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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.There's a grown-up thought. Agree.Who sits around upset about other Patriots fan loyalty?
How about we just enjoy the ride and lets the cards fall where they may?
Just sayin......
I love Brady....
I was with Brady from day #1 & I was delighted when Belichick stayed with Brady over Bledsoe.
If I had my way Garoppalo would have been traded before the draft, but that did not happen.
I may not agree with it, but I believe Garoppalo will take over for Brady either after this year or next year.
I didn't decide to take Garoppalo over Brady, but one thing I know for certain.
Bill Belichick usually makes the right decision & I trust his opinion over anyone "including myself" on the Patsfans forum.
I have faith Belichick will make the right decision & I will accept his decision.
If people start booing Brady, you have the right to *****, until then stop complaining about the fans.
If BB cuts Brady, it will almost definitionally be "even if the fans want him." He could be 80, and it would still be "even if fans want him."
This -- and the draft value BB reportedly places on JG -- that makes me think these guys might be on to something.
In BB I trust. I don't know about avocado shakes. LOL
Yet they were loyal to him. Imagine how loyal a fan base should be to the greatest of all time within 4 months of watching him play the best SB e we by a QB to deliver championship #5.
Sure....sure...you can follow whomever you wish but it will be you and your fellow brothers who will march blindly onto the battlefield with Naram-Sin, "King of the four quarters" or in JG's case, " King of the six quarters" only to watch the once great dynasty fall into a world of darkness and game day thread chaos.
Me? Well I'm Scottish and a descendant of the Gaelic clans . We are battle tested and have weathered many of your betrayers in the past. We have followed our great leaders from Wallace to Brady into victory after victory only to watch them betrayed by Robert the Bruce and Robert the Kraft.
We will always stand as brothers but history will divide us into those who followed a proven leader and those who betrayed him for a nugget of hope.
Oh but to the point of you post... Certainly not marching in support of JG, more in support of BB.
I am saying nothing about belichicks decision, which likely will be to stick with Brady until he has nothing left.You're saying Belichick should cut Brady even if the fans want him? That's what happened with Kosar.
Fans saying get rid of Brady one year too early rather than one year too late are disrespectful of what he had done for this team and fan base. I will talk about that when I see it not on a timetable you want. Clear?I love Brady....
I was with Brady from day #1 & I was delighted when Belichick stayed with Brady over Bledsoe.
If I had my way Garoppalo would have been traded before the draft, but that did not happen.
I may not agree with it, but I believe Garoppalo will take over for Brady either after this year or next year.
I didn't decide to take Garoppalo over Brady, but one thing I know for certain.
Bill Belichick usually makes the right decision & I trust his opinion over anyone "including myself" on the Patsfans forum.
I have faith Belichick will make the right decision & I will accept his decision.
If people start booing Brady, you have the right to *****, until then stop complaining about the fans.
Gustaf V could not have more diplomatically neutral if he had tried. Of course "Neutral" becomes somewhat dubious when you're selling iron ore, issuing "rights of passage" permits and wearing a #10 Jersey which matches your JG PJ's.
Holy crap, Gustaf V... LOL, you made me google. Welp, guess I should be glad I'm not Quisling or something.
Look, it's the offseason. Everybody will shut up about this unless God forbid injury factors in once the games start.
But the multi-year outlook inherently includes a moment when the Patriots choose to move on from Brady.
Brady has "willed this team to victory" so many times, and he is so meticulously focused on extending his NFL durability, that it is very likely that he will disagree that it's time to hang them up.
This moment is coming for all of us, whether this year or 5 years from now.
I've been very clear that I think they appear to think highly of JG. I've also been clear that that could have been a head fake. We only see 6 quarters; the Foxborough staff also has a ton of practice looks. I love him as our backup this year.
As our contract-ologists can tell any of us, we could shuffle around money (AKA lose cap space, present and future,) and make the money work to keep them both for maybe 1 year. So, whether now or at that point, there's a possible decision coming regarding this specific configuration of QBs.
And YES I'm neutral! I don't make these calls. The guy who's proven himself perhaps the best maker-of-such-calls in the league is making this call.
Brady's the ultimate force multiplier. Not the consistent stat leader physical freak in every category, just the winner a lot. (And by the way, he's proven himself capable of competing in every category at the top level, and kicking everybody's butt in terms of indicators like interceptions/accuracy/speed of release.)
The value of Brady is he can do all that without some kind of all-star cast around him.
Nobody in his right mind roots for losing TFB. But I can't go full-on "Dear Leader" with him either.
That's why I keep saying I'm glad it's not my decision, whether now or in 2022 or 2027 when he's 50 or whatever. Unless he stinks up the joint to the level of an 8-8 season, I don't see myself saying "No doubt about it, it's time."
So pardon me my doubt, when what we are talking about is a comparison of uncertainties.
3 months and a week left... LOL
SF is a perfect fit if it comes to it. Get him the hell out of the conference, never mind the division. You can have as amicable a parting as you want, it'll still be a kick in the sac to him. Then he'll come back for his HOF induction ceremony. If SF plays AT NE, the crowd might even not root for the home team (I haven't checked the head-to-head schedule rotation by division, please forgive me...)
Brady transcends... but transcending reason does not strike me as the style of any GM or coach worth his salt in the NFL. BB is worth his salt. The incentive to continue with Brady continues to diminish despite his accomplishments, because there is what pension actuaries call a "charge for the passage of time."
Brady ain't havin' that. I think that at some point, he will end up playing in another uniform. My perfect ending? We have a slight dip to say 10-6 for one year, so it's not really a SB year, then we bounce back to the 14-2 level. Meanwhile TFB gets himself a ring in another uniform and then falls off the cliff.... Because in 2015, even his "buddy" Bledsoe was saying how great Paymeaton was, because he did it with 2 different teams, and he is the system (as opposed to TFB, who works within 1 system). Well, we're into GOAT territory now by acclamation/voice vote, you don't even need to count the votes. Everybody else is a distant second (which by the way goes to Montana, thank you very much).
Am I rooting for that? Can't bring myself to do so. But that seems most likely to be the outcome (TFB playing elsewhere, not a SB win w/SF).
Now, will I name his replacement and the year that it happens? Hell no. I don't know. Anybody here who claims they do are full of it. No man knoweth the hour or the day blah blah blah.
Will I say that JG shows promise? Sure. So would most NFL coaches/GMs.
I could construct an argument from recent moves. The loading up on defense. The reported draft pick demands BB linked to JG. I don't really want any of that to be true, so I won't play that game.
I'll just say I want to know what I don't, and the future remains exactly as it was at the start of this novel... an unknown.
Just so you know I was just having fun with your posts. I don't mind your position at all. My position is that if Brady continues to play at an elite level he will remain the starting QB otherwise it's possibly forfeiting Super Bowl runs. A Super Bowl run during the Brady's last two or however many years is worth the same, if not more dynasty/legacy wise, as a SB run under JG except we don't know if JG can get them that far.
But yeah, I don't know the future either. I would rather Brady played his last game as a Patriot and endure an 8-8 schedule than watch him get traded. That's just me but I also know BB would never knowingly let that happen which I understand as well.
I think Brady traded to the Texans would be dangerous and could result in a deep playoff run. A Texans Pats AFCCG would be brutal.
Btw: While in Asia I worked under a Swedish guy and the other US service guys and I would give him **** every time he used the word "neutral" no matter the context. hahaha "You must put the car in neutral" "What is that Peter?.... is that slightly in first or almost in second?"
A good question to ask is this: if
The goal is to maximize championships while Brady is here, why would the Patriots ever do anything with anything other than the short term in mind? In other words, why wouldn't they always be in GFIN mode?
The fact that they live in both the short term AND the long term is evidence that they are either planning for success beyond Tom Brady, or they think that Brady will be here a long time still.
probably because the goal is not 'to maximize championships while Brady is here'
....which, to the shock of some around here, may include the possibility of letting Brady go even if he has a SUPER BOWL or two left, if by doing so it gives them the best chance at having another great QB to replace him. (obviously this depends on whether they think that JG is that guy)
And that thinking along these lines is not unappreciative of, or disrespectful towards, Brady.
I realize that some people around here can't possibly imagine how this could be.
I would agree. Which is why it's entirely possible that they're thinking about preparing best for life after Brady, which, to the shock of some around here, may include the possibility of letting Brady go even if he has a good year or two left, if by doing so it gives them the best chance at having another great QB to replace him. (obviously this depends on whether they think that JG is that guy)
And that thinking along these lines is not unappreciative of, or disrespectful towards, Brady.
I realize that some people around here can't possibly imagine how this could be.
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