Everyone wants Tom to retire with a super bowl win.

[Foxypats]

The only reason people want him to retire is that they don't want to deal with him anymore and they are desperately hoping that the Pats become very mediocre and average after that.

 

[Redman443]

The only reason people want him to retire is that they don't want to deal with him anymore and they are desperately hoping that the Pats become very mediocre and average after that.

Yes that’s why if we win I really don’t want him to retire. I want him to do what he said he wanted to do. Play until age 45 or at least do what Kobe did.

 

[TB_Helmet]

I don't know, seems straightforward to put together from all the stories we've heard over the years.
- He wants to keep playing until he sucks
- He loves the game so much that the doesn't want to reach that suckage point, and therefore has set a goal of trying to keep his body in the best possible shape until age 45 hoping it'll keep him from sucking
- If he still doesn't suck at that point, he'll reassess
- He has a family now and wants to be there for them, and part of his compromise is to avoid OTAs and do his offseason training in his facilities near his family.
- He views Michael Jordan as the best athlete ever and part of is motivation is to match/exceed him in championships. Jordan is at 6.

If the Pats win in 12 days, Brady's not retiring now. But getting the 7th to beat Jordan, combined with his being near age 45 and his family compromise, that might be the tipping point.

When did he say that about Jordan?

OT but related, just a reminder of this story where Brady and Jordan play a random pick up game in the Bahamas. Imagine walking by and seeing that.

Michael Jordan played pick-up ball with Tom Brady

 

[BobDigital]

I can't tell you about how he would feel but I can tell you about how i would feel in his place.

If I retired when I still had some game left in me I would always think "Did I leave another super bowl on the table?"

As a fan I felt that after forcing JG out Brady 'owed us' another ring. If we don't end up with a championship at some point after the trade we will always question whether it was the right thing to do.

If Brady wins this year it justifies keeping him over Jimmy G IMO. That being said I'm a greedy guy and I want more than 6. I always had the number 7 in my head for Brady. I know it would be over the top but something about single-handedly surpassing the freaking Steelers at the time his career ends would be utterly GOAT like.

I don't know if that is possible anymore. Gronk is retiring probably and I think this will be the last year we see Edelman at this level. This may well be the last shot the team has as the offense may need to seriously retool and that can't be done over night.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

When did he say that about Jordan?

OT but related, just a reminder of this story where Brady and Jordan play a random pick up game in the Bahamas. Imagine walking by and seeing that.

Michael Jordan played pick-up ball with Tom Brady

First part of my Jordan statement is accurate. 2nd part looks to be inference on my part, which based on the full interview isn't exactly correct.

“I was in awe of Michael Jordan,” Brady said in an interview with ESPN, “and I still am in awe of what he was and what he meant. ... He was such an effortless player. He put a lot of effort in, but there's an art and a beauty to the way he played the game. That was a very inspiring thing.”

Tom Brady "in awe of Michael Jordan", trying to be NFL’s first 6-time champion

 

[HailHydra]

He will retire when he goes through the Manning transformation. So far, he's nowhere close to that.

 

[PP2]

One scenario is a 2019 victory tour for Brady, Gronk and Edelman.

This superbowl is the final rodeo for all three, as far as playing together.

 

[VectorPrime]

One scenario is a 2019 victory tour for Brady, Gronk and Edelman.

Even if he wanted to Gronk ain’t coming back unless he agrees to an absurd paycut.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

He will retire when he goes through the Manning transformation. So far, he's nowhere close to that.

You mean this?

Or are you talking about when Brady sends HGH shipments to Giselle?

 

[NashuaPats]

Let Brady retire after Belichick has hoodwinked someone in a trade and we've groomed Trevor Lawrence behind him for a couple of seasons.

I'm not greedy at all.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Ron Grady

No, I meant Brady’s son

 

[Angelpats]

When you think about our high draft picks coming up. This is really the most vulnerable our team will be in the next few years. Reinforcements from IR, maybe flash comes back, the draft, I see us contending for championships.

 

[PP2]

Even if he wanted to Gronk ain’t coming back unless he agrees to an absurd paycut.

He will probably be offered a heavily incentive-based one-year contract, little of which he would realistically achieve unless he miraculously bounced back, health-wise.

 

[mgteich]

Even if he wanted to Gronk ain’t coming back unless he agrees to an absurd paycut.

Yup

As I recall, many here wanted an absurd paycut last year. Many here would want this paycut for Hightower and McCourty also.

 

[Hyped]

Comments:

1.) During final episode of the "Tom vs. Time" documentary last year, Brady said he wanted TWO more.

2.) Brady's oldest son will turn 12 this August. I assume his son will probably start playing high school sports in 3 more years. At that time, Brady will probably want to be in the stands for those Friday night games.

3.) Brady's old man has always said that it would end ugly.

4.) I get a strong feeling that Brady is the kind of guy that if he were to retire 2-3 seasons too early...he will ALWAYS wonder what might have been. I feel that he would rather play it out to the bitter end.

5.) Brady has already confirmed that he plans on playing in 2019 and his contract runs through 2019. So, he is going to suit up for ONE more season at minimum.

6.) Yep, sounds like he's serious about playing to 45....he'll be 42 in 7 months. So, 3 seasons left, IMO.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Brady legit has the rest of the league going through the 5 stages of grief trying to process and deal with his dominance over them. We've now arrived at bargaining.

 

[Snooky97]

Only 2 people count in the Brady retiring question.

1. Brady
2. Giselle

Obviously BB can make a determination on his playing time which could factor into retiring. Speculation doesn't matter as he'll tell BB/RK in advance of his actual retiring and it will be announced after his last game is played. Until then, sit back and enjoy the sustain greatness.

I’m not even sure Giselle has much of a say of it by what I’ve seen. I think the latest was as long as Tom is happy she’s fine with it.

 

[PP2]

Comments:

1.) During final episode of the "Tom vs. Time" documentary last year, Brady said he wanted TWO more.

2.) Brady's oldest son will turn 12 this August. I assume his son will probably start playing high school sports in 3 more years. At that time, Brady will probably want to be in the stands for those Friday night games.

3.) Brady's old man has always said that it would end ugly.

4.) I get a strong feeling that Brady is the kind of guy that if he were to retire 2-3 seasons too early...he will ALWAYS wonder what might have been. I feel that he would rather play it out to the bitter end.

5.) Brady has already confirmed that he plans on playing in 2019 and his contract runs through 2019. So, he is going to suit up for ONE more season at minimum.

6.) Yep, sounds like he's serious about playing to 45....he'll be 42 in 7 months. So, 3 seasons left, IMO.

IIRC, no player for the Patriots has ever entered their final year without having their contract either redone, or traded.

So this summer will tell us a lot about what will happen to Brady, post-2019.

 

[mgteich]

We bring back Brady, one of our best OL's ever, a top FB, a top running game (which should be even better next year. We will add Wynne and Berrios.We will return Allen, Hollister and Izzo at TE.

And yes, we will return Edelman, at a bit lower level of play,
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I just don't see "the serious need to retool" that can't be done overnight.

If Hogan is re-signed, we are in better shape than in last year's off-season.

This may well be the last shot the team has as the offense may need to seriously retool and that can't be done over night.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I keep seeing this storyline from the media that if we win, Brady should retire and ride into the sunset. My question is, why? He hasn’t slowed down all that much, arm strength is not an issue and he’s still clutch. He still seems to enjoy playing the game so why would he retire if he’s still playing championship Calibur football? It worked out well for manning because he was a shell of himself due to his neck surgery but TB ages like a fine wine. He’s said he wants to play until he’s 45 and I really hope that’s what ends up happening.

There has been a phase change in the media and in other NYJFL fan bases.
They suddenly realize that Brady ain't aging normally and resistance is futile.
Therefore, they reluctantly hope or concede he'll win and fantasize that he then rides off into the sunset.
No more Tom Brady Invitational Tournament every Jan-Feb.