including a walkoff winner and a four-seconds-to-go winner, make Adam Vinatieri the best kicker in Pats history and, subject to debate of course, in the history of the NFL.
No disrespect to Gostkowski, whom I defended often out here, but, in addition to impressive stats, #4's kick to tie the Tuck game (greatest kick under playoff pressure in the history of the NFL from 45 yards into the teeth of a blizzard) and his kicks to win two SB's, including a walkoff winner and a four-seconds-to-go winner, make Adam Vinatieri the best kicker in Pats history and, subject to debate of course, in the history of the NFL.
Stats wise, as measured by FGM%, yeah, I guess so, if that's the definition of "overall game." Unfair to use FGM as a raw number because AV has played so much longer.No question that AV's kick in the Snow Bowl was the greatest kick of all time, but I'm looking at the overall game of both players and I'd take Gost. The funny thing is, we also had Robbie Gould in here.
He signed a 1 year contract for frickin $2.75m. Are you saying the Pats couldn't have afforded Gostkowski for that amount.......... ?? On such an important spot. Where he plays a dual role for kick-offs as well as FGs/XPs. And he's been great with targeting the 0 yard line on high hang kickoffs the way BB wants so we can tackle inside 25 yard line on returns.
All that and we couldn't keep Gostkowski? GIve me a break.
Another blunder by BB. We let Vinateiri go when we didn't need to, but at least we found Gostkowski, with a draft selection that year. But we got lucky. As if it's that easy to replace a HoF kicker with another HoF candidate. He tried to pull the same trick again, with Justin Rohrwasser and it COMPLETELY backfired and fell flat on his face.
Much respect, 1960, but I cannot agree. AV may not be statistically what Gost was, but he's better. The term "Clutch" doesn't do AV justice. If the NFL had a logo like the NBA, it would be football's version of Mr. Clutch, AV.Gost is the best kicker in Pats history. AV was great but Gost was better. He faltered a bit due to a hip injury last year. It's too bad that he isn't still here, no matter why it happened.
No disrespect to Gostkowski, whom I defended often out here, but, in addition to impressive stats, #4's kick to tie the Tuck game (greatest kick under playoff pressure in the history of the NFL from 45 yards into the teeth of a blizzard) and his kicks to win two SB's, including a walkoff winner and a four-seconds-to-go winner, make Adam Vinatieri the best kicker in Pats history and, subject to debate of course, in the history of the NFL.
others have made that argument. AV made the kick he had to make to win the game. There were probably half a dozen plays that Brady could have made to give them a bigger lead as well. All that matters is the outcome.Vinatieri's clutch kicks give him the upper hand in this discussion BUT you can't really give him huge credit for the Carolian SB winning kick because he missed two short FGs during the game.
That's a fair enough point, but "life is unfair." AV had the opportunities and made the kicks. It is, by definition, unknowable what Gostkowski would have done if he had similar opportunities. Fair? Nope. Reality? Yes.FYI if you look at the numbers Gost was more clutch during his career. So the whole clutch thing has been disproven several times. Did Gost make as many dramatic kicks as AV? No, but he was not in a position to do so as often.
Life is unfair. Gost was a better kicker than AV. The numbers are the numbers and they were run for the same amount of years in their careers as well. That way AV would not be penalized for kicking longer and as he got older. There are no ifs, ands, or buts...This has all been done before.That's a fair enough point, but "life is unfair." AV had the opportunities and made the kicks. It is, by definition, unknowable what Gostkowski would have done if he had similar opportunities. Fair? Nope. Reality? Yes.
That's a fair enough point, but "life is unfair." AV had the opportunities and made the kicks. It is, by definition, unknowable what Gostkowski would have done if he had similar opportunities. Fair? Nope. Reality? Yes.
We also had Phil Dawson on our PS during the 1998 season...No question that AV's kick in the Snow Bowl was the greatest kick of all time, but I'm looking at the overall game of both players and I'd take Gost. The funny thing is, we also had Robbie Gould in here.
To be fair to AV, one of those unsuccessful FG attempts was blocked.Vinatieri's clutch kicks give him the upper hand in this discussion BUT you can't really give him huge credit for the Carolian SB winning kick because he missed two short FGs during the game.