Bennett doesn't think Brady is GOAT that he has played with?

[JetFan79]

What would anyone have to do for cripes sakes to ever be the greatest? If it can't be Brady then it can't be anybody.

... ha, don't think we're resolving this one today. I mean you're saying the goat has to be Brady when many (even majorities) will say Manning and/or Rodgers are better than Brady. Not even considering earlier generations.

I'm not saying that, because like I said I think ya gotta let some time pass to judge. I just know they're all great.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Bennett amusing must-watch on Brady making pre-snap adjustments - "smooth:"

 

[Tony2046]

Perhaps the solution is to change the spelling of GOAT.

To GOTE.

Instead of Greatest Of All Time, it'll be Greatest Of The Era.

Otherwise how else do ya compare a QB playing in this softened league to Montana or Unitas?

Would any of the QBs playing now do well with Deacon Jones torturing them and say Ronnie Lott demolishing their WRs for even attempting to catch a ball over the middle?

Could Unitas handle making 5 reads in a matter of 3 or 4 seconds and consistently throwing 50+ passes a game and for over 5,000yds a year?

Too damn tough to judge. Perhaps each fan will choose their own goat based on the era of football they like the most. (I'm which case I'm leaning towards Montana.)

Well that's part of the puzzle. You would have to compare the GOTEs to decide who the GOAT is.

Right now you have Brady voted number 1 by NFL players. You have ex great QB's (including those who played in Montana's era) calling Brady the best ever. You have mediots who have trashed Brady calling him the best ever.

So whatever your criteria is and whatever your case is for Montana there is a growing mountain of "experts" disagreeing with you.

Players:
Jim Kelly, Jim Brown, Fran Tarkenton, Boomer Esiason, Troy Aikman, Jeff Saturday, Kurt Warner, Joe Theismann, Terry Bradshaw, etc.. etc...

Media:

Mile High Sports: Denver
Face it Broncos Country, Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all-time | Mile High Sports

PFT: National
Debate over: Tom Brady is the best ever

Kansas City Star: Kansas
Sam Mellinger: Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback, completes greatest Super Bowl comeback

Sportsday: Dallas
New England Patriots QB Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time, and it's not even close | SportsDay

 

[Jackson 2]

... ha, don't think we're resolving this one today. I mean you're saying the goat has to be Brady when many (even majorities) will say Manning and/or Rodgers are better than Brady. Not even considering earlier generations.

I'm not saying that, because like I said I think ya gotta let some time pass to judge. I just know they're all great.

"Majorities" are not saying what you claim, as Tony has documented. Evidence, please, as Tony has provided. Otherwise, move on. You've lost.

 

[FourierSeries]

... ha, don't think we're resolving this one today. I mean you're saying the goat has to be Brady when many (even majorities) will say Manning and/or Rodgers are better than Brady. Not even considering earlier generations.

I'm not saying that, because like I said I think ya gotta let some time pass to judge. I just know they're all great.

You literally just made that up. You won't find many people who will disagree with the claim that Brady is the GOAT.

You already knew this, but you're just attempting to troll. While I can respect that, it doesn't really work when you're a Jets fan on a Patriots board.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

We can just leave the NJ area, including northern greater New Jersey, to believe what they want.

Back in the day it was like, "well, he'll never be much for stats, but that fourth ring does it... Montana's the GOAT."

Except for people in Miami and Denver, everybody agreed. In Miami they were like "no way, Marino owns just about every record in the record book (regular season)."

Brady's got the 5th ring and is going to own every post season record and half the regular season records.

He wins stuff more than anybody.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Ps in case that's confusing to jete fans... to quote a far brighter light,

You play to win the game.

 

[JetFan79]

"Majorities" are not saying what you claim, as Tony has documented. Evidence, please, as Tony has provided. Otherwise, move on. You've lost.

The polls I posted.

 

[JetFan79]

You literally just made that up. You won't find many people who will disagree with the claim that Brady is the GOAT.

You already knew this, but you're just attempting to troll. While I can respect that, it doesn't really work when you're a Jets fan on a Patriots board.

Yup ya got me. Just to troll, I created CBS Sports and then kept quiet for decades, waiting in the weeds to strike. Then when the time was right... I triggered my evil genius plan of polling the nation!

All in an attempt to discredit the Patriots.

In fact, it goes back further. I actually created CBS news back in 1927. The moon landing? JFK shooting? Yup, those were me too. I had to keep ratings up, just so CBS could hang around long enough to see the Pats start winning with the golden boy Tom Brady.

Damn you...

 

[TBR]

"Majorities" are not saying what you claim, as Tony has documented. Evidence, please, as Tony has provided. Otherwise, move on. You've lost.

Exactly.

Argumentum ad populum.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

... ha, don't think we're resolving this one today. I mean you're saying the goat has to be Brady when many (even majorities) will say Manning and/or Rodgers are better than Brady. Not even considering earlier generations.

I'm not saying that, because like I said I think ya gotta let some time pass to judge. I just know they're all great.

huh

 

[Jackson 2]

The polls I posted.

The polls I posted.

LOL, "polls"? In your post #71, you cited ONE (that's singular) poll of 1,338 Americans taken in October of 2015. That's the year Denver won the SB with Manning at QB in February after which he retired. It was also more than a year before Brady won his 5th SB game and 4th SB MVP award. Your "proof" is pathetically embarrassing, particularly when compared with Tony's.

 

[JetFan79]

LOL, "polls"? In your post #71, you cited ONE (that's singular) poll of 1,338 Americans taken in October of 2015. That's the year Denver won the SB with Manning at QB in February after which he retired. It was also more than a year before Brady won his 5th SB game and 4th SB MVP award. Your "proof" is pathetically embarrassing, particularly when compared with Tony's.

Whoops, thought I posted more along with links. Eh, trying to put the posts together on my phone while working can be a pain.

Oh well, just search "Rodgers vs Brady" and similar, and you'll find plenty of opinions on each side.

Again, this is just vs Rodgers. Not even Manning and the previous greats.

Simply stated, nothing is decided. There is not one undisputed goat. Not even close.

 

[Kargetina]

Whoops, thought I posted more along with links. Eh, trying to put the posts together on my phone while working can be a pain.

Oh well, just search "Rodgers vs Brady" and similar, and you'll find plenty of opinions on each side.

Again, this is just vs Rodgers. Not even Manning and the previous greats.

Simply stated, nothing is decided. There is not one undisputed goat. Not even close.

I'm sure if you visit enough Justin Bieber forums, you'll be convinced he's a better musician than Ludwig Van Beethoven.

The third and fourth Transformers films made over a billion dollars each, i guess that makes them great films! On the other hand, Scorsese's highest grossing film, The Wolf of Wall Street, made $392 million Worldwide...which forces us to conclude that Michael Bay is a better director.

What a wonderfully nuanced way of deciding things! I will use random public polls and google search to decide everything from now on!

Just wrote '' 50 Shades of Grey is amazing'' on Google and yes, it's true, and i have the articles to prove it!

 

[JetFan79]

I'm sure if you visit enough Justin Bieber forums, you'll be convinced he's a better musician than Ludwig Van Beethoven.

The third and fourth Transformers films made over a billion dollars each, i guess that makes them great films! On the other hand, Scorsese's highest grossing film, The Wolf of Wall Street, made $392 million Worldwide...which forces us to conclude that Michael Bay is a better director.

What a wonderfully nuanced way of deciding things! I will use random public polls and google search to decide everything from now on!

Just wrote '' 50 Shades of Grey is amazing'' on Google and yes, it's true, and i have the articles to prove it!

I knew I'd eventually get some of you to understand! Welcome aboard.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Giving rival fan polls a lot of weight or the tipping point for you to draw conclusions with is inherintly flawed......especially if they were pre SB 51 and right smack-dab in the middle of the media and NFL campaign to smeer Brady with deflategate misinformation. I'll go with the majority opinion from his peers and sports anylists. Even Stephen A Smith, the mouth piece for the league has admitted he was wrong. It's not even arguable anymore.

 

[aluminum seats]

Whoops, thought I posted more along with links. Eh, trying to put the posts together on my phone while working can be a pain.

Oh well, just search "Rodgers vs Brady" and similar, and you'll find plenty of opinions on each side.

Again, this is just vs Rodgers. Not even Manning and the previous greats.

Simply stated, nothing is decided. There is not one undisputed goat. Not even close.

Come on now, really poor trolling here. You post a poll from years ago, cite it multiple times in additional posts, then say "uh yeah, thought there was more, I'm sure you can find them, google...gotta go..."

Either put in the effort to be a proper troll, or move along. So disappointing.

 

[JetFan79]

Come on now, really poor trolling here. You post a poll from years ago, cite it multiple times in additional posts, then say "uh yeah, thought there was more, I'm sure you can find them, google...gotta go..."

Either put in the effort to be a proper troll, or move along. So disappointing.

Ha, ok ok, when I get some time later or tomorrow I may.

 

[FourierSeries]

Yup ya got me. Just to troll, I created CBS Sports and then kept quiet for decades, waiting in the weeds to strike. Then when the time was right... I triggered my evil genius plan of polling the nation!

All in an attempt to discredit the Patriots.

In fact, it goes back further. I actually created CBS news back in 1927. The moon landing? JFK shooting? Yup, those were me too. I had to keep ratings up, just so CBS could hang around long enough to see the Pats start winning with the golden boy Tom Brady.

Damn you...

So you admit you're just trolling and making **** up.

Glad we cleared that up.

By the way, how many SBs does your team have again?

 

[Tony2046]

@JetFan79 -

Maybe my previous post wasn't convincing enough so I'll post an updated version. Added a few names here and there. I'm sure your opinion overrides theirs but just for fun here you go.

Those who claim Brady as the GOAT.

Players + Coaches:
Jim Kelly, Jim Brown, Fran Tarkenton, Boomer Esiason, Troy Aikman, Jeff Saturday, Kurt Warner, Joe Theismann, Terry Bradshaw, Donovan McNabb, Shannon Sharpe, Michael Robinson, Reggie Wayne, Ike Taylor , Michael Bennett, Michael Irvin, Jim Harbaugh, Nate Burleson, Brian Billick, Mike Ditka, Ron Jaworski, Ryan Clark, David Carr, Howie Long, Steve Mariucci, Marshall Faulk (with an asterisk), Deion Sanders, Brett Favre, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Hines Ward, Darrelle Revis, Barry Sanders, Aaron Rodgers, etc.. etc...

Oh and one more that might be of interest to you:

“No one’s done it better,” says Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Namath. “No one is comparable in dealing with the game, the way it’s changed.”

Media:

Charley Casserly, Adam Schein, Dave Dameshek ,

Speak for yourself: Not only greatest QB but on the mt rushmore of the greatest athlete of all time.
Jason Whitlock, Colin Cowherd


Good Morning Football:


Rich Eisen:


NFL Total Access:



Skip Bayless,



Max (mr. cliff) Kellerman, Stephen A. Smith,
First Take- Does His 5th Super Bowl Win Make Brady The Greatest Of All Time?(2/6/17)

Mile High Sports: Denver
Face it Broncos Country, Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all-time | Mile High Sports

PFT: National
Debate over: Tom Brady is the best ever

Kansas City Star: Kansas
Sam Mellinger: Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback, completes greatest Super Bowl comeback

Sportsday: Dallas
New England Patriots QB Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time, and it's not even close | SportsDay