Pats need a reboot or no?

[mosslost]

Pats need a reboot or no?

>>Days ago you were saying the rest of this season is a cakewalk. Now this? You need a boot in the hind quarters. @Tunescribe

Bring it

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Pats need a healthy OL and Gronk in order to reestablish the run game/balanced offense.

Defense is what it is. Next years draft is good defensively. Defensive reboot begins next April.

 

[mcmurtry86]

Not a reboot but a definite retool at multiple positions. I expect a busy offseason. Hopefully one which isn’t an abject failure like this past offseason

 

[mcmurtry86]

Pats need a healthy OL and Gronk in order to reestablish the run game/balanced offense.

Defense is what it is. Next years draft is good defensively. Defensive reboot begins next April.

The “defensive reboot begins in April” was the common wisdom around here last spring and didn’t happen

I don’t expect much from Gronk going forward. He seems to be at the end in terms of being a really good TE. Looks to be in the “good player who can have one or two big games” phase of his career. I hope he retires at the end of the year and his money can be reallocated. I love the guy’s contributions and he’s the GOAT IMO but he’s taking up way too much cap for what you get from him.

 

[jimnance]

Not sure. Maybe you should make a poll for it?

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

The “defensive reboot begins in April” was the common wisdom around here last spring and didn’t happen

I don’t expect much from Gronk going forward. He seems to be at the end in terms of being a really good TE. Looks to be in the “good player who can have one or two big games” phase of his career. I hope he retires at the end of the year and his money can be reallocated. I love the guy’s contributions and he’s the GOAT IMO but he’s taking up way too much cap for what you get from him.

Gronk is still better than any rookie TE asked to take his spot next year. The odds of a rookie being that complete TE (blocking/catching) are slim. I think Gronk still has quality play in front of him.

 

[BobDigital]

Honestly. It is just Brady getting older. He has become more inconsistent.

As people have said before, he is the Patriots system and what has kept it chugging along for over 15 years.

Particularly in the past few years I've noticed that he has fallen off when forced to play a long string of games in a row with no bye. He will be better after his arm has a week to rest. Then he will need another bye before the playoffs to rest his arm again.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Hopefully we see some Brady pics from Turks & Caicos

... he needs a rest and prune juice.

 

[signbabybrady]

Bye week reboot get some guys healthy and figure out our strengths for the second half. Definitely nothing drastic.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Pats need a reboot or no?

Define reboot?

If you mean killing some rogue processes, cleaning up some files and have everything start up in its defined, programmatic sequence then yes.

If you mean an rm -rf then NO

 

[mosslost]

Gronk is still better than any rookie TE asked to take his spot next year. The odds of a rookie being that complete TE (blocking/catching) are slim. I think Gronk still has quality play in front of him.

He is just hurt right now that's all

 

[jah]

Define reboot?

If you mean killing some rogue processes, cleaning up some files and have everything start up in its defined, programmatic sequence then yes.

If you mean an rm -rf then NO

cd /playbook/offense
rm philly_special.play

 

[BelichickFan]

Can't reboot with a 41 year old QB. They had their chance with the Garrapolo trade but Bill passed

 

[borg]

Hopefully we see some Brady pics from Turks & Caicos

... he needs a rest and prune juice.

Brady needs to hit the squat rack so he has strength not to get tackled by his own feet. Deviating from TB12 rubberband training might make BFF Alex sad , but performing a follow-up deep penetrating glute treatment always elevates Alex's mood

 

[MainePatsFan26]

Gronk is still better than any rookie TE asked to take his spot next year. The odds of a rookie being that complete TE (blocking/catching) are slim. I think Gronk still has quality play in front of him.

A rookie costs peanuts, Gronk costs the whole peanut butter jar.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

A rookie costs peanuts, Gronk costs the whole peanut butter jar.

Then why can’t we have both, and give the rook Allen’s spot?

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Is Gronk a UFA after the end of this season?

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Gronk is still better than any rookie TE asked to take his spot next year. The odds of a rookie being that complete TE (blocking/catching) are slim. I think Gronk still has quality play in front of him.

Idk about this. He's the goat TE so it's unfair to compare him to any rookie but but hasn't looked the same all year. He's absolutely closer to the end than the beginning.

There's been a few TE's that have come into the league the past few years that could have been great here.

I get what you're saying though. Ive really seen this coming w Gronk though.

We have to move forward in terms of the position next year. Not saying he won't be on the team but we have to upgrade from what we have nonetheless. We're just too thin, he goes down & we get nothing from that spot.

Luckily there's 4-5 pretty good-looking ones this year.

Fant is a monster. VG all around player, moves like a WR & underutilized big time.

Irv Smith looks like a poor man's OJ Howard (another guy who would kill it here & is underutilized)

Hockenson looks like a George Kittle clone.

K Smith & Strenberger are both intriguing from a flex standpoint.

 

[Bradyking12]

Is Gronk a UFA after the end of this season?

2020

 

[FCB02062]

We'll know this time in 2 weeks. If they go down to the NYJ without edelman, Gronkowski (or with them) and play like schitt AGAIN - yeah, I think its time to start thinking about changing things up. I say even if 87 and 11 are out because it just shows how unreliable some very key offensive players are on this team.

They are not good enough to win road games unless they're playing that stiff in Buffalo from 2 weeks ago...