Patriots Player Departure Pats trade Sony Michel to LAR

[DropKickFlutie]

If Sony played in every game in 2018 he would have ranked (roughly) 4th in the NFL in rushing. On a per game/snap average Sony was among the more talented RB’s in that size range who could also catch like a WR and who understood complex pass blocking schemes immediately exiting college.

Sony led the 2018 NFL postseason in yards, yards per game, yards per attempt and rushing TD’s… the idea that some scrub could have done that is fan speak.

From 2013-2019 they played in four Super Bowls and won 3 rings, the last time a team did that was the Patriots from 2001-2004. Patriots fans have a distorted view of “success.”

The last 3 rings look at the players, the key guys who were homegrown were from the Reese/O'Brien era. Or gotten externally. The cupboard kept getting bare. Losing Gronk. Edelman. No offensive talent also led Brady to leave.

 

[Triumph]

Mega numbers please.

I dont want to split the jackpot.

 

[jimnance]

I miss Develin.

Me too but Jacob has become a very solid fb. He improves the running game. And hes still getting better.

 

[Triumph]

Surprising that Meyers did not put a bid in for Sony. Etienne will be coming off Lis Franc.

Wonder is BB and Urban are still pals?

 

[Uptown]

Me too but Jacob has become a very solid fb. He improves the running game. And hes still getting better.

True. When Sony was traded to the Rams, I immediately pictured Develin…an actual ram.

 

[Deus Irae]

All of you trying to predict the final roster just had your RB section filled out for you.

 

[Tunescribe]

Even if they can convert those picks to a fourth-rounder they should've gotten more for him.

 

[Ring 6]

Won't go into explaining the concept of value over replacement player to you, will go over your head. The run blocking on that team was incredible, massive running lanes galore. He looked bad the year after with Gronk and Develin gone.

You don’t have to explain anything. You trash players you don’t like and make up excuses.
Michel got the job done. Your tainted opinion of whether someone else would have is useless and only a cudgel in your obsession.

 

[Sicilian]

Even if they can convert those picks to a fourth-rounder they should've gotten more for him.

Doing a quick look back, since 2013 (when Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick, which was AWFUL), the only RB who's gone for more than a 4th rounder was Duke Johnson going from Cleveland to Houston (3rd rounder + a LB). The position (especially for a guy in the last year of his deal) just isn't valued highly in the NFL right now.

 

[Ring 6]

Even if they can convert those picks to a fourth-rounder they should've gotten more for him.

An injury prone RB (the position of all that an unknown is most likely to thrive) on the last year of a contract doesn’t have the value you think they do.
Whether to accept that offer is a question, expecting it to be more isn’t very realistic.

 

[amfootball]

Seems as if the Rams do not play with a cap.

 

[Ring 6]

Doing a quick look back, since 2013 (when Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick, which was AWFUL), the only RB who's gone for more than a 4th rounder was Duke Johnson going from Cleveland to Houston (3rd rounder + a LB). The position (especially for a guy in the last year of his deal) just isn't valued highly in the NFL right now.

Do you have examples of the other ones that were traded? I have a vague memory of people being shocked they went for what they did.

 

[Ring 6]

Seems as if the Rams do not play with a cap.

Michels contract is cheap.

 

[Ring 6]

Maybe....we will see if all 3 Harris, Dre, and Bolden make it. Obviously Harris and Dre are safe just put them on as they are 2 of the 3 normal sized RBs we have as you put it. After Harris I could care less about size more interested in who's better. But we still have plenty of size.

Size equates to playing on early downs.
We need 2 of those. White and Taylor aren’t that, and Bolden is a special teamer who shouldn’t be playing RB.
If either Harris or Stevenson go down, we are very thin. If both do, it’s 2015 all over again.

 

[Rob0729]

I was against trading Michel unless we got something of real value in return. So I am not thrilled with the trade. That said, RB was a spot where the Pats could afford to lose a player or two.

 

[ashley]

 

[Deus Irae]

Seems as if the Rams do not play with a cap.

Unless there was a money change that I've not seen reported, Michel will cost the Patriots almost as much against the cap as he will cost the Rams ($1.27m v. $1.79m). It's a great bargain for a team that's carrying almost $30m in dead money this season.

 

[Mack Herron]

Size equates to playing on early downs.
We need 2 of those. White and Taylor aren’t that, and Bolden is a special teamer who shouldn’t be playing RB.
If either Harris or Stevenson go down, we are very thin. If both do, it’s 2015 all over again.

This is essentially the calculation. We are weaker this year for a benefit next year when we would have lost Sony anyway. Losing two top players would cripple most positions (Smith and Henry, Meyers and Agholor).

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Doing a quick look back, since 2013 (when Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick, which was AWFUL), the only RB who's gone for more than a 4th rounder was Duke Johnson going from Cleveland to Houston (3rd rounder + a LB). The position (especially for a guy in the last year of his deal) just isn't valued highly in the NFL right now.

Making spending a 1st rounder in the first place a bad decision from the get go. Wasn't a bad player just a huge overdraft. Just waiting now for NKeal to get cut so we can all look back at how bad it was with the John Carroll trifecta.

.

 

[borg]

This is essentially the calculation. We are weaker this year for a benefit next year when we would have lost Sony anyway. Losing two top players would cripple most positions (Smith and Henry, Meyers and Agholor).

Hmmmmm....
Wonder if Bill knows he can use draft picks as trading chips to secure new players, maybe just maybe, this summer and fall?