Top 5 As Usual Or One Of The Worst in 20 Years?

[mgteich]

Do we have a top 5 passing team as usual, or one of the worst in 20 years? IMHO, choose our backup gameday OL's and this is our usual top offense.

OFFENSE (23)
QB: Brady, Hoyer
WR: Edelman, Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson
TE: Gronkowski, Allen, Hollister
RB: White, Bulkhead, Michel, Hill
FB: Develin
OL: Brown, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon, open, open
ST: Slater, Bolden
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[FreeTedWilliams]

If Michel is healthy, he will be ROY.

I think because he hasn't been playing people are forgetting about how good he is. He has talent, unlike Brady has ever had, aside from the Moss years.

 

[farn]

If they use the RBs in the passing game, they should have plenty of yards.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I don’t think it will be any different from any other year.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

If Michel is healthy, he will be ROY.

I'd go with "He'll get votes for OROY," but I can't see him winning unless all the rookie QBs fizzle out.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

If they use the RBs in the passing game, they should have plenty of yards.

If healthy he's Kamara w a lil more power. He's a bull. Dude has to get/stay healthy.

 

[captain stone]

Worst since 2006.

 

[Jangles]

If Michel is healthy, he will be ROY.

I think because he hasn't been playing people are forgetting about how good he is. He has talent, unlike Brady has ever had, aside from the Moss years.

Bold statement

I’ll have what he’s having

 

[SammyBlueCat]

The sky is the limit

 

[supafly]

I’ll go top 10, not necessarily top 5. Either way, far from one of the worst in 20 yrs.

 

[oceansizer]

Do we have a top 5 passing team as usual, or one of the worst in 20 years? IMHO, choose our backup gameday OL's and this is our usual top offense.

OFFENSE (23)
QB: Brady, Hoyer
WR: Edelman, Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson
TE: Gronkowski, Allen, Hollister
RB: White, Bulkhead, Michel, Hill
FB: Develin
OL: Brown, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon, open, open
ST: Slater, Bolden
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If players mentioned by you stay healthy undoubtedly we will be top 5 offense of the league.

 

[Deus Irae]

According to Pro-football-reference.com,

2013 was the league's #3 scoring offense. It was #2 in first downs made. It was #4 in scoring percentage. It was #7 in yards. It was #7 in passing attempt,s and #10 in passing yards.

2013 New England Patriots Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com


Yet we can all accept that 2013 was a down year for the passing game. So what metric are we using that doesn't show the perils of focusing on rankings when determining likely quality?

 

[DarrylS]

WTF a positive thread about the New England Patriots that has confidence in this team?? That isn't supposed to happen...

Don't let sportstalk radio know about this type of thing, they are too busy chasing Guerrero conspiracies... inquiring minds gotta find an conspiracy, any conspiracy will do...

 

[RobertWeathers]

Do we have a top 5 passing team as usual, or one of the worst in 20 years? IMHO, choose our backup gameday OL's and this is our usual top offense.

OFFENSE (23)
QB: Brady, Hoyer
WR: Edelman, Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson
TE: Gronkowski, Allen, Hollister
RB: White, Bulkhead, Michel, Hill
FB: Develin
OL: Brown, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon, open, open
ST: Slater, Bolden
================

I just bolded the reasons why they are pumping 27-30 ppg in 2018.

The questions are on defense and PR. Not offense.

 

[mcmurtry86]

Average by league standards, bad by Brady offense standards

Will be a struggle at times and their inconsistency will be maddening. No depth at WR and I don't buy Edelman/Gronkowski staying healthy until January

 

[Ring 6]

Average by league standards, bad by Brady offense standards

Will be a struggle at times and their inconsistency will be maddening. No depth at WR and I don't buy Edelman/Gronkowski staying healthy until January

You think this offense will be average, ie 15 other offenses will be better? Really? You must be buying into Kellermans cliff.

 

[mcmurtry86]

You think this offense will be average, ie 15 other offenses will be better? Really? You must be buying into Kellermans cliff.

I think Brady will be great throwing the ball but I don't trust his OL to keep him clean and the receiving group is awfully thin. Couple that with playing a number of tough defenses and it's easy to see this offense in the 10-16 range rather than top 5

They'll rack up points against a few bad teams but against good teams they will struggle, especially if/when Edelman and Gronk are hurt

 

[captain stone]

I’ll go top 10, not necessarily top 5.

As would I. Brady & Gronkowski (IF healthy) alone guarantee a top-10 passing offense.

Either way, far from one of the worst in 20 yrs.

Yeah I wouldn't go back as far as 20 years either, just 12 years.

 

[Kontradiction]

Brady is still here so the offense should be top 5-10.

 

[Ring 6]

I think Brady will be great throwing the ball but I don't trust his OL to keep him clean and the receiving group is awfully thin. Couple that with playing a number of tough defenses and it's easy to see this offense in the 10-16 range rather than top 5

Gronk
Edelman
Hogan
White
Patterson
Dorsett
Michel
That is not thin. The top 4 WRs can play. We never use wr5 so why does it matter that we don’t have one?
What top defenses? Our schedule is no more loaded with good defensive opponents than anyone else, probably less because of our division.
Other than jville and Minnesota where do you see top defenses on our schedule.
There is no way in hell there are 10 better offenses.
The ol has 1 change.

They'll rack up points against a few bad teams but against good teams they will struggle, especially if/when Edelman and Gronk are hurt

So 10-15 other teams will whoop good teams and stay healthy?
It Tom Brady.