Kitchens's comedy of errors @ Pats, all-22 rewatch thread

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Let's have a bit of comedy relief on this wet Monday morning:

 

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Curran does a decent job of describing the vast gap between BB and Kitchens when it comes to coaching their respective teams:

A million little details add up to 300

 

[Wordsmyth]

Rewatching Kitchen's utter cluelessness now.

 

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[luuked]

Let's have a bit of comedy relief on this wet Monday morning:

I think this play is supposed to pay off in 4 years when the teams meet again in the regular season. Geniuses like Kitchens plant those seeds with the BIG picture in mind.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

dumb challenges, he needs glasses

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I don't have the A-22 or even gifs of the play, but I noticed on several of the Browns big runs, Patriots edge players were crashing down instead of setting the outside edge to prevent the lane. Wise and Van Noy each had a few plays like that, which seemed odd since they're usually pretty good about maintaining discipline. Aside from the missed tackles, the sloppy oversight of gap responsibility was my biggest takeaway from the relatively poor run defense -- and that seems fixable going forward.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Let's have a bit of comedy relief on this wet Monday morning:

I posted this yesterday and some posters were confused why this was a dumb decision. Tony Romo was chuckling over that.

 

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A bit of head-scratching Kitchensism:

“I don’t coach penalties. I’m not answering questions about penalties,” the “NFL head coach” said. “I’ve never once, in 20 years of coaching, coached somebody to take a penalty. Except in a situation, where it would help you clock-wise, clock management-wise. So, I don’t know, I don’t know.”

His team leads the league with 70 penalities through 7 games. And that's just accepted penalties.

 

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I posted this yesterday and some posters where confused why this was a dumb decision. Tony Romo was chuckling over that.

His response after the game is the stuff of legends:

“I didn’t want to use the timeout and I wanted to go for it,” Kitchens said of the intentional delay of game penalty. “We had half of our guys running off, half of our guys running on and I wasn’t giving up right then by punting the ball to them. The only chance that we had was to convert for a [first] down and then we didn’t. … I was still trying to win the game.”

The man later settled for a FG instead of going for it on 4th, while down three scores.

 

[Drewski]

dumb challenges, he needs glasses

I made the below during the game while talking with my BiL.

 

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[luuked]

I mean the first two plays here sum up that the issues on offense remain a marriage of execution issues on the OL and the other SKILL players. Often one of the two groups gets their execution together for the other to be the let down like on some snaps where Brady seemed to have a lot of time but nobody came open (or someone slipped).

When both do everything falls into place like you would imagine.

 

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Only a matter of time:

 

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[203Pat]

He’s gotta end up a one and done. It’s so obvious he’s in over his head and to be fair he was only a coordinator in the league for what, half a season? I didn’t hate the hire since it would keep the continuity and build off of what he and Baker had the end of last season. I also didn’t hate when the Bucs canned Lovie Smith to keep Koetter in place to keep the continuity with Jameis. I guess I should start to hate hiring a guy who was there but not ready.

 

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Can anyone tell whether they were giving Beckham extra attention like they did Tyreke Hill in the AFCC? Given Beckham's near no-show and the great amount of rushing yards given up, that would make sense.

 

[neuronet]

Can anyone tell whether they were giving Beckham extra attention like they did Tyreke Hill in the AFCC? Given Beckham's near no-show and the great amount of rushing yards given up, that would make nse.

They used the Gilly Lock on obj.