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Elliott is getting the Brady treatment in his appeal hearing.....

Henderson refuses to require Tiffany Thompson’s presence at Elliott appeal hearing

Just when you think that the NFL can not be more tone deaf, or unfair...

So they are going to suspend Elliott, without as much as a criminal arrest, let alone conviction, and now they see no reason to give him the basic right to confront his accuser!!! There was this guy, James Madison, he wrote this pretty important thing a while back, in which he laid out the basic rights all Americans have, and I'm pretty sure the right to face your accuser was one of them.

He may very well have assaulted her, but they did not place her under oath, she did not sit for a deposition and you are going to just take her word and not let Elliott question his accuser?

This is officially a travesty of justice. Now I hope Jerrah goes balls to the walls against the NFL. I can't see how any actual Judge would let this stand, then again, I never thought two idots sitting in NYC would overturn the Brady ruling.

In the immortal words of Johnny Cash...
I hear a train a coming, its rolling round the bend......Elliott is in for a screwing, and it looks like he isn't even going to get dinner first.
 
I have no love for how the NFL is run, but quoting articles from the constitution is irrelevant. This isn't a court of law. It's a collectively bargained agreement between the NFL and PA that states the NFL can basically do whatever it wants in regards to player discipline. It will probably lead to a strike in 2020, but no one's civil rights are being trampled here.
 
We have already worked out that Goodell is the law as it says so in the CBA. They may need to work on that on the next one, but Zeke is going to have to suck it up.
 
If the league finds elliot not guilty on appeal, there will be a firestorm in the media. The NFL screwed ray rice up and this is their chance to "make things right." Elliot is good as gone for the next 6 games.
 
1. Don't care after Deflategate
2 (rhetorical question). What is PTSD?
 
F* Jerry Jones, that's all I gotta say about the topic, that scumbag deserves this! I hate the NFL commish too, just happy that the Cowboys getting karma back for all that S*t talk about deflategate.
 
I have no love for how the NFL is run, but quoting articles from the constitution is irrelevant. This isn't a court of law. It's a collectively bargained agreement between the NFL and PA that states the NFL can basically do whatever it wants in regards to player discipline. It will probably lead to a strike in 2020, but no one's civil rights are being trampled here.
Doubt it leads to a strike, they won't push all their chips in to get a fairer CBA, they'll use it for money.
 
Eh, if he were really getting the Brady treatment, Goodell himself would be hearing the appeal instead of his stooge Henderson. There's always the (remote) chance that Elliot can convince Henderson to not be Goodell's stooge. With Goodell the outcome was 100% predetermined.
 
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The Constitution has no bearing here. I'm not going to get worked up because a private institution isn't going to force an allegedly abused women to show up and get dragged by her alleged abuser's lawyer. **** like that is why so many abused women never come forward in the first place.
 
The evidence against him is set out in this letter:

https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/ee-discipline-letter-final-8-11-17.pdf

Looks like she was not completely truthful with the police, which very likely played into their decision not to charge him. But the evidence set out in this letter seems a hell of a lot more credible than their trumped-up charges against Brady.

The League also had evidence that was not available to the police. Full story here:

Ezekiel Elliott suspension: An inside look at the NFL’s investigation and punishment decision
 
Henderson refuses to require Tiffany Thompson’s presence at Elliott appeal hearing

Just when you think that the NFL can not be more tone deaf, or unfair...

So they are going to suspend Elliott, without as much as a criminal arrest, let alone conviction, and now they see no reason to give him the basic right to confront his accuser!!! There was this guy, James Madison, he wrote this pretty important thing a while back, in which he laid out the basic rights all Americans have, and I'm pretty sure the right to face your accuser was one of them.

He may very well have assaulted her, but they did not place her under oath, she did not sit for a deposition and you are going to just take her word and not let Elliott question his accuser?

This is officially a travesty of justice. Now I hope Jerrah goes balls to the walls against the NFL. I can't see how any actual Judge would let this stand, then again, I never thought two idots sitting in NYC would overturn the Brady ruling.

In the immortal words of Johnny Cash...
I hear a train a coming, its rolling round the bend......Elliott is in for a screwing, and it looks like he isn't even going to get dinner first.

There are two separate questions here: what is legal and what is fair.

I agree with you that this is unfair, but, unfortunately, as we saw with the Brady case, this is probably 100% legal.
 
Henderson refuses to require Tiffany Thompson’s presence at Elliott appeal hearing

Just when you think that the NFL can not be more tone deaf, or unfair...

So they are going to suspend Elliott, without as much as a criminal arrest, let alone conviction, and now they see no reason to give him the basic right to confront his accuser!!! There was this guy, James Madison, he wrote this pretty important thing a while back, in which he laid out the basic rights all Americans have, and I'm pretty sure the right to face your accuser was one of them.

He may very well have assaulted her, but they did not place her under oath, she did not sit for a deposition and you are going to just take her word and not let Elliott question his accuser?

This is officially a travesty of justice. Now I hope Jerrah goes balls to the walls against the NFL. I can't see how any actual Judge would let this stand, then again, I never thought two idots sitting in NYC would overturn the Brady ruling.

In the immortal words of Johnny Cash...
I hear a train a coming, its rolling round the bend......Elliott is in for a screwing, and it looks like he isn't even going to get dinner first.

1 key difference is the league was the accuser with Brady. So he got to face his accuser.

With Elliot the accuser in the act that caused the suspension isn't the league, it is outside of it. That difference could definitely help him in the appeals process.
 
I am in the "I don't give a ****" group of Pat's fans. Player's have no rights when it comes to this kind of thing, just glad it's not one of our players being attacked unjustly by the NFL this time. Jerry, Goodell is doing a great job according to you, Zeke should just take the punishment. Like the Cowboys and the rest of the NFL wanted Brady to do.
 


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