No Gilmore, No Rowe at Practice (Weds) [wk 7 vs Atl injury reports & updates]

[mgteich]

mcclellan isn't on the 53. He needs to practice a couple of weeks. He'll be eligible after the bye.

Does this mean no mcclellin too?

 

[Ring 6]

mcclellan isn't on the 53. He needs to practice a couple of weeks. He'll be eligible after the bye.

That was my question whether this tweet also meant he isn't being added to the 53.
My understanding is that he is eligible to be added now of they chose to.

 

[Jimke]

I would rather have the inexperienced 4th cornerback than be forced to play
Ebner, King, or Richards if another cornerback is injured. I can't imagine not
putting Langi on IR until a spot is needed for McClellin.

 

[Uptown]

Zero drafted corners.
Malcolm Butler, Johnson Bademosi, and Jonathan Jones each Undrafted players.

W.O.W ...Only in NE

 

[Mack Herron]

That was my question whether this tweet also meant he isn't being added to the 53.
My understanding is that he is eligible to be added now of they chose to.

He is not roster eligible. Can practice a couple weeks before you can play.

 

[Ring 6]

He is not roster eligible. Can practice a couple weeks before you can play.

When is the earliest time he can be activated? I thought it was after 6 weeks.
I understand why he isn't being activated but I thought there was a 4 week period starting the day you eligible to practice thay you can be activated.

 

[Mack Herron]

When is the earliest time he can be activated? I thought it was after 6 weeks.
I understand why he isn't being activated but I thought there was a 4 week period starting the day you eligible to practice thay you can be activated.

Denver game is the earliest he can be activated. I think you are right about there being a time window after which he is either activated or reverts to season ending IR. Not sure of the duration.

 

[Ring 6]

Denver game is the earliest he can be activated. I think you are right about there being a time window after which he is either activated or reverts to season ending IR. Not sure of the duration.

Looked it up. Player can return after week 8 can practice after week 6

 

[Mack Herron]

Looked it up. Player can return after week 8 can practice after week 6

This is what I have been saying. Miguel posted a while back:


But once they start practicing, I think they do not have to be activated in 2 weeks. I think they have a few weeks to decide whether or not to activate. Not that this matters much, because teams will generally be eager to get players back.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

It won't be pretty and it sucks. I was hoping to finish 6-2 before the bye. Falcons will be desperate and probably still have the superbowl in their minds.

I had this game at a L to start the year...still do..hopefully they prove me wrong tomorrow night!

 

[AvocadoIceCream]

Id rather have bolden out there being good on 4th down than a 4th corner standing on thr sidelines watching the game.

Probably right.

Idk it just seems like we have a lot em

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

I had this game at a L to start the year...still do..hopefully they prove me wrong tomorrow night!

??? To begin the year the Patriots were considered a 16-0 candidate. Further, with Tom Brady starting at Gillette stadium the Patriots have something like an .800 winning percentage. Why would anyone have marked any home game an L from the onset? It is inexplicable.

Fast forward to week 6: the bloom of the Patriots' 2017 unbeatable rose has faded with 1 ugly loss, a poor performance loss, a less than convincing win, a fair win, a solid win. The pass D has been giving up huge chunks of yards causing a major reevaluation of the 2017 Patriots 'elite' status. Subsequently, this game in Foxboro against the "2016 Falcons" would seem likely to be an L. That 2016 team was a juggernaut and expected to not skip a beat going into 2017. Again fast forward to 2017: The Falcons' 2017 rose is certainly showing some wilting petals as well. 2 unconvincing wins against 2 middling/below average teams, 2 losses against teams that are not considered top tier (including a pretty bad collapse against a QB who is now a JAG), a solid win against an upper/top tier team.

Those are largely facts. And while they do equal a greater uncertainty for Patriots' home wins than recent Patriot teams, anyone dismissing this game as an L has either been living in a cave with only one single source of information (CHB Patriot stories repeated 24/7) or you just need to dig down a bit to find some internal fortitude. The Patriots may struggle to win this game, they may lose, but this is hardly a 'marked for an L' matchup based upon the available data.

 

[dafoe2016]

I know it's a small sample size and it was a game against the Jets, but the defense seemed to play better without Gilmore. It will be interesting to see if that happens again on Sunday.

 

[dafoe2016]

??? To begin the year the Patriots were considered a 16-0 candidate. Further, with Tom Brady starting a game at Gillette stadium the Patriots have something like an .800 winning percentage. Why would anyone have marked any home game an L from the onset? It is inexplicable.

Fast forward to week 6: the bloom of the Patriots' 2017 unbeatable rose has faded with 1 ugly loss, a poor performance loss, a less than convincing win, a fair win, a solid win. The pass D has been giving up huge chunks of yards causing a major reevaluation of the 2017 Patriots 'elite' status. Subsequently, this game in Foxboro against the "2016 Falcons" would seem likely be a L. That team was a juggernaut and expected to not skip a beat going into 2017. Again fast forward to 2017: The Falcons' 2017 rose is certainly showing some wilting petals as well. 2 unconvincing wins against 2 middling/below average teams, 2 losses against teams that are not considered top tier (including a pretty bad collapse against a QB who is now a JAG), a solid win against an upper/top tier team.

Those are largely facts. And while they do equal a greater uncertainty for a Patriots' home win than recent Patriot teams, anyone dismissing this game as an L has either been living in a cave with only one single source of information (CHB Patriot stories repeated 24/7) or you just need to dig down to a bit to find some internal fortitude. The Patriots may struggle to win this game, they may lose, but this is hardly a 'marked for an L' matchup based upon the available data.

We are also six weeks into the season and they still have yet to have a game where they are clicking on all cylinders, where the entire team plays well for four quarters. And they have yet to have a single comfortable win.

 

[mgteich]

That was my question whether this tweet also meant he isn't being added to the 53.
My understanding is that he is eligible to be added now of they chose to.

I believe that he isn't to be added until after 2 weeks of practice; in any case after the bye. This is the week that he is allowed to start practicing.

 

[mgteich]

I know it's a small sample size and it was a game against the Jets, but the defense seemed to play better without Gilmore. It will be interesting to see if that happens again on Sunday.

Comparing the jets and Car or the jets and KC.
I believe that the team would also play better against the jets than against these teams without Brady active. The jets are among the 3 worst teams in the NFL.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

We are also six weeks into the season and they still have yet to have a game where they are clicking on all cylinders, where the entire team plays well for four quarters. And they have yet to have a single comfortable win.

All valid points albeit redundant ones. The point was made/outlined that the Patriots are not playing at their "expected" 2017 level, and they are not (yet?) excelling in all 3 phases within the 60 minutes of a game.
Making additional points to provide extra highlight to the Patriots' 2017 issues does not change the underlying point: the 3-2 Patriots at home marked as an L against a team, Atlanta, that is 3-2 with only a single comfortable win within their own record is not logical/does not add up.

 

[PScottman]

I would rather have the inexperienced 4th cornerback than be forced to play
Ebner, King, or Richards if another cornerback is injured.

They'll have Chung, McCourty and Harmon for coverage assignments.

Just like every other team in the league if they lose two starters of a single position they'd all be screwed and scrambling if they lost another during a subsequent contest. It's only a 53 man roster.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

the 3-2 Patriots at home marked as an L against a team, Atlanta, that is 3-2 with only a single comfortable win within their own record is not logical/does not add up.

In fact it adds up perfectly. The 3-2 Patriots have both of their losses at home. They're down two starting CBs. They've made offenses worse than the 2017 Falcons offense look like worldbeaters. The matchups aren't favorable (especially down those two CBs). While it's not a guaranteed loss there's nothing illogical about picking NE to lose this game.

I for one think it's more likely than not that they do lose. (I think it would have been more likely than not that they'd win if both Rowe and Gilmore were healthy, but even then it would have been no lock.)

 

[NG Pats Fan]

I know it's a small sample size and it was a game against the Jets, but the defense seemed to play better without Gilmore. It will be interesting to see if that happens again on Sunday.

What's your point? We gave Gilmore 40 million guaranteed. He's going nowhere