Pats @ Bengals all-22 rewatch thread

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Perry: How Gilmore's preparation led to pair of INTs

 

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What I like about this particular TD is how Harry has learned to never quit on a route. Keep creating separation- because you just never know. Brady is a master at buying time and fitting balls into tight windows.

 

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Anyone have the Harry catch where he laid out for it, but was called back for penalty?

 

[BelizePats]

What I like about this particular TD is how Harry has learned to never quit on a route. Keep creating separation- because you just never know. Brady is a master at buying time and fitting balls into tight windows.

This is a really good point. And Harry gets rewarded for doing so in the form of a TD. It's a lesson he should not forget.

 

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Question for anyone who can see it (or just might know the philosophy in general):

On at least one of Brady's sacks, it seemed like he dropped VERY deep, and the defender (Dunlap I think?) just kept pushing upfield past Cannon for an "easy" sack. My question is, when that happens, which is the likely culprit:

1) Was Cannon doing the right thing funneling his man deep, but pressure up the middle prevented Brady from feeling like he could step up? We've seen that a LOT over the years, where OT's let the rushers go wide and deep because they know Brady is going to step up.

2) Was Cannon beat, because even if his goal was to funnel out wide, it seemed to happen too fast for Brady to react?

3) And this could be in addition to either of the first two: Is calling for a play that requires that deep a drop a GOOD idea for this team right now, given the up and down performance of the OL? It just felt like Brady kept going backwards, and I have a hard time seeing Cannon (right or wrong) being able to sustain a block on a good pass rusher over that kind of distance.

If there's a breakdown on that play, I'd be very interested in seeing it.

 

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I am interested in knowing how and why they were gashing us with the run plays in the first quarter. I know a couple were due to missed tackles, but how did we slow it down significantly in the subsequent quarters. I saw Butler's snap count go up considerably.

 

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I am interested in knowing how and why they were gushing us with the run plays in the first quarter. I know a couple were due to missed tackles, but how did we slow it down significantly in the subsequent quarters. I saw Butler's snap count go up considerably.

Gashing?

Basically underestimating just how fast Mixon was, and how strong he really is- he basically breaks every first tackle. One of our defender would tackle him and the rest just stand around, but after a while they realized that they all had to pile on him to take him down.

In the 2nd half we saw a lot more swarming tackles.

 

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Anyone have the Harry catch where he laid out for it, but was called back for penalty?

Not A-22, but the best I can do on short notice. Better release at the line (no chopping his feet trying to fool the DB) and a great finish after tracking the ball. I want to see more of this.

 

[juny]

Anyone have the Harry catch where he laid out for it, but was called back for penalty?

edit: reamer just beat me to it

 

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Thanks!

 

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Question for anyone who can see it (or just might know the philosophy in general):

On at least one of Brady's sacks, it seemed like he dropped VERY deep, and the defender (Dunlap I think?) just kept pushing upfield past Cannon for an "easy" sack. My question is, when that happens, which is the likely culprit:

1) Was Cannon doing the right thing funneling his man deep, but pressure up the middle prevented Brady from feeling like he could step up? We've seen that a LOT over the years, where OT's let the rushers go wide and deep because they know Brady is going to step up.

2) Was Cannon beat, because even if his goal was to funnel out wide, it seemed to happen too fast for Brady to react?

3) And this could be in addition to either of the first two: Is calling for a play that requires that deep a drop a GOOD idea for this team right now, given the up and down performance of the OL? It just felt like Brady kept going backwards, and I have a hard time seeing Cannon (right or wrong) being able to sustain a block on a good pass rusher over that kind of distance.

If there's a breakdown on that play, I'd be very interested in seeing it.

Hopefully someone can put this on GIFY so we can look at it.

 

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