Re-watch Thread NE @ NYJ

[long distance]

I wonder if Van Noy played that wrong. Both he and Richards initially cover the TE. IF Van Noy had rushed the O line guy would not have pulled to block MB. I guess it could have been by design as well.

Just re-watched 1st Q. Most missed assignments, miscommunications were on line backing units (plenty of personnel changes there as well throughout the Q). Slants, TE, RB coverages and middle of the field responsibilities look like the biggest liability of this D and main area for improvement.

We can cry about a solid cover LB and some speed all we want but there's still plenty of space for improvement with this group(s)..

Hopefully we can focus re-watching some of this..

 

[NE-VT]

Looks like McCourty had loose coverage. If the blitz had worked McCown would not have had enough time to get that pass off. Good play by the O lineman picking that up.

Chung maybe should have stayed in the middle of the field as well. He might be drifting to far toward Flowers' area.

As a side not, PFF has a hard job assigning DB/LB pass coverage grades. I know they have a "no grade" mark when they feel they cannot accurately discern coverage responsibilities. That "no grade" is probably massively underused however.

We don't know if McCourty expected inside help, and we don't know if he was wrong to expect it.

 

[Tony2046]

Re Protecting Brady.





BB must have gotten a call from Grandma Brady.

 

[Kontradiction]

Both Richards and Flowers are in outside shallow zones, so my pre-all22 idea that Richards might be responsible was wrong. It is hard to blame McCourty much on this one however; pre snap he was a second deep safety, and had to rush over to the area vacated by Butler. The receiver's slant route cuts across his momentum getting to that area of the field. Not sure if @KontradictioN is correct that Harmon was deeper than expected, it might have been nice for him to dropped back less given it was a 4th and 12.



You have to wonder if this route was a sight adjustment by the Jets. If they see the corner blitz they run a slant route, knowing that the safety will not be able to get there in time.

He was expecting someone underneath. You can tell as he squats on a potential out back to the sideline to keep Anderson in bounds before he realizes that nobody is there and has to take off again. My guesses are Harmon or Richards and given that Harmon seems to be playing way too deep for what transpired on the play, my money would be on him.

 

[long distance]

As said before (or in another thread) Branch seems to have had a nice bounce back this game (similar to Sheard last year after benching) so it looks like uncle Phil might still be in play for this season and can find some motivation/hunger (despite already getting - probably his last - guaranteed money).

I concentrated on him a bit in my quick 1st Q re-watch and was happy to see his improved effort. He is the biggest single man reserve (pun not intended) for improvement of front 7 so if he can build on that and come close to last yrs form that would be huge.

Here one good example:


Remember how he was easily pushed around in KC, HOU, CAR games?

 

[Tony2046]

Re Protecting Brady. (I'm not sure how I'm going to display this yet. Time constraints at the moment and unsure of proper format. Youtube allows a lot of plays in sequence whereas I like the Gfycat but is only good for one play at a time.)

I've just went through the 1st half focussing on the Oline. I want to say that they looked great but to put that into context the Jets D line ranks at the bottom in the league in pass rush according to Football Outsiders. Nevertheless they looked very good in the first half.

Oddly the Jets D line ranks 12th in Run and 31st in Pass. Their Team defense ranks 21st overall. (18th in Pass and 25th in Rush)

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2017 DEFENSIVE LINES

But IMO, They absolutely went into that game focused on protecting Brady.

1. Six O linemen.
2. Hard chips from the RB's coming out of the back. (Much harder than I've seen in the past)
3. Two TE sets or A TE and an extra Linemen (Waddle) or a TE and FB +RB.

Have to say that the Jets Secondary played well. But the result of having extra protection is less targets.

Overall I like what the Patriots were doing on offense and hope they continue to develop it. I.e passing from heavy run formations, running more (I don't think they ran enough last game), Using hard chips and more 2 TE sets for the extra protection + extra pass targets.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Re Protecting Brady. (I'm not sure how I'm going to display this yet. Time constraints at the moment and unsure of proper format. Youtube allows a lot of plays in sequence whereas I like the Gfycat but is only good for one play at a time.)

Try Streamable. You can cut up to a 2 minute segment from a video. I find it faster than Gfycat.

Streamable - video for publishers

 

[Tony2046]

Try Streamable. You can cut up to a 2 minute segment from a video. I find it faster than Gfycat.

Streamable - video for publishers

Thanks. I'll try it. I cut out the down and distance stuff from the video to save space.

 

[SalemPats]

That was a tight 2 x 2, not a bunch set. A bunch set will typically have 3 receivers (TE's included) all within 3-5 of EMOL. A tight trips, usually in triangle formation, is the most common.

I meant to say if they did a bunch set

 

[Mike the Brit]

Question for the analysts. Where were they lining up Hightower? Was it later in the game that they moved him to be an edge rusher or was it something they did all through?

 

[Tony2046]

Re Protecting Brady.

Thanks @reamer for the Streamable suggestion.

I loaded most of the 1st qtr offensive snaps from the end zone view to focus on the Offensive line performance.

(Let me know what you think of this video format.)

Things to notice:

1. Dion Lewis's quick movements in the pocket.
2. The use of Waddle in both pass and run plays. He does well in pass and ok in run. (only a few plays so not a critique)
3. The use of 6 Linemen. Extra one being Waddle. They move Solder to the right TE position.
4. The use of various personnel. 12 and 21 specifically.
5. White's blocking.
6. How Devlin is just a Bulldozer of a FB. The guy is such an asset. During a Lewis run Devlin helps carry him a few extra yards.
7. The difference between Gillislee and Lewis's running styles. Both effective.
8. And Finally, the Time and protection Brady had in the pocket.

 

[long distance]

Re Protecting Brady.

Thanks @reamer for the Streamable suggestion.

I loaded most of the 1st qtr offensive snaps from the end zone view to focus on the Offensive line performance.

(Let me know what you think of this video format.)

Things to notice:

1. Dion Lewis's quick movements in the pocket.
2. The use of Waddle in both pass and run plays. He does well in pass and ok in run. (only a few plays so not a critique)
3. The use of 6 Linemen. Extra one being Waddle. They move Solder to the right TE position.
4. The use of various personnel. 12 and 21 specifically.
5. White's blocking.
6. How Devlin is just a Bulldozer of a FB. The guy is such an asset. During a Lewis run Devlin helps carry him a few extra yards.
7. The difference between Gillislee and Lewis's running styles. Both effective.
8. And Finally, the Time and protection Brady had in the pocket.

Great job! Thanks, Tony!
Great angle, pic quality..

Amazing White's awareness in the pocket at 1:05 as well..

 

[Tony2046]

Great job! Thanks, Tony!
Great angle, pic quality..

Amazing White's awareness in the pocket at 1:05 as well..

He does a great job with pass protection. Not shown in the video but he chipped the hell out of a DE on his way out of the backfield. If I get time I'll post it.

 

[long distance]

 

[luuked]

Re Protecting Brady.





BB must have gotten a call from Grandma Brady.

Well, that explains the Waddle sightings. Thanks @Tony2046

I guess I missed Solder due to the angle of the broadcasting cameras when it was happening live.

 

[BradyFTW!]

If Gilmore was healthy, I would've expected him to be used in that role because he's more of a physical match to Anderson, whose skill-set basically consists of being tall and running fast. But with Gilmore and Rowe out, the choices were to either go with a corner who was undersized for the job or go with a corner who lacks real cornerback skills (Bademosi). That made Butler the clear call IMO, although it was also a bit of a mismatch in Anderson's favor purely on a size/speed basis, as we saw early. Probably why the Jets kept trying to exploit Butler early.

 

[BradyFTW!]

As said before (or in another thread) Branch seems to have had a nice bounce back this game (similar to Sheard last year after benching) so it looks like uncle Phil might still be in play for this season and can find some motivation/hunger (despite already getting - probably his last - guaranteed money).

I concentrated on him a bit in my quick 1st Q re-watch and was happy to see his improved effort. He is the biggest single man reserve (pun not intended) for improvement of front 7 so if he can build on that and come close to last yrs form that would be huge.

Here one good example:


Remember how he was easily pushed around in KC, HOU, CAR games?

There was clearly something wrong prior to this game, and this game was definitely an improvement (though he's still not back to where we need him, he's at least trending in the right direction for the moment). I wonder if it was a heath issue or a conditioning issue.

 

[mgcolby]

Looks like McCourty had loose coverage. If the blitz had worked McCown would not have had enough time to get that pass off. Good play by the O lineman picking that up.

Obviously they blitzed Butler, then KVN faked a zone drop, which probably served as a tight quick slant stopper and then he ran a delayed go. Badamosi (sp?) drops to deep quarter right, Harmon drops to deep quarter right center, ?? (eyes can't make out the number, deep safety) rolls to deep quarter left center and McCourtey drops to deep quarter left. Flowers drops intermediate right, Chung has intermediate right center and Richards has intermediate left center. Can't really lay fault on anyone (especially without knowing the call), because Richards instantly turns towards the inside slot on the left and Chung to the right. McCourtey establishes outside leverage and the Jets receiver runs a post/sail rout over the middle of the zone, which was wide open. Looks like they played the defense called and the Jets found the soft spot in the zone. It happens.

 

[NE-VT]

I found an interesting breakdown of a few "jet sweep" play variations from this weekends' games. A couple are from the MIA/ATL game, and that the Jets ran. In the case of the Jets play, the pre-snap motion and threat of a end around successfully slowed the backside LB and the safety.

Pass 96 Split Zone Fake Reverse Left X post U Sail Marvin Hall TD + Pass 96 Split Zone Fake Reverse Right Bengal Jarvis Landry TD vs Falcons • r/falcons

edit: I could not get the imgur link to work, so I posted the reddit thread I found it in.

 

[long distance]

If Gilmore was healthy, I would've expected him to be used in that role because he's more of a physical match to Anderson, whose skill-set basically consists of being tall and running fast. But with Gilmore and Rowe out, the choices were to either go with a corner who was undersized for the job or go with a corner who lacks real cornerback skills (Bademosi). That made Butler the clear call IMO, although it was also a bit of a mismatch in Anderson's favor purely on a size/speed basis, as we saw early. Probably why the Jets kept trying to exploit Butler early.

Would you care to explain - or since we are in the re-watch thread, illustrate - the “lack of real cornerback skills“ of Bademosi?