99 ex-Patriots sit on active rosters, practice squads and IR lists around the league

[IcyPatriot]

How many former Patriots reside around the NFL? ‘Whatever the number is, it’s a lot’

“There’s, like, 70-something guys in the league that have been here that are playing for somebody else.”
Bill Belichick’s rough estimation in his Friday press conference wasn’t that rough at all.

As of Nov. 24, 71 former New England Patriots players reside on 53-man rosters around the rest of the NFL. Another 16 find themselves on practice squads, while 12 more find themselves on injured reserve.All totaled, that number sits at 99.

“I don't know. Whatever the number is, it's a lot,” said the Patriots head coach. “Seventy to 90, somewhere in there depending on how you want to count the practice squad players and today’s waiver wire versus yesterday's waiver wire. There's a lot of guys out there. It's one of the highest numbers in the league. There's a lot of guys out there.”

 

[leehanu]

Did Patriots draft all these players or they just played for Pats at one time?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

So, BB finally admits that Captain Stone and other Patsfan posters who decried the cutting or trading of their binkies were right!

 

[slam]

Did Patriots draft all these players or they just played for Pats at one time?

The latter.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

I wonder what other teams numbers would be. Are the Pat's numbers high, low, or average in comparison to other teams.....

 

[Jackson 2]

Felger was just saying on the pregame show that this is Bill's way of defending himself as a GM against those, Iike Felger, who think BB had a bad off season with personnel.

 

[kennyb]

A meaningless number. 65 of those or so are current pats. Given the number of journeymen who have played on 4 or 5 or more teams, it's impossible to know what the league average is. Plus many of those are borderline (jag) players almost by definition.

 

[Tony2046]

A meaningless number. 65 of those or so are current pats. Given the number of journeymen who have played on 4 or 5 or more teams, it's impossible to know what the league average is. Plus many of those are borderline (jag) players almost by definition.

The article discusses former Patriot players and lists them all by team.

 

[maineman209]

There are quite a few just from this year's cuts and UFA ex-Pats (pun intended). If I have time later, I'll try to work up a current list using rostermon.com.

The numbers vary quite a bit from week-to-week, though. A few of the Pats 2017 cuts have been on 2-3 different teams since.

 

[meatface]

Only one on the Texans surprised me. We have more former players on their coaching staff

 

[IcyPatriot]

The article discusses former Patriot players and lists them all by team.

Readng the actual article has never been the norm here.

 

[Tony2046]

Readng the actual article has never been the norm here.

The Hawt Take crowd find reading the article "meaningless".

I would say he couldn't have been more wrong but I've seen his other posts.

 

[jmt57]

Composition of the current Patriot roster (with apologies in advance for any errors or omissions):

43 have never been with any other team:
- 28 players drafted by the Patriots
- 15 signed as a rookie udfa

31 have been with another NFL organization:
- 19 free agents that were previously with another team
- 2 restricted free agents
- 1 signed off another team's practice squad
- 7 acquired via a trade
- 2 waiver claims


Originally drafted by the Patriots:
12 - QB Tom Brady, 2000, 6.199, Michigan
90 - DT Malcom Brown, 2015, 1.32, Texas
61 - OT Marcus Cannon, 2011, 5.138, TCU
49 - LS Joe Cardona, 2015, 5.166, Navy
43 - ST Nate Ebner, 2012, 6.197, Ohio State
71 - OT Cameron Fleming, 2014, 4.140, Stanford
98 - DE Trey Flowers, 2015, 4.101, Arkansas
3 - K Stephen Gostkowski, 2006, 4.118, Memphis
87 - TE Rob Gronkowski, 2010, 2.42, Arizona
30 - S Duron Harmon, 2013, 3.91, Rutgers
75 - OL Ted Karras, 2016, 6.221, Illinois
69 - G Shaq Mason, 2015, 4.131, Georgia Tech
32 - S Devin McCourty, 2010, 1.27, Rutgers
37 - S Jordan Richards, 2015, 2.64, Stanford
52 - LB Elandon Roberts, 2016, 6.214, Houston
18 - ST Matthew Slater, 2008, 5.153, UCLA
77 - OT Nate Solder, 2011, 1.17, Colorado
62 - G Joe Thuney, 2016, 3.78, North Carolina State
28 - RB James White, 2014, 4.130, Wisconsin
91 - DL Deatrich Wise, 2017, 4.131, Arkansas
11 - WR Julian Edelman, 2009, 7.232, Kent State [IR]
54 - LB Dont'a Hightower, 2012, 1.25, Alabama [IR]
41 - CB Cyrus Jones, 2016, 2.60, Alabama [IR]
19 - WR Malcolm Mitchell, 2016, 4.112, Georgia [IR]
95 - DE Derek Rivers, 2017, 3.83, Youngstown St [IR]
99 - DT Vincent Valentine, 2016, 3.96, Nebraska [IR]
63 - OT Tony Garcia, 2017, 3.85, Troy [NFI]
92 - DE Geneo Grissom, 2015, 3.97, Oklahoma [PS]


Signed as undrafted rookie free agent (never been with another team):
6 - P Ryan Allen, 2013, Louisiana Tech
60 - C David Andrews, 2015, Georgia
38 - RB Brandon Bolden, 2012, Ole Miss
70 - DT Adam Butler, 2017, Vanderbilt
21 - CB Malcolm Butler, 2014, West Alabama
74 - OL Cole Croston, 2017, Iowa
47 - TE Jacob Hollister, 2017, Wyoming
31 - CB Jonathan Jones, 2016, Auburn
36 - ST Brandon King, 2015, Auburn
51 - DE Keionta Davis, 2017, Tenn-Chattanooga [NFI]
76 - OL Andrew Jelks, 2017, Vanderbilt [NFI]
48 - LB Harvey Langi, 2017, Brigham Young [NFI]
81 - WR Cody Hollister, 2017, Arkansas [PS]
26 - S David Jones, 2017, Richmond [PS]
39 - S Damarius Travis, 2017, Minnesota [PS]


Signed as unrestricted free agent, previously with another team:
80 - WR Danny Amendola, 2013 via Rams (orig w/Dallas; also w/Philly)
97 - DT Alan Branch, 2014 via Bills (orig drafted by Arizona; also w/Seattle)
34 - RB Rex Burkhead, 2017 via Bengals (drafted by Cincy in 2013)
23 - S Patrick Chung, 2014 via Eagles (NEP 2009 draft pick, 2.34)
46 - FB James Develin, 2012 via Bengals (UDFA, 2010)
24 - CB Stephon Gilmore, 2017 via Bills (Buf 2010 draft pick, 1.10)
93 - DE Lawrence Guy, 2017 via Ravens (GB 2011 7th round draft pick, also with Indy and San Diego)
45 - LB David Harris, 2017 via Jets (NYJ 2007 draft pick, 2.47)
2 - QB Brian Hoyer, 2017 via 49ers (Pats UDFA, 2009; also w/Steelers, Cardinals, Browns, Texans and Bears)
94 - DE Ricky Jean-Francois, 2017 via GB (drafted by SF; also w/Indy, Wash)
33 - RB Dion Lewis, 2015 via Eagles (5th round 2011 draft pick; also w/Browns, Colts)
51 - LB Trevor Reilly, 2017 via Dolphins (2014 7th round pick by Jets)
58 - LB Shea McClellin, 2016 via Bears (2012 1st round pick by Chicago) [IR]
64 - C James Ferentz, 2017 via Broncos (udfa w/Texans) [PS]
27 - CB Ryan Lewis, 2017 via Cardinals (2017 udfa w/Arizona) [PS]
84 - WR Riley McCarron, 2017 via Texans (2017 udfa w/Houston) [PS]
?? - WR Bernard Reedy, 2017 via Bucs (2014 udfa w/Atlanta) [PS]
44 - TE Will Tye, 2017 via Jets (2015 udfa w/Giants) [PS]
22 - CB Jomal Wiltz, 2017 via Eagles (2017 udfa w/Philly) [PS]


Signed as a restricted free agent:
35 - RB Mike Gillislee, 2017 via Bills (drafted by Miami, also w/Arizona)
15 - WR Chris Hogan, 2016 via Bills (orig UDFA w/SF; also w/NYG, Miami)


Signed off another team's practice squad:
55 - DE Eric Lee, 2017 via Bills (2016 UDFA w/Texans)


Acquired via trade:
83 - TE Dwayne Allen, 2017, from Colts
29 - CB Johnson Bademosi, 2017 from Lions (orig UDFA w/Browns)
14 - WR Brandin Cooks, 2017 from Saints (NO 2014 draft pick, 1.14)
13 - WR Phillip Dorsett, 2017, from Colts (Indy 2015 draft pick, 1.29)
59 - LB Marquis Flowers, 2017, from Bengals (Cin 2014 draft pick 6.212)
25 - S Eric Rowe, 2016 from Eagles (Phil 2015 draft pick 2.47)
53 - LB Kyle Van Noy, 2016 from Lions (Det 2014 draft pick 2.40)


Claimed off waivers:
88 - TE Martellus Bennett, 2017 from Packers (drafted by Dallas; also w/Giants, Bears, Patriots)
68 - OT LaAdrian Waddle, 2015 from Lions (Det UDFA, 2013)


Note: some players such as Brandon King and Cameron Fleming were released and re-signed, but were included in their original status since they were never with another organization. Same goes for a player who became a free agent after his contract expired but re-signed with the Patriots. Players such as Chung and Bennett are placed in the categories depending on how they were most recently acquired, rather than how they were originally signed before departing to another team.


The Patriots have 31 player that have played on a cumulative 63 different NFL teams.

It stands to reason that better teams (like the Patriots) would presumably have a lower than average number (63) on their own roster, and higher than average number (99) of their former players on other team's rosters. The reason is simple: it is more difficult to make the roster of a good team and easier to make the roster of a bad team.

 

[jmt57]

Did Patriots draft all these players or they just played for Pats at one time?

22 draftees, 17 on active rosters.

2017: Conor McDermott
2016: Jacoby Brissett, Kamu Grieger-Hill, Devin Lucien (PS)
2015: A.J. Derby (IR), Darryl Roberts
2014: Dominique Easley (IR), Jimmy Garoppolo, Jon Halapio, Zach Moore (PS)
2013: Jamie Collins (IR), Logan Ryan
2012: Chandler Jones, Tavon Wilson
2011: Shane Vereen, Ryan Mallett, Lee Smith
2010: Ted Larsen
2009: Darius Butler, Brandon Tate
2005: Matt Cassel
2004: Ben Watson

 

[farn]

KVN is a guy I do NOT want them to lose.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

 

[kennyb]

The article discusses former Patriot players and lists them all by team.

Yes, that's beside the point. How many players do the broncos, chiefs, steelers etc have on other teams??? Is 99 above average or below? Just giving a number with no comparison or context is meaningless.

So they list which pats players are on other teams. Oh, wow, why didn't you say so! That changes everything.

 

[kennyb]

The Hawt Take crowd find reading the article "meaningless".

I would say he couldn't have been more wrong but I've seen his other posts.

Is 99 a lot? It proves what? Patriots are good at drafting? BB is a good GM? It's meaningless.

Your retort that "it lists the patriots players" is what's called a non sequitur. It makes no sense, doesn't address my point at all.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Yes, that's beside the point. How many players do the broncos, chiefs, steelers etc have on other teams??? Is 99 above average or below? Just giving a number with no comparison or context is meaningless.

So they list which pats players are on other teams. Oh, wow, why didn't you say so! That changes everything.

Belichick thinks we are one of the highest ... that's good enough for me ... it's not really important anyways.

Transcript: Bill Belichick Press Conference 11/24
Q: Do you mean the highest number of guys that have been here in New England that are now still on rosters elsewhere in the league?

BB: I think we have more players that are playing on other teams. I don't know if we're the highest. We're one of the highest; I can tell you that. I think we're up there pretty high. It depends on how you want to count them - starters, roster players, IR, practice squad. You can run all of the lists that you run and count them up however you want to count them up, but however you want to count them up, I think we'll be up there pretty high. Let's call it 90 players - there are 30 teams – that's three per team. We can talk about that every week, but we won't.

 

[kennyb]

Readng the actual article has never been the norm here.

Apparently the norm for an idiot like you is that can't understand a simple post.

I deal with statistics every day so I recognize that when a number is used without context it can sound meaningful without being so.

You are a fool. 99 players, so what? What's the average? It's a poor way to judge drafting or GM efficacy. You're a buffoon though so I wouldn't expect you to understand anything about numbers.