Today In Patriots History July 8, 2008: Kevin Faulk pleads no contest

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Today in Patriots History
Kevin Faulk Pleads No Contest​

July 8, 2008:
Kevin Faulk pleads no contest to a February charge of possessing two joints at a Lil Wayne concert.

While it seemed innocuous at the time, it turned out to have grave consequences for the Patriots, who were motivated to avenge their Super Bowl loss and being deprived a perfect 19-0 season. The running back would end up being suspended from game one of the 2008 season. As a result it was Sammy Morris rather than Faulk who was protecting Tom Brady that day. On the Pats second possession the QB threw a long first down pass to Randy Moss down inside Chiefs red zone - at the same moment that Bernard Pollard took out Tom's knee, and ruined New England's chances as defending AFC champions in Super Bowl XLIII in Tampa.

Report: Faulk pleads no contest

Patriots running back Kevin Faulk has pleaded no contest to misdemeanor possession of marijuana, stemming from an incident this February, according to KATC-TV in Louisiana. Faulk will have his 5-month jail term suspended and will be given a one-year supervised probation with several conditions...

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Patriots running back Kevin Faulk has pleaded no contest to misdemeanor possession of marijuana, stemming from an incident this February.​

Faulk will have his 5-month jail term suspended and will be given a one-year supervised probation with several conditions, according to the television station. He will have to pay a fine of $300 along with $231 in court costs and a $250 fee for a drug analysis. In addition, he will have to perform 40 hours community service and complete 20 hours of a substance abuse program.​

On Feb. 22, Faulk was found with four hand-rolled cigars filled with the illegal substance while attending a Lil’ Wayne rap concert in his home state of Louisiana.​

Granted it was a suspended sentence, but the tiniest slip up or oversight (forgetting to renew your license, etcetera) would result in five months in jail, for four joints? WTAF! Apparently all the Louisiana state legislators genuinely believed the 1936 Reefer Madness propaganda.



Feb 26, 2008:

Patriots running back Kevin Faulk allegedly found with pot

LAFAYETTE, La. — New England Patriots running back Kevin Faulk was issued a misdemeanor summons last Friday for possession of marijuana.

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New England Patriots running back Kevin Faulk was issued a misdemeanor summons last Friday for possession of marijuana.​

Capt. John Babin of the Lafayette Metro Narcotics Task Force confirmed the summons on Tuesday.​

Faulk, a Louisiana native and former LSU star, was on his way to a suite in the Lafayette Cajundome to watch a performance by rapper Lil Wayne, when a routine search by a sheriff's deputy turned up four marijuana cigarettes, Babin said.​

Everyone heading to the suites was searched, Babin said.​

Faulk was not arrested or required to post bond.​

"He was cited for simple possession, which is a misdemeanor," Babin said. "It's based on an amount possessed for personal use."​

Faulk will be sent a letter notifying him of the court date when it is set.​

"There was no trouble, Kevin was very cooperative," Babin said.​

"We are aware of the report, but I don't have any additional comment at this time," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said.​

The NFL ended up suspending Faulk for the season opener, and also docked him for two game checks.


Below is 17 pages of interesting, conflicting reactions from the forum members of PatsFans at the time of the incident - which not surprisingly, turned into a bit of a social commentary/political debate:

SMY: Kevin Faulk cited for marijuana possession

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Off Topic, not football-related:

July 8, 1959:
The first Americans died in what would become the Viet Nam War.

I have known older friends from my hometown who fought in Viet Nam. On rare occasions they opened up to me what it was like. All I can say is that it was incredibly horrific, and listening to their gruesome stories captivated me - but not in a good way, closer to bringing tears to my eyes. My sincere condolences to anybody that had to fight there; I don't know how you survived what had to have scarred you for life.



First Americans killed in the Vietnam War, July 8, 1959

On this day in 1959, Maj. Dale Ruis and Master Sgt. Chester Ovnand became the first Americans killed in the opening stages of the Vietnam War when Viet Cong guerrillas attacked a military assistance advisory group compound in Bien Hoa, 20 miles northeast of Saigon.​

In the aftermath of World War II, successive administrations in Washington viewed American involvement in South Vietnam as helping prevent a communist takeover while the North Vietnamese government in Hanoi and its Viet Cong allies in the South sought to reunify Vietnam under communist rule. They viewed the conflict as a colonial war, fought initially against France, then the United States and, finally, after the American troop withdrawal, against South Vietnamese authorities.​

The advisory group began arriving in South Vietnam in November 1955 to offer advice and assistance to the Vietnamese ministry of defense, the joint general staff and corps and division commanders in training centers and in provincial and district headquarters. Despite pressure from the Pentagon and on Capitol Hill, President Dwight D. Eisenhower, a Republican and a top general in World War II, resisted sending combat forces to the region or bombing communist targets.​

First Americans killed in South Vietnam | July 8, 1959 | HISTORY

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Maj. Dale R. Buis and Master Sgt. Chester M. Ovnand become the first Americans killed in the American phase of the Vietnam War when guerrillas strike a Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) compound in Bien Hoa, 20 miles northeast of Saigon. The group had arrived in South Vietnam on November 1, 1955, to provide military assistance. The organization consisted of U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps personnel who provided advice and assistance to the Ministry of Defense, Joint General Staff, corps and division commanders, training centers, and province and district headquarters.​

1959 Biên Hòa compound raid - Wikipedia

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On 8 July 1959, six Viet Cong guerrillas attacked a Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) compound in Biên Hòa, a town about 20 miles (32 km) northeast of Saigon. Major Dale R. Buis (visiting from MAAG 5) and Master Sergeant Chester M. Ovnand (MAAG 7) would be among the first Americans killed in the Vietnam War. Two South Vietnamese guards were killed by the guerrillas. After the incident, MAAG personnel began carrying weapons.​

The Viet Cong attacked the mess hall, where six MAAG advisers were watching the film The Tattered Dress. Ovnand was about to switch to the next reel when VC guerrillas poked their weapons through the windows and sprayed the room with automatic weapons fire. Several 9mm rounds were fired at Ovnand. He quickly turned off the lights and went to the top of the stairs, where he was able to turn on the exterior flood lights. On the stairs, he died from his wounds. Buis was crawling towards the kitchen doors at the time. Buis saw the attacker coming through the kitchen doors when the exterior flood lights were switched on. He stood up and charged at the attacker, but was only able to cover 15 feet (4.6 m) before being fatally struck from behind. The attacker, who was about to throw his satchel charge through the door, was startled by his actions and this hesitation resulted in him blowing himself up. The Viet Cong also killed two South Vietnamese guards who were on duty that night. Captain Howard Boston (MAAG 7) and the Vietnamese cook's eight-year-old son were among those injured.​

 

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Today in Patriots History
**** Christy dies at age 30​

July 8, 1966:
Former Patriot running back **** Christy dies at age 30 in a one-vehicle accident in his hometown Chester, Pennsylvania.


**** Christy was a 3rd round (27th overall) selection out of North Carolina State by the Packers in the 1958 NFL draft. Prior to the start of the season he was traded to Pittsburgh, where he played in 12 games (four starts) at both offensive and defensive halfback. Christy was released by the Steelers just prior to the start of the '59 season, and again by the Eagles as part of final roster cuts a year later. Eight days later he signed with the Patriots, getting a fresh start in the inaugural season of the American Football League.

Christy was part of a running back by committee on Lou Saban's 1960 Patriots, leading the team with 4.7 yards per carry while ranking second on both rushing attempts and rushing yardage. In addition to leading the team with four rushing touchdowns, Christy finished third on the team with 26 receptions, while also completing six-of-11 passes for 94 yards and two touchdowns.

Boston was 5-9 in 1960 and had finished at the bottom of the league in points scored. There was a particular need for depth at quarterback behind 36-year-old Butch Songin, and Babe Parilli - a backup with the Oakland Raiders with a big arm and a month short of his 31st birthday - looked to be a good fit. On April 4, 1961 the Patriots traded Christy, FB Alan Miller and DT Hal Smith to the Raiders for Parilli and FB Billy Lott. It turned out to be one of the biggest deals in the American Football League’s history.

Oakland traded Christy to the New York Titans, a team with even more financial ownership issues than Billy Sullivan's Boston Patriots. Christy scored 13 touchdowns for the Titans in 1961-62, then saw his playing time decrease the following year. He finished up his pro football career playing minor league football in 1965-65. Overall he played for 12 different coaches from 1957 to 1965, never playing for the same coach in multiple seasons.

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Awards

• 1957 ACC Player of the Year
• 1958 ACC Athlete of the Year
• Consensus All-American (1957)
• First-team All-ACC (1957)
• No. 40 jersey retired
• AFL All-Star (1962)
• New York Titans MVP (1962)
• ACC 50th Anniversary Football Team (2003)
• **** Christy Award, given to the MVP of the NC State-South Carolina football game, is named in his memory.
• ACC Silver Anniversary Team (1978)

Individual Records

• Owned 14 NC State and four ACC records when his career ended
• Still owns school record for best rushing average (7.1 yards per carry) in a single season
• Ranks 11th in school record books with 20 career touchdowns, 12th in rushing yards (1,817), 15th for rushing career touchdowns (15), and sixth for yards per attempt (5.22)
• Led the ACC in scoring (83 pts), kick returns (45.4 yds) in 1957
• NC State's leading rusher for three consecutive seasons, gained 1,817 yards in career
• Scored all 29 points in a 29-26 win in season-finale against South Carolina to clinch NC State's first ACC title

Team Records

• 1957 ACC football champions

General Information

• Signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1958
• Played five seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Boston Patriots and New York Titans
• Led the AFL in punt returns and punt return touchdowns in 1961 and 1962
• Led the AFL in kick returns in 1962
• Led the AFL in all purpose yards in 1962
• Born: Nov. 24, 1935; Died: Aug. 27, 1966

Dick Christy Pro Football Record

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Today in Patriots History
Marty Schottenheimer traded​

July 8, 1971:
Patriots trade LB Marty Schottenheimer and a 1972 fourth round draft pick to Pittsburgh for Mike Haggerty


Haggerty had started at LT for the Steelers in 1970 and had played 43 games with 30 starts since 1967. He played in 13 games as a backup swing tackle for the Pats in '71, then finished his NFL career with Detroit.

Schottenheimer had played in all 56 games for the Bills from '65-'68, making the AFL All-Star team as a rookie. He played in 23 games in two seasons for the Pats, then went on to have a great second career as coach. Marty began as a linebackers coach and defensive coordinator from 1974 to 1984 with the Giants, Browns and Lions, then won 200 games as head coach with the Browns, Chiefs, Washington and Chargers from 1984 to 2006. San Diego owner Alex Spanos made the boneheaded decision to fire Schottenheimer after the Chargers went 14-2 in 2006 because they had the audacity to lose to the Patriots 24-21 in the divisional round playoff game. Hint to Spanos: Norv Turner was not a better head coach...

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Today in Patriots History
Supposed to be John Smith's replacement​

July 8, 1982:
Patriots sign tenth round draft pick Brian Clark


While in college Brian "Thunderfoot" Clark was involved in a controversial field goal attempt. Florida lost at Auburn in 1981, 14-12, when Clark's 40-yard field goal attempt with seconds remaining was ruled inches wide. Clark, his holder and several reporters standing directly behind the uprights thought the kick had easily made it within the standards and was good.

Clark was a perfect 62-62 on PATs in three years with the Gators, while also booting 43 field goals from 1979-81. Despite that setback versus Auburn, Clark was still considered talented enough to be drafted; at the time he held school records for career field goals made, single season field goals made, and most field goals made in a single game (5). He became the first player that was strictly a placekicker to be drafted in the history of the Patriots franchise.


Incumbent Patriots kicker John Smith had regressed, from connecting on 76.5% in his Pro Bowl year of 1980, to 62.5% in 1981. Particularly galling was Smith (who would turn 33 during the upcoming season), going 2-6 on field goal attempts from 30-39 yards out in '81. Head coach Ron Meyer was looking for Smith's heir apparent, or at minimum an open competition for the place kicker position.

The plan looked great on paper, but Clark's hamstring did not cooperate with the agenda. On the second of three roster cutdown dates, August 31, Clark was placed on injured reserve.

Unfortunately for Meyer, Smith was not available, still recovering after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his knee. That left the kicking job to Rex Robinson for the first two games and first (week 11) post-strike game, Dan Miller (who ironically played against Clark in college while at Miami) for the next two games, and finally Smith returned for the final four games, plus the playoff loss. A year later Smith was again hobbled, and finally put out to pasture following the 1983 season.


As for Clark, perhaps it was for the best; how would the warm-weather Florida native reacted had he been called upon for a game-winning field goal in The Snowplow Game late in the 1982 season? Would we as Patriots fans have been denied that iconic moment?


Clark was later with the Falcons and Bucs, spent one season on IR and another in the USFL; he only appeared in one NFL game before retiring from pro football.

For nearly 40 years Brian Clark worked his way up the corporate ladder with Steelcase Office Solutions, where he is the Business Development Manager at their Birmingham location.


There are several interesting Florida Gators football records in the following article.

These records were made to last forever

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PAT percentage (career): Brian Clark was a steady kicker at UF and made all 62 of his extra point tries during his career. One bad hold, one slip in the mud and a kicker's streak can end suddenly. This record could be exceeded if a kicker made 63-of-63, but the percentage can never be eclipsed.​

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That 1982 draft class that Brian Clark was part of should have been a gold mine: the team had the first overall pick, two first round picks, three 2nds, two 3rds and two 4ths. Kenneth Sims underwhelmed as the first overall pick, snakebit by injuries. NT Lester Williams (1.27), RB Robert Weathers (2.40), OT Darryl Haley (2.55), WR Cedric Jones (3.56), DE George Crump (4.85) and LB Brian Ingram (4.111) ranged from average to awful. LB Clayton Weishuhn was an absolute beast, but injuries resulted in a short career. Thankfully the Pats fourth choice - Andre Tippett (2.41) salvaged what would have been a draft debacle, with help from S Fred Marion (5.112).





July 8, 1982:
The Patriots release Jeff Roberts

Roberts made such a quick exit from Foxborough, he didn't even have a bio in the 1982 Patriots Media Guide. In May Roberts failed his initial physical shortly after being selected in the seventh round (168th overall) selection in the 1982 draft. After being let go by the Pats, the LB/DE from Tulane never caught on with another NFL team. Instead he headed far north, from the Mississippi delta to Saskatchewan, playing for the Roughriders in the CFL through 1988. In '84 he led the team with 13 sacks.

 

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Today in Patriots History
The Chief Purser​

July 8, 1991:
The Patriots name Michael Quashie the team's Director of Operations

Like the vast majority from the Victor Kiam-Sam Jankovich-**** MacPherson era, Mike Quashie's employment with the Patriots ended after Bill Parcells was hired by James Orthwein in 1993.


According to his Facebook bio, Mike is now a Chief Purser with Royal Caribbean Cruise Line. That position is essentially the senior administrative and financial officer aboard a passenger ship, overseeing guest services, managing the crew, and handling onboard financial operations. As the Chief Purser, he is effectively the boat's hotel manager, managing onboard accounts, foreign exchange, crew payroll, and casino funds. In addition he oversees the front desk staff, resolves cabin complaints, and manages passenger accommodations. The Chief Purser also processes ship manifests, prepares documents for customs and immigration, and handles visas and passports at every port of call.

Between his time in Foxborough and now, Quashie also worked as the assistant athletic director at the University of Miami; director of security at the James L Knight Center in Miami; and director of security at the Four Seasons in Miami.

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Today in Patriots History
News from the Aughts​

July 8, 2002:
Tony Scott is claimed off waivers from the Jets
Terrell Buckley signs with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

The news on Tony Scott first broke on Friday July 5, but was formally announced on Monday the 8th.

Patriots are awarded Tony Scott off waivers

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. - The New England Patriots were awarded their claim on cornerback Tony Scott (on July 5) after he was waived by the New York Jets.

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FOXBOROUGH, Mass. - The New England Patriots were awarded their claim on cornerback Tony Scott (on July 5) after he was waived by the New York Jets.​

Scott, 25, was originally drafted by the Jets in the sixth round (179th pick overall) of the 2000 NFL draft out of North Carolina State. The 5-foot-10-inch, 193-pound cornerback is entering his third season. In 2000, he played in all 16 games for the Jets as a rookie and recorded his first career interception against Miami. In 2001, he appeared in nine games for New York, playing mostly on special teams.​

Bucs sign Buckley - Sarasota Herald-Tribune

TAMPA -- The Tampa Bay Buccaneers signed Florida State's all-time interception leader, Terrell Buckley, to a one-year contract Monday.​

The 10-year NFL veteran has played with Green Bay, Miami and Denver and was a member of New England's Super Bowl XXXVI-champion Patriots last season.​

The 5-foot-9, 176-pound Buckley was a first-round pick by the Packers in the 1992 NFL draft and has 41 career interceptions and 469 tackles. Buckley had 21 interceptions at FSU.​

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The New England Patriots signed cornerback Tony Scott off waivers from the New York Jets. He is the fourth player picked up from the Jets since the Patriots won the Super Bowl. The others are safety Chris Hayes and defensive linemen Steve Martin and Rick Lyle, who were free agents.​

After released by Jets, Scott lands with Pats - Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com

Having learned the significance of roster depth during their Super Bowl championship season in 2001, the New England Patriots didn't forgot that key lesson, claiming young defensive back Tony Scott on waivers Friday.​

Released last week by the New York Jets, the two-year veteran joins an already crowded secondary unit, and creates even more competition for places in the "nickel" and "dime" coverage packages and also on special teams.​

Scott was released by the cap-strapped Jets so that the team could sign two "street" free agents, one each on the offensive and defensive lines. But the former North Carolina State star also never fit in with the Herman Edwards coaching staff and would have had a difficult time making the New York roster.​

He comes relatively cheap, with a 2002 base salary of $375,000, having re-signed with the Jets in April as an "exclusive rights" free agent. New England officials want to add a "split" provision to Scott's deal, which would pay him less than his scheduled base salary if he was injured in training camp.​

The Patriots like Scott's size, quickness, ability to break on the ball, and the fact he can probably line up at either cornerback or safety. He is expected to battle with backups like Leonard Myers, Tom Knight, Antwan Harris and Brock Williams for playing time in "nickel" and "dime" situations.​

In 23 appearances with the Jets over two seasons, Scott, a sixth-round choice in the 2000 draft, had one interception, one pass defensed, one tackle from scrimmage and 10 tackles on special teams units.​

Scott would be released on August 24, just ahead of the first wave of cuts to bring the roster down to 65 players. He spent the 2003 offseason with Seattle, but again was cut in late August. After that Scott played in the Arena Football league from 2004 to 2008.

Bound for county sports hall: Scott's love of the game took him from Burns to the NFL - Shelby NC Star

Where Are They Now: Tony Scott

Catch Up with the Jets Legend from North Carolina State

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Tampa Bay waived Terrell Buckley as part of final roster cuts, and the Patriots signed him a few days later. Buckley played in all 16 games for the Pats in '02. His three picks brought his two-year total of interceptions to seven with the Pats, and he finished his NFL career with 50 interceptions.

Former Florida State defensive back Terrell Buckley named to College Football Hall of Fame - Tallahassee Democrat

Terrell Buckley (2019) - Hall of Fame - National Football Foundation

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Terrell Buckley - Assistant Coach/Cornerbacks - Staff Directory - Ole Miss Athletics - Hotty Toddy

A College Football Hall of Famer, Terrell Buckley is in his second season as cornerbacks coach at Ole Miss. A native Mississippian, Buckley joined the Rebels...

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July 8, 2004:
Pats re-sign two ERFAs: Shawn Mayer and Wilbert Brown

Mayer had been signed as an undrafted free agent out of Penn State by the Pats in 2003. The safety played in 9 games that year with 15 tackles, including one in Super Bowl 36. He only played in three games in 2004, and in February 2005 he signed as a free agent with the Atlanta Falcons, who then allocated him to NFL Europe. Mayer excelled as a member of the Hamburg Sea Devils, matching the NFL Europe record for interceptions in a game (3), setting team records for picks in a season (5) and earning All-NFL Europe honors. He played in twelve NFL games while collecting two super bowl rings.

In his post-NFL career Mayer worked as a personal trainer, served as a player development coach at Rutgers for two years, then transitioned to law enforcement, with the Department of Defense and now as a police officer in Baltimore.


Wilbert Brown was an interior offensive lineman who entered the league as an undrafted rookie out of Houston in 1999. He had been the starting right guard for Washington in 2003 before arriving in Foxborough. Brown only got on the field for one game with the Pats in '04, but that was enough for him to get a super bowl ring as well.

Shawn Mayer closes in on Ricky Proehl in Super Bowl 38​

 

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Today in Patriots History
More news from the Aughts​

July 8, 2006:

it hurts to say goodbye,but-----

We pickup David Patton upon release. We trade Branch to Philly and Graham to Bronco. That should get us a first and second round choice in next years draft and we could even send Neal to the west coast for a second rounder. That allows us to pick up a receiver plus a cornerback in the first...

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Jul 8, 2006

We pickup David Patton upon release. We trade Branch to Philly and Graham to Bronco. That should get us a first and second round choice in next years draft and we could even send Neal to the west coast for a second rounder. That allows us to pick up a receiver plus a cornerback in the first round. The picks that are left, a future center and a blocking tightend. now depending on injuries we have a very good chance at three-in-a-row. no more contract disputes, a fully loaded team with no glaring weakness but that starts next year not now. we still have a shot this year but only if Brady...

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If you were to trade Branch and Graham, you would be significantly diminishing our offense this year. They are both very productive players and with who would you replace that productivity?

It's easy to say "trade them because we won't be able to sign them." But what about that production for this year. Personally, I'd rather they just let them play out their final years here. At least we'd get 16 games and playoffs out of them this year and challenge for another SB.

I'm new here, but welcome to the board

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July 8, 2007:

Where have they gone? Devin Wyman

So I'm half asleep this morning....and I here the name Devin Wyman on espn in the backround. I remember a promising sixth round draft pick by the Pats back in 1996. Couldn't be him.....that was over ten years ago. I look up at the TV.....and see that it's Arena league football highlights. I...

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Thread 'Where have they gone? Devin Wyman'

Jul 8, 2007

So I'm half asleep this morning....and I here the name Devin Wyman on espn in the backround. I remember a promising sixth round draft pick by the Pats back in 1996. Couldn't be him.....that was over ten years ago. I look up at the TV.....and see that it's Arena league football highlights. I go to my computer and google him....sure enough Devin Wyman is still playing football (if you want to call it that)

Does anyone remember him? I remember Devin being talked about, as the steal of the draft.

http://www.arenafootball.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3500&ATCLID=96359&Q_SEASON=2007

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Jul 8, 2007

So I'm half asleep this morning....and I here the name Devin Wyman on espn in the backround. I remember a promising sixth round draft pick by the Pats back in 1996. Couldn't be him.....that was over ten years ago. I look up at the TV.....and see that it's Arena league football highlights. I go to my computer and google him....sure enough Devin Wyman is still playing football (if you want to call it that)

Does anyone remember him? I remember Devin being talked about, as the steal of the draft...

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July 8, 2008:

Defense Blew Game, OL Blew Season

The one question which still hasn’t been adequately answered: Why?

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At the epicenter of this disaster was the offensive line, a unit which was at or near the top of all offensive lines in the league. Three of the five players were selected to play in the Pro Bowl. Another one may get a trip to Honolulu before long. All season long, they protected Brady expertly and efficiently, and helped Maroney become the featured back everyone thought he would become. The offensive line was as much of a lock in any game as Brady was. . . . .​

Let's begin with perhaps the biggest culprit, All Pro left guard Logan Mankins. The massive guard from Fresno State (at least the baseball players at his alma mater know how to close the deal) is among the most ferocious players in the NFL. A champion calf-tier, Mankins could calf-tie Tuck blindfolded. Yet Tuck repeatedly went through Mankins as if the former Bulldog was a turnstile. Why?​

All Pro left tackle Matt Light sometimes has a problem with speed rushers. He finds the Jets easier pickings since John Abraham moved elsewhere, for example. He drew Umeniyora in the Super Bowl, not Strahan. Light may be well known for his sense of humor, but on the field he is as intense as it gets. In the Super Bowl, Umeniyora was more intense. Why?​

Dan Koppen, himself an All Pro center, calls out blocking assignments and helps greatly with run blocking up the middle. Strong safety James Butler and middle linebacker Antonio Pierce led the Giants in tackles. Butler isn't really the problem here (Harrison led the Patriots in tackles), it's Pierce. Not enough blocking up the middle. Why?​

Stephen Neal is insulated from this discussion, as he spent most of the game injured. Right tackle Nick Kaczur and backup guard Russ Hochstein should have helped out better than they did. Hochstein, for example, did yeoman work against Brentson Buckner and Kris Jenkins four Super Bowls ago in a backup role. But not this year. Why?​

Basically, here's why, and we have the Celtics to thank for this theory. . . . .​

The bottom line is that the Patriots did not take the Giants seriously, and had they did they would have won the Super Bowl going away. The offensive line is a direct reflection of that, as a monster unit with three Pro Bowlers were left to waste by a defensive unit which came at them with more ferocity and intensity until they finally ran out of gas in the fourth quarter. The Patriots might have felt they caught a break by not having to face Brett Favre and the Packers, but instead drew a familiar opponent which they were easily able to move the ball on just after Christmas time. There is simply no other explanation. The Giants brought more intensity to the game than the Patriots did, and the Patriots paid for it in the worst way possible.​

There is no need to retool this unit. Just tell Neal to stay healthy and Kaczur to stay out of trouble. Otherwise, this unit should remain intact in 2008. They will once again provide Brady and the running game with all they need to excel, though perhaps not at record levels, again in 2008. It remains an outstanding unit which picked the worst possible time to have its one bad game of the season.​

July 8, 2008:

The "What player will get cut and shock others" thread

O.K. Training camp is very close by and my annual "What player will surprise everyone by getting cut" thread is back. You are guarandamnteed best be sure at least one player getting cut will be a shocker,so who will it be? I will vote for shocker cut player to be ..... Heath Evans...

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Jul 8, 2008

O.K. Training camp is very close by and my annual "What player will surprise everyone by getting cut" thread is back.

You are guarandamnteed best be sure at least one player getting cut will be a shocker,so who will it be?

I will vote for shocker cut player to be ..... Heath Evans

Yours??? (BTW: No Tom Brady or Richard Seymour or other top player ****** smartass answers O.K.?)

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Jul 8, 2008

Wildcard Possibilities...
Izzo...older, slower and challenged by many younger cannon fodder bodies
Kaczur...runs afowl of John Law agin
Harrison...ages suddenly and becomes too pricey for his contribution
Cassell...like, would this really be a surprise?
Chad Jackson...injury settlement...(Patsfans loses 400 Thread topics in 2008 & folds)

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Post in thread 'The "What player will get cut and shock others" thread'

Jul 8, 2008

Heath is also a receiving option. last year i remember him splitting and hauling in a key first down 16 yrd catch. not sure i trust eckel receiving skills.Heath lined up quite a few times as TE due to his receving skills.

Eckel i am not sure lined up as a blocking FB many times .he played RB late in games not a blocking FB and never as a blocking TE with a few catches thrown his way.

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July 8, 2009:

Goodell to make a decision on SB 44 halftime show - Which is your choice?

Alex Marvez has a couple of choices for Goodell to think about.. Which act will get the nod for Super Bowl XLIV? - FOX Sports on MSN I would think it would be beyond cool to see Bon Jovi as the singing act,especially if Jon's good buddy Belichick is on the sidelines :) Bon Jovi is my...

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Jul 8, 2009

Alex Marvez has a couple of choices for Goodell to think about..

Which act will get the nod for Super Bowl XLIV? - FOX Sports on MSN

I would think it would be beyond cool to see Bon Jovi as the singing act,especially if Jon's good buddy Belichick is on the sidelines

Bon Jovi is my choice - Any other good suggestions for wholesome 'Family' type musicians that Goodell desires instead of seeing Janet Jacksons tit?

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Post in thread 'Goodell to make a decision on SB 44 halftime show - Which is your choice?'

Jul 8, 2009

Wow, that's... not a good list. I'm a DMB fan, but that doesn't fit with football at all. Out of that list, Bon Jovi would be the best choice, definitely.

• BradyFTW!

Post in thread 'Goodell to make a decision on SB 44 halftime show - Which is your choice?'

Jul 8, 2009

Alex Marvez has a couple of choices for Goodell to think about..

Which act will get the nod for Super Bowl XLIV? - FOX Sports on MSN

I would think it would be beyond cool to see Bon Jovi as the singing act,especially if Jon's good buddy Belichick is on the sidelines

Bon Jovi is my choice - Any other good suggestions for wholesome 'Family' type musicians that Goodell desires instead of seeing Janet Jacksons tit?

eric clapton not even close

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News from the 2010s​

July 8, 2010:

Friday Patriots Headlines - July 9th

Here are today's New England Patriots headlines for Friday July 9th, 2010.

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We'll kick off this morning with an article from Jeff Howe of NESN.com who expects a big year from wide receiver Randy Moss, pointing out that the last time Moss was in a contract year (2007) he had a record breaking season.

For any Charlie Weis fans out there, UHND.com has a look back at Weis' first season with Notre Dame. Weis had a tough go of it in the college ranks, finishing with a Career Record: of 35-27 before being fired by the University.

Caylan Davis of NESN.com takes a look at wide receiver Wes Welker, and wonders if he will indeed be ready to go by the time the Patriots are ready for their season opener against the Cincinnati Bengals.

The West Virginia Metro News has an article on former Patriot Troy Brown, who is set to be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame next week.

Fans tend to get excited whenever there are any uniform changes, and apparently the Patriots are making changes to theirs this year. No changes are coming on the gridiron, but according to the Boston Herald it appears that the cheerleaders are getting an upgrade to theirs this year.

OTHER NFL HEADLINES:

After his recent arrest, JaMarcus Russell is actually getting some support from media outlets who are blaming the Oakland Raiders who they feel treated Russell badly during his tenure with the team. The Raiders are firing back, and claiming they did all they could for the troubled quarterback.

"We did all that we could to intervene and assist with a myriad of issues with JaMarcus Russell. NFL policy restricts our ability to comment publicly at this time. Therefore, those in the media who declare what the Raiders knew or should have known or what the Raiders did or should have done, are reckless, irresponsible and offensive and do a disservice to all concerned, including the public."

More evidence is coming out regarding the Michael Vick shooting incident. WAVY.com reports that surveillance footage showed that Vick had left the scene of his 30th birthday party just minutes before the shooting at Virginia Beach Town Center took place. The video does show that he was involved in an altercation, but left the scene before the incident took place. Vick went on to say recently that "there never should have been a party".

Inside Darius Butler's Head

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As first pointed out earlier today by the Herald's Ian Rapoport, the Patriots defensive back wrote an entry a couple of days ago and gave some insight into his thoughts about this offseason, along with his time living here in New England.

Like the majority of fans who are excited for the start of training camp, Butler also sounds like he's excited for this season.

"It seems like forever since I last played a game," writes Butler in his blog. "In college, you have a bowl game in January, and by March you're already having spring practice. It seems like so long since I played a football game, I really can't wait until the season starts and I can get back on the field again."

Mike Reiss nigh on gives his 53 man squad...

2010 Patriots Player Rankings http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/columns/story?columnist=reiss_mike&id=5363317 _________________________________________________________ Reiss' rankings are primarily based on four factors: 1. Talent. 2. Importance in the short and long term...

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Jul 8, 2010

2010 Patriots Player Rankings

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/columns/story?columnist=reiss_mike&id=5363317

_________________________________________________________

Reiss' rankings are primarily based on four factors:

1. Talent.

2. Importance in the short and long term (which projects development).

3. Positional value.

4. Economic value.

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Jeez. Some of the players I have in my squad dont match who he has. And I certainly wouldn't have Mike Wright as my 20th most valuable player. (At least 15 positions too high IMHO). And Fred...

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Post in thread 'Mike Reiss nigh on gives his 53 man squad...'

Jul 8, 2010

A 60-man squad is appropriate at the moment. After all, there will be injuries. Welker and Mankins may or may not have roster spots gor Game One. I find his ratings of Wright, G. Warren and Taylor especially interesting.

Some notes, nitpicks and surprises

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If Welker and Mankins are back, I guess his roster is fine. He does have only 8 OL's and Larsen as the backup center. I would include Connolly, but I'm fine with Connolly at 54. A roster spot will open. If not (and we have Welker and Mankins), then we're fine in any case.
I'm fine with Aiken and Slater as two...

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July 8, 2011:

Ras-I Dowling Highlight Video

A 2: 41 highlight video of Virginia rookie defensive back Ras-I Dowling

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Patriots Slot Corner

cstjohn raised an interesting question in the Pass Rusher thread - I thought we could break it out and have a separate discussion. Who should be the slot corner? The Patriots are in the nickel a lot. The base 3-4 was used less than half the time in 2010. Let's assume the Patriots don't...

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Thread 'Patriots Slot Corner'

Jul 8, 2011

cstjohn raised an interesting question in the Pass Rusher thread - I thought we could break it out and have a separate discussion.

Who should be the slot corner?

The Patriots are in the nickel a lot. The base 3-4 was used less than half the time in 2010.
Let's assume the Patriots don't add any significant defensive (not special teams) corners in free agency.
In the primary nickel defense, who would be the slot corner?

Roster:
Devin McCourty - 5-11 193, 4.48
Leigh Bodden - 6-1 193
Ras-I Dowling - 6-1 198, 4.39
Kyle Arrington - 5-9 192
Darius Butler - 5-10 183, 4.38...

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Post in thread 'Patriots Slot Corner'

Jul 8, 2011

cstjohn raised an interesting question in the Pass Rusher thread - I thought we could break it out and have a separate discussion.

Who should be the slot corner?

The Patriots are in the nickel a lot. The base 3-4 was used less than half the time in 2010.
Let's assume the Patriots don't add any significant defensive (not special teams) corners in free agency.
In the primary nickel defense, who would be the slot corner?

Roster:
Devin McCourty - 5-11 193, 4.48
Leigh Bodden - 6-1 193
Ras-I Dowling - 6-1 198, 4.39
Kyle Arrington - 5-9 192
Darius Butler - 5-10 183, 4.38...

• patriot lifer

Post in thread 'Patriots Slot Corner'

Jul 8, 2011

This might be a cop-out, but I think all four players will be given the chance to compete for that role, and whoever does best in training camp will get it. I also think it's silly for people to write off Dowling because of his skillset. Yes, he might be better suited for the outside, but if he can cover NFL recievers and bring the nessesary amount of phyiscality to the position, I wouldn't be surprised to see him win the job.

• Professor Frink

Post in thread 'Patriots Slot Corner'

Jul 8, 2011

This might be a cop-out, but I think all four players will be given the chance to compete for that role, and whoever does best in training camp will get it. I also think it's silly for people to write off Dowling because of his skillset. Yes, he might be better suited for the outside, but if he can cover NFL recievers and bring the nessesary amount of phyiscality to the position, I wouldn't be surprised to see him win the job.

Sure, they'll all be given the chance. If you had to pick somebody and read the tea leaves, who would it be?

I'd say Wilhite and Arrington are the safe...

• patriot lifer

July 8, 2012:

Did the lockout derail a contract extension for Wes Welker?

Last year Wes Welker said that he did not want to have any contract negotiations take place once the season began. Was that really the right decision to get a deal done - and was that really the right decision to avoid distractions?

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Normally I would completely agree with Welker in his desire to avoid the possibility of contract negotiations becoming a possible distraction during the season. In retrospect however, I think he and his agent should have reconsidered this decision given the very unique circumstances that the lockout had on working out a contract extension that would have been acceptable to both parties. Their hard stance on the topic may have resulted in their painting themselves into a corner in regards to getting a long term deal done, and the peace of mind from the added financial security that it would have provided.

When are Season Tickets being sent out?

Did anyone get their tickets yet (if so... when)??? I am curious on when they are being sent out.

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Jul 8, 2012

Did anyone get their tickets yet (if so... when)???
I am curious on when they are being sent out.

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July 8, 2013:

Aaron Dobson - underestimated even as a rookie?

I've been on leave now for the past week which is the reason for all of my posts, I am bored. But I want to know people's take on Aaron Dobson, the rookie WR and what his role will be in the offense. I feel as though, he is slightly being underappreciated and overlooked being the attention and...

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Thread 'Aaron Dobson - underestimated even as a rookie?'

Jul 8, 2013

I've been on leave now for the past week which is the reason for all of my posts, I am bored. But I want to know people's take on Aaron Dobson, the rookie WR and what his role will be in the offense. I feel as though, he is slightly being underappreciated and overlooked being the attention and press that other receivers taken before him are getting and half of them aren't even as good IMO. I like this guy's size, hands, route running, deceptive speed and again, great hands. Made a few one handed grabs including that great one that always scores the highlight reels. But what I also...

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Post in thread 'Aaron Dobson - underestimated even as a rookie?'

Jul 8, 2013

it will take this kid a few years to get the system. he won't be a 1000 yard receiver next year, which sucks because the team has really no one else at WR other than Amendola (if he's even healthy).

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Jul 8, 2013

If we can get 40 catches and 500 yards and 5 TDs outta him, I'd be thrilled.

• TruthSeeker

Post in thread 'Aaron Dobson - underestimated even as a rookie?'

Jul 8, 2013

it will take this kid a few years to get the system. he won't be a 1000 yard receiver next year, which sucks because the team has really no one else at WR other than Amendola (if he's even healthy).

We can pretty reasonably guess that, and manage expectations accordingly, but we're seeing WRs come in and make impacts far faster than we used to, due to the increasing complexity of college offenses. If he comes in and plays as the credible #1 wideout this year, it shouldn't shock anyone.

Different positions, but people were saying the same things about Jones, Solder, and...

• BradyFTW!

Post in thread 'Aaron Dobson - underestimated even as a rookie?'

Jul 8, 2013

We can pretty reasonably guess that, and manage expectations accordingly, but we're seeing WRs come in and make impacts far faster than we used to, due to the increasing complexity of college offenses. If he comes in and plays as the credible #1 wideout this year, it shouldn't shock anyone.

Different positions, but people were saying the same things about Jones, Solder, and McCourty just over the past few years. The Patriots are pretty good at getting immediate production out of their early picks.

also keeping my eye on cordarelle patterson and making sure that he pats didn't...

• SHOWTIME15

July 8, 2014:

Patriots Huddle: Tuesday News & Notes 7/8

Here are this morning's New England Patriots news and notes on this Tuesday.

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ARRINGTON MAKING THE MOST OF HIS OPPORTUNITY:

Patriots cornerback Kyle Arrington has worked hard since arriving in New England, and he's quietly become an important asset to the Patriots' secondary.

The former standout from Hofstra recently admitted that coming from a small program in college and living the dream of playing of the NFL proves that anything is possible. He's going to be hosting his newly formed "Kamp Kyle" football camp, which will take place July 19th in Plainfield, Connecticut working with players from ages 7 to 18 years old.

"To be in this position, I am a prime example, a real-life example of whatever your dreams are or aspire to be, with undeniable faith, determination, resilience, what can happen. It is possible," Arrington told Mark Daniels of the Providence Journal. "To be in a situation where I can have a positive impact on just one life, it makes it all worthwhile."

Heading into training camp Arrington knows that the competition will be tougher than it's been in recent years with Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner now in the mix, but he told the newspaper he's looking forward to it.

"Oh man, that's what it's all about in this game. It's all about competition, and we have a great group of guys," Arrington said. "The guys you just mentioned, Revis, Browner … their body of work speaks for itself. I'm definitely looking forward to training camp. When things get full throttle, things should get interesting and be fun."

EDELMAN SET TO DRIVE THE PACE CAR FOR A NASCAR EVENT:

Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman will be taking part in an upcoming event this weekend in New Hampshire for NASCAR's Camping World RV Sales 301 Sprint Cup Series.

Edelman will reportedly be driving the pace car for the event, although unfortunately for the Patriots receiver he won't be driving a glitzy race car during the event. Edelman will be driving a Toyota Camry SE, but he's still excited about participating.

As a punt returner in the NFL, I know all about teamwork, high-speeds and collisions on Sundays," said Edelman in a media release. "But my goal on Sunday, July 13 will be to get those guys around the track safely before they drop the green flag for what is sure to be a highly-competitive race. I am honored to be chosen to drive the pace car at New Hampshire Motor Speedway, and I can't wait to take in my very first NASCAR race from what will certainly be the best seat in the house.

GRONK ON TRACK FOR WEEK ONE RETURN, SPOTTED IN CHICAGO RECENTLY:

After the uncertainty that surrounded him in the early part of last season, the Patriots were forced to live without Rob Gronkowski as he continued recovering from an infection in his forearm, as well as offseason back surgery at the start of 2013.

Patriots Pre-Training Camp Player Spotlight: RB Stevan Ridley

Heading into training camp we'll be spotlighting players throughout the Patriots' roster, with this edition focusing on running back Stevan Ridley.

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Patriots Pre-Training Camp Player Spotlight: WR Kenbrell Thompkins

Heading into training camp we'll be spotlighting players throughout the Patriots' roster, with this edition focusing on receiver Kenbrell Thompkins.

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Patriots Pre-Training Camp Player Spotlight: CB Logan Ryan

Heading into training camp we'll be spotlighting players throughout the Patriots' roster, with this edition focusing on cornerback Logan Ryan.

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A historical look at the uniform numbers for the new Patriots: #36, Stephen Houston

Stephen Houston is the latest members of the Pats to don the number 36; here is a look at those who have preceded them to wear that jersey over the years during the franchise history of the Patriots. For most fans, you are going to first think of a pair of safeties when you see a player in this...

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Who will be the starting safety opposite Devin McCourty?

We should field the best secondary in the AFC in 2014 but the one question mark is the spot opposite Devin McCourty at safety. We have several candidates – - Pat Chung – 2009 second round draft pick - Tavon Wilson – 2012 second round draft pick - Duron Harmon – 2013 third round draft pick -...

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Jul 8, 2014

We should field the best secondary in the AFC in 2014 but the one question mark is the spot opposite Devin McCourty at safety. We have several candidates –

- Pat Chung – 2009 second round draft pick
- Tavon Wilson – 2012 second round draft pick
- Duron Harmon – 2013 third round draft pick
- Logan Ryan – 2013 third round draft pick (played CB as a rookie)

I know Harmon is the favorite to win the job, but Chung started and played well for us in 2010 and 2011, Wilson played well at times as a rookie in 2012, and Ryan had a fantastic season as a rookie CB last year.

This is a poll so...

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Jul 8, 2014

Harmon has already as a rookie outplayed Wilson who I don't think makes the team this year. A dark horse is Brandon Browner. Especially if Ryan steps up as a top #2 corner. If you think about it many Top SS's are converted big physical corners like Lott/Rod Woodson. Think bout it, Browner is a thumper tackler,physical in coverage,a sure tackler and if you watch his highlights he is great in space and breaks on many passes with explosion. You won't find a ss in the NFL that can cover like he can yet possess the height to match a TE or big WR. Many top SS's in the NFL like Byrd/ward lack the...

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Post in thread 'Who will be the starting safety opposite Devin McCourty?'

Jul 8, 2014

Chung had a good season in 2010, and was a key player down the stretch in 2011.

In both 2012 and 2013, he was probably the worst starting safety in the league for the brief period that he was allowed to start (before he was benched for being terrible).

My guess would be Harmon, with some possibility that the rumors about Ryan making the switch might be true. If they are, then I wouldn't be surprised to see him start. I'd be pretty surprised if Wilson turned it around in year 3, though, and shocked if it's either Ebner or Chung.

As I see it, Harmon's the safe pick at this point...

• BradyFTW!

Post in thread 'Who will be the starting safety opposite Devin McCourty?'

Jul 9, 2014

Starting safety next to McCourty will be Harmon in all likelihood, but I could easily envision a scenario where that "starter" is only on the field for 50-60% of the snaps. They other 40% or so will be filled by other players who excel (relative term, please don't take it too literally here) at various assignments, such as Chung on some running downs and Ryan for some underneath zones.

I do feel a number of those snaps will be filled without an official second "safety" on the field, where you'll have McCourty single high with four corners lined up in man coverage (or variations). It...

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More news from the 2010s​

July 8, 2015:

Brady, Gronkowski Among NFL.com's Latest Bizarre Top 10 List

NFL.com's Adam Schein has his latest top 10 list and has some interesting decisions that he's made in putting this list together, including his top four players, two of which appear to be in error.

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NFL.com's Adam Schein has his latest top 10 list and has some interesting decisions that he's made in putting it together, including his top four players, two of which appear to be in error.

At least logic would lead you to believe it has to be a mistake, since no rational person could have come to a similar conclusion.

Schein has Patriots quarterback Tom Brady listed in the rankings, which is one thing in his corner in a list that, for the most part, contains players who are worthy of being mentioned among the league's elite. However, the bizarre part is the fact that he ranked Brady at #4 and Indianapolis quarterback Andrew Luck at #3.

Schein offers no real explanation for the decision in his piece, saying positive things about both players.

His list shapes out this way:

10) Richard Sherman
9) Rob Gronkowski
8) Adrian Peterson
7) Luke Kuechly
6) Earl Thomas
5) Ndamukong Suh
4) Tom Brady
3) Andrew Luck
2) J.J. Watt
1) Aaron Rodgers

Patriots Training Camp Primer - Wide Receivers

The Patriots are in good shape at WR in 2015, their top three options, Edelman, LaFell and Amendola return and are well integrated into the offense.

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Colts Luck on the Patriots - "We'd Like to Dethrone Them"

Colts QB Andrew Luck made a little noise this week after answering fan questions for a forum in London, saying that he'd like to see his team take the next step and knock the Patriots out.

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Patriots WR Brandon LaFell - "I'm Out of the Boot Now"

Word this offseason was that LaFell was spotted in a walking boot during OTA's, but it sounds like he's been making progress with whatever injury he was dealing with.

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Kraft and Goodell

wonder what it means wrt brady . But for NE fans...not what we wanted to see https://twitter.com/JGolden5/status/618915438794158080/photo/1 Jess Verified account?@JGolden5 Spotted together in #SunValley - NFL Commish Roger Goodell and Bob Kraft

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wonder what it means wrt brady . But for NE fans...not what we wanted to see

https://twitter.com/JGolden5/status/618915438794158080/photo/1

Jess Verified account?@JGolden5
Spotted together in #SunValley - NFL Commish Roger Goodell and Bob Kraft

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Post in thread 'Kraft and Goodell'

Jul 8, 2015

There's only one spin I can think of that's remotely plausible, namely:

"Bob, what do I need to do to make this problem go away."
"Roger, I'm known Tom all his adult life, and I can tell you this -- nothing short of a full exoneration will satisfy him. If you want to keep this out of Federal court, that's his bottom line."
"What if I cut the suspension to one game or something."
"Not good enough. Besides, that will just keep it in the news, especially in the run up to opening night."
"Damn. But you know I still have to fine him for not turning over his phone, don't you?"
"Sure. The...

• Fencer

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Jul 8, 2015

"Bob, what about your fanbase backlash to this meeting?..."

"no sweat Roger...the Patriots fans are nothing but total suckers and deserve whatever I deem appropriate in OUR quest to increase and maximize our profits. After all, those idiots think this is just a sports league run to entertain them. We know better. As long as we keep them in the dark and water them every Sunday, the mushrooms will continue sprouting up from our horsesh!t garden beds in ever increasing frequency..."

• Joker

Post in thread 'Kraft and Goodell'

Jul 8, 2015

There's only one spin I can think of that's remotely plausible, namely:

"Bob, what do I need to do to make this problem go away."
"Roger, I'm known Tom all his adult life, and I can tell you this -- nothing short of a full exoneration will satisfy him. If you want to keep this out of Federal court, that's his bottom line."
"What if I cut the suspension to one game or something."
"Not good enough. Besides, that will just keep it in the news, especially in the run up to opening night."
"Damn. But you know I still have to fine him for not turning over his phone, don't you?"
"Sure. The...

• ausbacker

Post in thread 'Kraft and Goodell'

Jul 8, 2015

This is pretty disgusting IMO.

At least Kraft could stop his ball washing until Roger renders a decision. Brady's reputation hangs in the balance and the guy orchestrating the Witch Hunt is hanging out with a guy who professes to support Brady who he says has never lied to him.

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July 8, 2016:

Patriots Fourth And Two Podcast: AFC East Preview

Patriots Fourth And Two Podcast: AFC East Preview Russ Goldman In this episode, we discussed and analyzed all the teams in the AFC East. Continue reading...

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Jul 8, 2016

Patriots Fourth And Two Podcast: AFC East Preview

Russ Goldman

In this episode, we discussed and analyzed all the teams in the AFC East.

Continue reading...

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Post in thread 'Patriots Fourth And Two Podcast: AFC East Preview'

Jul 12, 2016

Alright, so this horse has been beaten to death on Jet boards for six months. Wouldn't mind some Pat fan opinions.

Should the Jets sign Fitz?

Fyi, overall if money is not a factor, roughly 2/3s believe Fitz should start over Geno.

If money is a factor (which it obviously is), the magic number seems to be 7mil. If Fitz won't settle for 7mil, 2/3s believe it's best to roll with Geno.

I'm in the Geno camp. Even if Fitz will play for free. Though I'd love to have him as a backup since it sounds like Petty and Hack are no where near ready to play.

Now I never wanted to draft Geno...

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Post in thread 'Patriots Fourth And Two Podcast: AFC East Preview'

Jul 11, 2016

I think NE's defense will be good enough that it doesn't matter what changes any of the division teams have made. I know the games still have to be played and I expect tough games from both the Jets and Bills, but I still think we're just that much better.

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July 8, 2017:

Pittsburgh fans agitated at Brady... over this?

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/07/07/tom-brady-stanley-cup/?src=rss Brady gets a photo taken of him with the Stanley Cup. And they're all upset. :)

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Jul 8, 2017

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/07/07/tom-brady-stanley-cup/?src=rss

Brady gets a photo taken of him with the Stanley Cup. And they're all upset.

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Post in thread 'Pittsburgh fans agitated at Brady... over this?'

Jul 8, 2017

Thinnest skins of all sports fans. Lot of em where I live.

I was in line the other day and there's a big dude behind me wearing a "Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl Champion" t-shirt and hat. Ahem.

He's at least 20 years younger than me and has probably 30-40 lbs of muscle on me.

But even tho I've lived in the deep South for 25 years, you can never fully take away my Irish wiseass Boston street-fighting attitude. So I can't help myself.

I turn around and say," Been a while,huh?"

I might have accidentally also mentioned I'm a Pats fan.

Guy wants to fight me. Right there in the store. I...

• jimnance

Post in thread 'Pittsburgh fans agitated at Brady... over this?'

Jul 8, 2017

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/07/07/tom-brady-stanley-cup/?src=rss

Brady gets a photo taken of him with the Stanley Cup. And they're all upset.

Thanks @oldrover for posting this. I was surprised it took this long for someone to start one.
I was just plain lazy.

And I love that anyone connected to the Sqeelers and Tomlin are pissed. BB and TB own them all. What a great time to be alive!!

• Silver Blue&Red

Post in thread 'Pittsburgh fans agitated at Brady... over this?'

Jul 9, 2017

You can't blame the stanley cup for wanting to pose with Tom Brady.

• nabwong

Post in thread 'Pittsburgh fans agitated at Brady... over this?'

Jul 8, 2017

Well he does own pittsburgh so technically that trophy is partly his too.

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Post in thread 'Pittsburgh fans agitated at Brady... over this?'

Jul 9, 2017

I was in Pittsburgh for the game last October.

They absolutely hate the Patriots and blame them for their Super Bowl drought which I totally agree with. Brady is public enemy # 1 in Pittsburgh for obvious reasons.

They've had 3 chances to beat the Pats in the AFC title game, 2 of them at their place, and they couldn't even come close to getting the job done. They should be mad at their own team. Whiny, entitled, douchebags.. basically all Pittsburgh fans.

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More news from the 2010s​

July 8, 2018:
Former Patriot Brandon Browner is arrested by La Verne CA police (again), this time for breaking and entering into the residence of a woman with whom he once had a relationship, and then fleeing the scene after stealing a Rolex from within the home.

Two days later he was officially charged with attempted murder and three other felonies.


In December Browner would be sentenced to eight years in prison, after pleading no contest to the attempted murder charge.

A timeline of what we know about former Patriots cornerback Brandon Browner's attempted murder case

Browner allegedly assaulted and threatened to kill his ex-girlfriend over the weekend in La Verne, Calif.

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Brandon Browner was arrested Sunday, July 8, 2018, after police say he broke into the Southern California house of an ex-girlfriend who has a restraining order against him.​

Former Patriots cornerback Brandon Browner was charged with attempted murder on Tuesday after allegedly assaulting and threatening to kill his ex-girlfriend over the weekend in the Los Angeles suburb of La Verne, Calif. Browner, 33, won a Super Bowl in his only season with New England (2014). He is from nearby Pomona, Calif.​

Here’s a timeline of events that led up to Browner’s arraignment on Tuesday:​

■ In September 2017, Marin Foster, Browner’s ex-girlfriend and the mother of two of his children, files for a temporary restraining order against Browner. In her written application, Foster cites Browner as having assaulted her, broken her tailbone, busted her eardrum, and given her several black eyes. Foster also intimates Browner threatened to kill her, quoting him as saying, “Imma bust on you. Imma dangerous man.’’​

■ In October 2017, despite Foster’s claims, the court finds no basis on which to issue a permanent restraining order.​

■ On May 6, 2018, prosecutors allege Browner inflicted “unjustifiable physical pain and mental suffering’’ against a 2-year-old child, as well as using “force and violence’’ against Foster. The incident occurs in Pomona.​

■ Browner had five criminal cases filed against him between the court’s October ruling and the May 6 incident. On May 15, 2018, three of the five cases are dismissed.​

■ In June 2018, Browner pleads no contest in Los Angeles County Superior Court to misdemeanor charges of battery and cruelty to a child by inflicting injury. He receives one day in jail, three years of probation, 48 hours of community service, and an order to stay clear of the victim for three years.​

■ On July 8, 2018, at 10:07 a.m., Browner breaks into Foster’s home, per police reports. Someone noticed a man attempting to break through a locked window at the La Verne residence and promptly notified police.​

■ Prosecutors say once Browner was inside he threatened to kill Foster. Browner chased her, dragged her, and attempted to smother her in a carpet. Police also cite Browner as having “physically forced the victim back into her residence’’ when she tried to escape.​

■ Browner flees the scene before police arrive. He leaves carrying a Rolex watch valued at around $20,000.​

■ Browner is arrested hours later in Azusa, Calif., on suspicion of felony charges.​

■ Police reports from the scene indicate the victim held a restraining order against Browner, who had previously been arrested on suspicion of domestic violence.​

■ On July 10, 2018, Browner is indicted by the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office on four felony charges. In addition to the attempted murder charge, Browner is facing prison time on counts of felony robbery, burglary, and false imprisonment, along with two counts of child endangerment.​

■ Browner faces a maximum sentence of life in prison, per the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office. Browner’s arraignment will be continued on July 30. His bail is set at $10 million.​

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Tom Brady was on vacation up in Montana and the Pats QB has been pretty active with his Instagram account on social media. And the Brady clan had a spirited game of dodgeball with the QB even beaning his mom. But for the record, it appeared that his wife Gisele was the most active and accurate of all players out there.



Bleacher Report Story of Edelman Suspension Gets Patriots Fans Ire:

Mike Freeman knew what buttons to push…and he did it expertly. Julian Edelman is hardly the first player to be busted for PEDs and certainly won’t be the last, however, the latest Bleacher Report piece throws the thought out there that Edelman’s suspension should lead everyone to question whether we are watching an honest game.



By invoking that question it was sure to fire up the legion of Patriot haters out there, giving them all the excuses to slam down their Block House India Pale Ale and scream for asterisks. It also quickly inflamed the passions of the fan base here as they feel, Freeman is making a “Patriots-mountain” out of an anthill when he very subtly calls into question whether Edelman’s catch against the Falcons in the Super Bowl was legit.

There is a difference between the baseball steroid inflated home run era and NFL players getting caught up in the HGH testing while rehabbing from serious injuries. That includes Edelman and that he that “he that won’t be named” individual who couldn’t feel his fingertips after neck surgery. But perhaps not.

He did step over the line by injecting race into it, “white man in a black league” as if that had anything to do with anything other than to, once again, inflame both sides of the equation.

In a totally unrelated side to this, and maybe it is just the oversaturation this spring/summer of the talk of the Patriots’ issues inside the building, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the team may try to dangle #11 in a trade scenario this summer. With 2018 and 2019 remaining on his contract, at a pretty affordable cap hit, it wouldn’t be the strangest thing we’ve seen.

Unless of course, teams subscribe to Freeman’s take that many teams believe Edelman is an overrated product, and of others that he’s working with a system QB. Take your pick. We’ll see how that plays out.

2nd Year Player Deatrich Wise May Benefit from Clayborn’s Presence:

Trey Flowers has been mentioned quite often as the player most pundits believe to benefit the most from the addition of DE Adrian Clayborn this offseason. And that figures to be the team’s plans for third downs, having both of them on the field as much as possible on third down. But one player who could also benefit from Clayborn’s presence is 2nd year DE Deatrich Wise. . . . . .

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Edelman scenario funny(ish) but serious

After listening to WEEI I heard a few respected personalities say he should not go to court because he did "something." Fair enough. There was "something" in the sample. They can't say "masking agent, adderol, or whatever new steroid thing that looks enough like something banned to trigger a...

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After listening to WEEI I heard a few respected personalities say he should not go to court because he did "something." Fair enough.
There was "something" in the sample. They can't say "masking agent, adderol, or whatever new steroid thing that looks enough like something banned to trigger a positive" every time.
I also understand the two host sports talk radio format where 1 guy draws the short straw and has to argue a position that will generate calls. (Usually from Russ Golman. )
I also understand that radio hosting is not reporting.
Now for the funny part: Here is a scenario that...

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July 8, 2019:

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According to PFF, Jackson allowed only 22 receptions on 42 targets for a combined 262 yards as well as zero touchdowns to go along with his three picks

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What a difference a year makes. At this time last year, J.C. Jackson was an undrafted rookie cornerback from Maryland and a longshot to make the roster. But not only did he make the roster out of training camp but he developed into a starter opposite of Stephon Gilmore for the Patriots.​

After a very impressive spring and summer where he shined at training camp, Jackson played in only about 16 percent of the defensive snaps for the first nearly three-quarters of the season. But from Week 12 onwards, he played in nearly 80 percent of the defensive snaps, starting in both the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl where the Patriots held the Rams to just three points.​

In the last several years, Jackson is the third CB plucked by the Patriots as an UDFA to become a starter or regular contributor. Malcolm Butler in 2014 and Jonathan Jones in 2016 before him also were undrafted.​

He shined in man coverage and was able to stick with and mirror opposing wide receivers. He also has shown extremely good ball skills with three interceptions and six passes defensed. As we have seen countless times, covering the opponent is one thing. But having the awareness and skills when the ball is in the air is another. Jackson has been able to do that.​

Who's the best first-round pick in Patriots history?

Who's the best 1st-round pick in Pats history? "Even well before Bill Belichick took over the football operation in 2000, for those of us who far too often leave that period of time out of big-picture conversations, there are franchise-altering first-rounders who made their way to New England...

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"Even well before Bill Belichick took over the football operation in 2000, for those of us who far too often leave that period of time out of big-picture conversations, there are franchise-altering first-rounders who made their way to New England. Pro Football Hall of Famers. Team Hall of Famers."

"Then once the page was turned on this millennium, Belichick and his staff added to the list of all-time first-rounders. Today's Great Patriots Debate asks, simply, who's the best first-round pick in franchise history? There are loads of...

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Bill Belichick. Mic drop - End of thread.

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That's a quite an impressive list.

I'm biased but my vote goes for good 'ole Drew Bledsoe. It's a nostalgia pick b/c he is the reason I even became a football fan in the first place (I was a middle school kid who had only followed the NBA at that point).

My obsession went from the Celtics to the Patriots. For those who want to call me a bandwagoner, just know that the height of my Celtics fandom was when they were their absolute worst.

I was too young for the Bird and the Big Three......'my Celtics' were Dee Brown, Sherman Douglass, Dino Radja, Eric Montross, Nervous Pervis, and Dana...

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Jul 8, 2019

# 73
I have a Red Throwback Hannah jersey too

2nd Drew Bledsoe

3rd Mc Ginest

• italian pat patriot

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Mike Haynes was an excellent pick

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First round pick implies that it was used in the draft, the pick for BB probably doesn't qualify, but if it does then that is the best pick.

Hannah was the best player, most assuredly the starting guard on the NFL's all time team.

Without Richard Seymour the Pats don't win any rings from 2001-2004, the team was woefully weak along the defensive line in those early days and he was dominant at the biggest position of need. That he was money hungry and finally forced his way out bothers a lot of people but the guy is starting on the NFL's all decade team. He should be in both Hall Of Fames...

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Oooh. Tough question. A case can be made for many on the list. I picked Ty Law because of his incredible play against Peyton Manning in the playoffs in 2001 and 2003, and for his INT returned for a touchdown in the Super Bowl in 2001. His play in those games lead directly to our first two Super Bowl rings.

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I think you have to look at who is going to Canton. Hannah and Law are already there, essentially. Seymour should be, likely will be. High, Willie, MCcourty all are nice players and certainly red jacket worthy, but probably not going to Canton. Same for Big Vince and Mankins. Only one of them were considered the best ever at their position, so that's the winner. Hannah.

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Hannah. No doubt about it. Man wish he could be playing right now. Of course I say that to myself every 10 years so he would have to be a robot lol. The fact I think that every 10 years shows how dominant the Pats have been.

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On offense: John Hannah

On defense: Mike Haynes...he'd still be an All-Pro today...what a player...

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Jul 9, 2019

wait...wha?...no Tony "Champagne" Eason on this list?...outrageous!

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Jul 9, 2019

1st Place 1977 combo of Raymond Clayborn and Stanley Morgan.
2nd Place 1973 trio of Hannah, Cunnignham and Stingley.
3rd Place 1994 Willie McGinest

Remember when the Pats could draft? Those were good times.

• denverpatsfan

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Jul 9, 2019

3. Dominique Easley
2. The Next One
1. Some combination of draft picks in a trade down

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In terms of immediate impact? Terry Glenn and it's not even close.

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Wilfork. Completely Dominant player until the ACL at the end of his career He was a HOF caliber player for 10 years, with SB rings on both ends. He should be in Canton when the time comes.

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Jul 10, 2019

Always difficult to make comparisons over different times in the NFL... I have to go with Hannah as he was just that dominant for along period of time.. but there there are Haynes, Law and McGinnest to consider as well..

A better what to phrase this would be to do this by decade.. for example, best 1st round draft pick of the 60's, 70's etc.

The difference is when we pick, higher expectations for a lower first round pick??

John Hannah pick #4 in 1973
Haynes pick #5 in 1976
Bledsoe pick #1 in 1993
McGinnest pick #4 in 1994
Law pick #25 in 1995
Seymour #6 in 2001
Wilfork #21 in 2004...

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I’ve always wondered who Belichick would prefer in their primes between Seymour and Wilfork. It may not be as obvious as it seems.

I want Wonder Woman to kidnap BB, tie him up with her rope so I can ask him a bunch of questions.

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News from this decade​

July 8, 2020:

Antonio Brown at it again

Antonio Brown just shared a very cryptic Instagram photo Ugh, here we go again.

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Antonio Brown just shared a very cryptic Instagram photo

Ugh, here we go again.

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AB crossed the line when he made veiled threats to send his homey's over to tune up a woman and her kids.

There was no way the Pats were going to put up with him after that...PERIOD.
How do you AB apologists not get that?

AB can eat a bag of ****s, die of syphilis, and smoke a turd in hell after that reprehensible episode.

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Jul 10, 2020

Reiss usually is pretty good about hedging with phrases like "they are exploring all possibilities" or "they are always looking to improve the team". His tone here is pretty definite though. Sounds like some off the record info shining through.

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Jul 19, 2020

And another post. Cam newton approves with his “love” reply

So Tom stopped "loving" those AB posts and Cam has started.

That's cool how we're all in junior high school now.

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and the league gets through punishing him!

That would've happened already, if the Early Bird had the minerals to call the league's bluff...

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Rex Burkhead restructures contract with Patriots, takes pay cut to free up salary cap space.

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July 8, 2021:

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New England Patriots news and NFL Notes for Thursday 7/8.

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1) Tom Curran spoke recently with Andy Gresh and Rich Keefe in an interview with WEEI and talked about the Stephon Gilmore situation, and he believes that a resolution should happen at some point during training camp.

Curran makes the argument that Gilmore is a critical piece of New England’s defense at a time where Bill Belichick is trying to turn things around coming off of a 7-9 season. He points out that Gilmore is a big key to their success this year and he believes they’ll figure it out before the regular season.

“The interesting thing too, though, is, at 69-years old and coming off a 7-9 season, and I’ve said this before, does Belichick really want to draw lines in the sand with his best defensive player, or actually, most important defensive player and possibly the most important player on this team?” said Curran. “He has to win this year for a variety of reasons – Not “has to’, I mean what’s going to happen if he doesn’t? He’s still the greatest coach of all time – but the point I’m making is, for Bill Belichick’s team to succeed, he needs to sign Gilmore.” . . . . .

2) Another topic of conversation that came up in the same interview was what will happen if they don’t have Gilmore in the fold.

Curran talked a bit about J.C. Jackson, who he believes is a good player but nowhere near the level that Gilmore obviously is. He believes that on one hand, they need a top lockdown corner to reach a championship level but when it comes to someone like Jackson, if he eventually moves on, Belichick’s history has been pretty solid at bringing in guys who they can be successful with. . . . . .

3) Meanwhile, much of the talk coming out of minicamp centered around how impressive kicker Quinn Nordin was as he tries to potentially unseat Nick Folk for the job.

Folk, who tested free agency and returned on a one-year deal back in March, is coming off a solid year with the team after missing just two field goals all season. The veteran was a perfect 13/13 from 20-39yds, 11/12 from 40-49yds and 2/3 from 50+. But what Folk has lacked in the past has been range on long kicks, which Nordin appears to have. Most reports coming out of minicamps and OTAs was how the ball was “exploding” off his foot and the incredible amount of power he’s shown so far. . . . . .

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Kyle Shanahan details play-calling regret in Falcons’ Super Bowl LI loss to Patriots

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I'd like to also buy real estate in Shanny Jr's head.

Jesus it's a wonder the man can sleep at night.

At this point he's kind of a choke job as a coach.

Bad play calling vs us

Bad game management vs KC in the SB.

Yep, but in his defense, it comes down to execution. If they make a play nobody questions it. Its only questioned when its not executed. Its like the 4th and 2. If that ball is not bobbled, Bill is a genius, but because it was, it was a suspect call. Coaches can hover between the genius and idiot if plays are executed or not.

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The decision to use Ryan is completely defensible. Neither team had a good rush attack that night. It was a battle of the quarterbacks for the whole game with both sides only really using their pass catching RBs for most part. We used White, they used Devonta Freeman

The problem with using the running game effectively in the Superbowl is that both teams had excellent front 7s. leGarritte Blount for all his faults is a decent power runner and he got humiliated. We put their big RB on his butt a couple times too. The possession game just wasn't there for either team and both teams had...

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July 8, 2022:

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Most New England Patriots fans saw this coming at some point, but according to reports, Patriots owner Robert Kraft has been nominated for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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– Most New England Patriots fans saw this coming at some point, but according to reports, Patriots owner Robert Kraft has been nominated for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The 81-year owner is reportedly among 29 semifinalists for enshrinement in 2023, with the vote set to take place later this month on 7/27. If he’s selected, he would join 15 other team owners currently enshrined in Canton, with Jerry Jones last earning the honor in 2017. Kraft purchased the team in 1994 and saw his team reach the Super Bowl just two seasons later, although they came up just short against the Green Bay Packers in that first appearance. They’ve since gone on to play in 9 more, winning six of them and he made the controversial decision to hire Bill Belichick as head coach in 2000, which has gone on to become one of the key moves he’s made during his tenure.

– Yesterday was the anniversary of N’Keal Harry seeing his agent release a statement looking to get his client dealt last offseason. “For the past several months, I have been working in cooperation with the Patriots behind the scenes to put a plan in place to allow N’Keal to thrive in New England,” wrote Tooson via ESPN. “Through two seasons, he has 86 targets, which obviously hasn’t met the expectations the Patriots and N’Keal had when they drafted a dominant downfield threat who was virtually unstoppable at the point of attack in college. Following numerous conversations with the Patriots, I believe it’s time for a fresh start and best for both parties if N’Keal moves on before the start of training camp. That is why I have informed the Patriots today I am formally requesting a trade on behalf of my client. N’Keal understands a key ingredient to production is opportunity. He will continue to work hard to develop and refine his craft after missing a large portion of his rookie year to injury. His draft-day expectations for his NFL career have not changed. We are confident success is just around the corner for him and will aggressively pursue it.”

– The Patriots clearly ignored it, with Harry remaining on the roster last season. Re-reading the statement is still ridiculous, especially when you go back and look at the mistakes and miscues from a player who had to be directed by a rookie quarterback after seeing him line up in the wrong spot , as well as being one of the last guys off the line among his peers. Tom Curran also later chastised Harry for his work ethic, which he said reflected poorly for a player blaming others for his shortcomings. “I watched him in Tennessee when the Patriots had joint practices down there,” said Curran. “After he finished lifting, he walked out on the field, the teams are practicing on three fields, two teams, and I’m watching N’Keal Harry first-round wide receiver barefoot walking around, trying to find someplace to bide his time, tossing a ball up in the air. Meanwhile, the ones are going full bore with Tom Brady throwing to Braxton Berrios and Danny Etling and whatever other scrabini was down there against the ones of the Tennessee Titans. And you have your first-round wide receiver pick, wandering barefoot looking for something to do.” Needless to say, hopefully, this will be Harry’s final training camp with the club and since the cap savings is greater if they are able to trade him for something, let’s hope he’s productive this preseason for the sake of making that happen.

– This week was also the anniversary of Mac Jones agreeing to terms with the team, with Jones agreeing to a four-year, $15.6 million deal that was fully guaranteed and included an $8.7 million signing bonus at this time last offseason. Jones got off to a fast start last spring, showing tremendous accuracy during the team’s OTAs and that set the stage for a training camp competition that ultimately saw Jones ultimately come out on top ahead of Cam Newton. After spending the offseason getting stronger, Jones looks poised to take a step forward, which is going to be fun to watch in the coming months.

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"The Patriots will only go as far as Mac will take them"? Oh, I disagree heavily with that statement. They got wiped out by the Bills in the playoffs. That wasn't because of Mac. That was because of the defense. And they refused to upgrade the D in the draft and free agency and lost key contributors like Van Noy and JC Jackson. Also they're betting the farm on a bunch of unproven and injury-prone guys at LB.

The Pats will only go as far as their D will take them.

Also, stay away from sport talk radio. Your mental health will thank you.

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Pats sign Cam Newton​

July 8, 2020:
Patriots sign Cam Newton to a one-year, $1.75 million contract, to compete with Jarrett Stidham and Brian Hoyer as starting quarterback for the Pats' first post-Tom Brady season.

Patriots Sign QB Cam Newton

The New England Patriots officially announced the signing of veteran QB Cam Newton.

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Newton, 31, is a veteran of nine NFL seasons with the Carolina Panthers. The 6-foot-5, 245-pounder was selected by Carolina in the first round with the first overall pick of the 2011 NFL Draft out of Auburn. He was released by the Panthers on March 24, 2020.​

Newton started 124 of the 125 regular-season games he played for the Panthers and completed 2,371 of his 3,980 passes for 29,041 yards with 182 touchdowns and 108 interceptions. His 4,806 rushing yards are third in NFL history among quarterbacks, behind the 6,109 by Mike Vick and the 4,928 by Randall Cunningham and his 58 rushing touchdowns are the most ever by an NFL quarterback. He established the NFL record for most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in a single season with 14 in 2011, breaking Patriots Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Grogan's previous NFL record of 12 which he set in 1976. Newton is the only player in NFL history to have at least six seasons with 3,000 or more passing yards and 500 or more rushing yards at any point in his career. Newton and Peyton Manning are the only two players in NFL history to have at least 3,000 passing yards in each of their first eight seasons.​

Newton has also started in seven postseason games and has completed 134-of-224 passes for 1,821 yards with 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He was limited to two games with Carolina in 2019 due to injury.​

He was named the 2010 Heisman Trophy winner as a junior and will be the sixth Heisman recipient to suit up for the Patriots in team history, joining RB Joe Bellino (1960 - Navy), QB John Huarte (1964 - Notre Dame), QB Jim Plunkett (1970 - Stanford), QB Doug Flutie (1984 - Boston College) and QB Vinny Testaverde (1986 - Miami). Newton, who was named the 2015 NFL Most Valuable Player after leading the Panthers to the NFC Championship and a Super Bowl 50 appearance, is a three-time Pro Bowl player (2011, 2013 and 2015). He was also named the Associated Press Rookie of the Year in 2011.​

Cam Newton signing a one-year deal with the Patriots

The Patriots have agreed to a one-year contract with quarterback Cam Newton, a person with knowledge of the deal told The Associated Press. The one-year deal is worth up to $7.5 million with incentives, the person said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to...

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The Patriots had been heading to training camp with Stidham, a 2019 fourth-round draft pick, as the heir apparent to Brady. Stidham appeared in three games last season, completing two passes for 14 yards with one interception.​

Patriots signing Cam Newton to 1-year deal

Newton’s deal is reportedly worth up to $7.5 million.

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At the time I was angry at not only how the Patriots had completely botched the transition at QB (Jimmy Garoppolo being traded away for virtually nothing in return), but also simultaneously letting Tom Brady walk away - in this case, with literally nothing in return. To me the signing of Newton was a brilliant move - if for no other reason other than his having light years more potential than the unproven Stidham, or the ancient Hoyer. Signing Cam Newton was a no-brainer in my eyes, given the circumstances at that moment.

As it turned out, the Patriots would have been better off letting 2020 be a reset year, bottoming out with Jarrett Stidham and Brian Hoyer - which is exactly what they did in 2023 and 2024, except with Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe and Jacoby Brissett.

The article below articulates how I felt back in 2020 - though I was far more cautious in my optimism in comparison to the writer's prognosis.

The Patriots Have Cam Newton. The Rest of the NFL Let It Happen.

New England is replacing Tom Brady with a QB who just five years ago was the most dominant player on the planet. What comes next?

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New England is replacing Tom Brady with a QB who just five years ago was the most dominant player on the planet. What comes next?

The Never-ending Dynasty has a smiling new face. The Patriots lost their Hall of Fame quarterback this offseason, but somehow have replaced him with an MVP. New England reached an agreement to sign Cam Newton on Sunday, putting one of the most dynamic players of the last decade on the most dominant team of the past two decades.​

It seemed impossible that New England would simply fade into irrelevance after 20 years of Tom Brady. It also seemed impossible that Newton would simply disappear after winning just about every award that a football player could win between his 2010 Heisman Trophy at Auburn and his 2015 NFL MVP with the Carolina Panthers. Now, neither of those things has to happen. With Newton, the Patriots will be heavily favored to win the AFC East for the 12th consecutive season; with the Patriots, Newton will have a chance to prove that he’s still got some Superman left in him.​

Newton’s contract is reportedly an “incentive-laden” one-year deal worth up to $7.5 million. That’s a low-risk, high-reward proposition for both parties. You can almost imagine a split-screen telecast with Bill Belichick sitting at home watching game tape of Jarrett Stidham on one side and Newton sitting at home realizing he needs to play somewhere on the other. Both would pick up their phones simultaneously. For all the talk about Stidham’s prospects over the past few months, it seems unlikely that the fourth-round draft pick who has thrown four career NFL passes will challenge Newton in a quarterback competition. Reference the Auburn résumés of both players if you need help. Belichick’s dog could just as easily pick the starter.​

Even so, there are plenty of reasons why this pairing might not work. While Newton once seemed so indestructible that the closest comparison for him was a superhero who can only be defeated by a fictional mineral from a faraway galaxy, he has recently started to show signs of wear, presumably from a playing style built around powering through opponents. He suffered season-ending injuries in both 2018 and 2019. In his last eight games in Carolina, the Panthers went 0-8 while Newton threw more interceptions than touchdowns.​

Meanwhile, the Patriots have never won big without Brady, and their dynastic reputation obscures a roster that may not put Newton in a great position to succeed. The Pats arguably have the worst receiving corps in the league, with 34-year-old Julian Edelman, 30-year-old Mohamed Sanu, and struggling youngster N’Keal Harry topping the depth chart. Something called a “Matt LaCosse” is their top tight end. Sure, Newton was a one-man force at his peak: None of his Auburn teammates went on to succeed in the NFL, and he made the Super Bowl with a team that started Corey “Philly” Brown at receiver. But Newton has logged a lot of miles, and might not be capable of singlehandedly carrying his supporting casts anymore.​

But still, THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS ARE SIGNING CAM NEWTON. The Pats and Newton long seemed like they existed in separate football worlds: New England was the dynasty whose super-secret system kept it in contention year after year after year; Newton was the superstar who didn’t need a damn system to get to the Super Bowl. Now, the two are together, Superman playing The Patriot Way. It’s an outcome that would make you quit your Madden franchise.​

Newton winding up on the Patriots feels like another instance of Belichick outsmarting the rest of the league, adding to a 20-year file of finding draft steals, turning retreads into rebirths, and taking advantage of surprise loopholes. But this isn’t just about the Patriots. Thirty-one teams had the chance to sign Newton after the Panthers unceremoniously cut him in March, just five years removed from him being the best player in the sport. It’s baffling that until now nobody was even willing to take a flyer on him. It’s not like Cam is ancient—he just turned 31! Russell Wilson is older. Incidentally, 31 is the number of teams that decided they didn’t want him.​

Even if Newton hits all his incentives and makes $7.5 million, he’ll still make less than the average annual salaries of some backups. This offseason, the Bears, Saints, and Raiders agreed to pay more to Nick Foles, Taysom Hill, and Marcus Mariota, respectively. Those teams got backup quarterbacks; the Pats got Cam Newton.​

The Patriots are gambling that Newton can look like the QB who once was the most dominant player on the planet. Every other NFL team made the riskier gamble by deciding that giving a small contract to a potential superhero wasn’t worth it.​

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Today in Patriots History
Obscure Pats with post-NFL Success​

July 8 is not much of a day for Patriots birthdays, with all past and present Pats players combining for all of 57 games played - with 27 of those games coming from current players in the last two seasons.


Going through these Pats history pieces, I am always happy to find that so many former players went on to have successful careers after hanging up their cleats. Today's oldie birthdays are good examples, even if the two former Patriots are indeed relatively obscure in regards to their feats on the gridiron.


Happy 57th birthday to Mickey Washington
Born July 8, 1968 in Galveston, Texas
Patriots CB, 1990-1991; uniform #21
Signed off the Colts' practice squad on October 30, 1990

The speedy 5'9 corner was selected in the 8th round, 199th overall by the Phoenix Cardinals in 1990. He did not make the week one roster and was available until Baltimore signed him to their practice squad on October 2. After the Patriots released RB Don Overton in late October, they signed the former Texas A&M Aggie, and he appeared in nine games for New England that season. In 1991 Washington appeared in all 16 games for the Patriots with four starts and two picks. He was cut near the end of training camp in 1992, picked up by Pittsburgh, but released again before the start of the season.

Mickey Washington had two interceptions and 73 tackles in 25 games during his two years with the New England Patriots.


The Texas A&M graduate persevered, spending eight years in the NFL. He also played for Washington, Buffalo, Jacksonville and New Orleans, with three years as a starter – one of which was with the Bills (when he started in Super Bowl 28), and two with the Jaguars, from ’94-’96. After his NFL career ended Washington earned his law degree, and founded his own practice in Texas, focusing on labor and employment law. Mickey Washington also served on the executive committee for the National Football League Players Association.

Nov 14, 1993:

WASHINGTON FINDS HIS NICHE WITH BILLS VAGABOND DEFENSIVE BACK IS ON THE MONEY IN NICKEL COVERAGE OR ON CORNER

WHEN CORNERBACK Mickey Washington finished his workout as a free agent in the bubble at Rich Stadium last winter, Buffalo Bills executives and coaches were left scratching their heads and

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Attorneys

Mickey L. Washington is a native of Port Arthur and Beaumont, Texas. He is the founder of Washington & Associates, PLLC, a law firm with core values in commitment, excellence and integrity drive success. Mr. Washington handles personal injury litigation, labor and employment litigation; and...

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Feb 28, 2012:

Texas Aggie Bar Association - Are You Ready For Some Football? - Interview with Mickey Washington of Washington & Ernster, PLLC

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Mickey Washington Elected To Serve On NFLPA Executive Committee

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Mickey Washington - Harvard Football Players Health Study

Mickey Washington played with five teams over the span of an eight-season career with the NFL, playing cornerback for the New England Patriots, Washington Redskins, Buffalo Bills, Jacksonville Jaguars, and New Orleans Saints. During his career in the NFL, Washington served as a union...

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Today in Patriots History
Obscure Pats with post-NFL Success​

Happy 54th birthday to Jeff Kopp
Born July 8, 1971 in Danville, California
Patriots LB, 1999; uniform #91
Signed as a free agent on October 27, 1999

Jeff Kopp was a sixth round draft pick by Miami in 1995, out of USC. He primarily played on special teams, appearing in 63 games with three starts over his five year NFL career. After a rash of injuries decimated the Pats linebacking corps to the point that safeties were forced to fill in at linebacker, Pete Carroll signed Kopp in late October of '99. He appeared in six games for the Patriots, with two tackles.

In his post-NFL life Kopp worked as an investment advisor, as a steer wrestler on the professional rodeo circuit, and as a bicycle shop owner. Kopp then became a high school football head coach in Jacksonville, through 2017. Since 2018 Jeff has been Director of Prison Ministry at The Church of Eleven22 and Campus Chaplain at Department of Corrections Prison in Jacksonville.

October 27, 1999: "Jeff Kopp, the newest member of the Pats depleted linebacking corps."


October 27, 1999: Newly acquired linebacker Jeff Kopp at far left, joins linebackers Tedy Bruschi and Andy Katzenmoyer at practice.​

Patriots bring LB Kopp aboard

FOXBORO — Jeff Kopp was asked Wednesday what it felt like to be an unemployed linebacker one minute, and a possible starter for a Super Bowl contender the next.

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PATS SIGN KOPP, WHO MIGHT START

As one of the newest models to roll off the Ohio State football factory assembly line, there is an air of disbelief as Andy Katzenmoyer ponders the Patriots’ depth at linebacker. What depth? “In college,” Katzenmoyer…

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Patriots Kopp a new linebacker

FOXBORO -- Jeff Kopp was cut by the Baltimore Ravens, failed a tryout with the lowly Atlanta Falcons and was unemployed for three weeks. On Sunday, he could be starting at linebacker for the New En…

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Jeff Kopp | San Ramon Valley High School Athletic Hall of Fame

‘The NFL doesn’t owe me anything’

A former linebacker who was suing pro football explains why he’s now satisfied with what the league is doing to prevent concussions and care for its players.

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Providence promotes former Jaguar Jeff Kopp to head football coach

Providence parted ways with its football coach Thursday and filled the vacancy the same afternoon. Former Jaguars linebacker Jeff Kopp accepted the Stallions head coaching position after the progra…

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The Life of a Coach's Wife: Alycia Kopp - ITG Next

Alycia Kopp Q: What is your role with the team? Do you let your husband do his thing, or are you hands-on with the team? A: My most important role is supporting him. I do whatever I can to support him and whatever he needs, and yes, I’m very involved, but in an ‘on the […]

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Providence, football coach Jeff Kopp part ways

Providence became the sixth school in the area to change football coaches this offseason when it parted ways with Jeff Kopp. Kopp spent four seasons as Providence’s head coach and went 17-22 in tha…

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Today in Patriots History
More July 8 Frivolities​

Happy 37th birthday to Christian Yount
Born July 8, 1988 in San Pedro, California
Patriots LS, 2016 offseason; uniform #42
Signed as a veteran free agent on April 22, 2016

Patriots sign Tony Steward, Christian Yount

The Bills waived linebacker Tony Steward this week, but the 2015 sixth-round pick wasn't out of work for long.

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Yount spent parts of four seasons with the Browns and also played seven games for the Buccaneers in 2011. He’s played in 60 games altogether, although none came in 2015 as Yount was out of the NFL last year. Joe Cardona was the Patriots long snapper last year and remains on the roster.​

From 2011 to 2014, Christian Yount had been the Cleveland Browns’ long snapper. He appeared in 53 games for them and signed a five-year contract extension in August 2013. Two years into that deal the Browns released Yount, on May 29, 2015.

Yount did not find a new home for almost a year; until the Patriots signed the veteran in late-April 2016, he was unemployed. The Patriots signed him to a one-year minimum deal with a $600,000 salary and no guaranteed money.

Yount’s job prospects in Foxboro depended entirely on one person: second-year player Joe Cardona, who was the team’s long snapper the previous season. If Cardona was able to get a leave from his duties with the Navy, then Yount would have no future in New England.

Had Cardona not been eligible to play in 2016, then Yount would have been the player to replace him. Sure enough Cardona was granted a leave - and the 27-year old Yount was released on July 21, 2016.

Patriots release LB C.J. Johnson and LS Christian Yount

The Patriots first day of training camp is a week away and already the team is making roster moves. On Thursday, the team released undrafted rookie linebacker C.J. Johnson and long snapper Christian …

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Yount was signed as a free agent on April 22. The four-year NFL veteran was signed in case Patriots’ long snapper Joe Cardona would have to fulfill his military obligation and report to the Navy.​

As it turns out, Cardona will be able to play in his second NFL season, which has led to the release of the team’s second long snapper.​

Happy 41st birthday to Jake Nordin
Born July 8, 1984 in Lake Lillian, Minnesota
Patriots TE, 2007 offseason; uniform #xx
Signed as an undrafted rookie free agent on May 8, 2007

RFAs on radar

Northern Illinois tight end Jake Nordin set to join Pats as a rookie free agent.

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Now that the draft has concluded, the Patriots will turn their attention to signing rookie free agents.​

The Daily Chronicle reports today that Northern Illinois tight end Jake Nordin has agreed to join the Patriots.​

Nordin is a 6-foot-3 3/8, 258-pound prospect who was known more for his blocking than pass-catching at Northern Illinois.​

Nordin signs contract with New England Patriots

The New England Patriots made one of the splashiest moves during this weekend’s NFL Draft by acquiring wide receiver Randy Moss from the Oakland Raiders for a fourth-round pick.

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The New England Patriots made one of the splashiest moves during this weekend’s NFL Draft by acquiring wide receiver Randy Moss from the Oakland Raiders for a fourth-round pick.​

While the Moss trade grabbed plenty of headlines Sunday, New England added another pass catcher with Minnesota ties.​

Atwater-Cosmos-Grove City graduate Jake Nordin signed a free agent contract with the Patriots.​

“He’s ecstatic,” Jake’s father Rick Nordin said. “It’s incredibly cool. I’m so proud of him. (Playing in the NFL) has been Jake’s focus since a young age. That’s all he’s wanted to do. He has put in the time and effort for it to become a reality. At this point, we’re all still numb. It will sink in more as he gets going.”​

Nordin, a 6-foot, 3-inch, 262-pound tight end from Northern Illinois University, received indications from the Seattle Seahawks that he would be their seventh-round pick Sunday.​

When Seattle took Steve Vallos, an offensive lineman from Wake Forest with its final pick, Nordin’s hopes of being drafted were dashed.​

About an hour after the draft, as many as a dozen teams called indicating interest in signing Nordin as a free agent. After some discussion with his agent, Nordin decided New England was the best fit.​

Nordin caught 54 passes for 542 yards in 37 career games at NIU, but his draft stock dropped after he injured his ankle against Ball State and missed the last five games of his senior year.​

Nordin will report to mini-camp in Foxboro, Mass., on May 11 with hopes of making the Patriots roster or practice squad.​

Rookie deals

QB Matt Gutierrez lands highest signing bonus among Patriots' rookie free agents.

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Of the seven rookie free agents who signed with the Patriots following the NFL draft, five inked three-year deals and two inked two-year deals.​

Players with higher signing bonuses likely had multiple teams bidding on their services (e.g. last year, linebacker Freddie Roach received a $15,000 signing bonus from the Patriots, who outbid other clubs).​

The breakdown:​

DB Larry Anam — 2 years, $4,000 signing bonus​

LB Kyle Bissinger — 3 years, $1,500 signing bonus​

QB Matt Gutierrez — 2 years, $10,000 signing bonus​

TE Jake Nordin — 3 years, $5,000 signing bonus​

RB Quinton Smith — 3 years, $3,000 signing bonus​

LB Justin Warren — 3 years, $5,000 signing bonus​

DL Zach West — 3 years, $8,000 signing bonus​

The Patriots waived Nordin on July 19, 2007 when they signed 14-year veteran Chad Brown, the former Pittsburgh Steeler linebacker. Between 2007 and 2010 Nordin spent time with Washington, the Giants, Ravens, Lions, Vikings and Lions again. He played in five NFL games with one start, two receptions and two tackles.

Jake Nordin - Football - NIU Athletics

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Meet Our Team - First State Agency

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Jake is Vice President and a Producer for First State Agency. Jake started working with First State Agency in 2013 and specializes in Home, Auto, Life, Health and Small Business. Jake believes in getting to know his clients and providing the options which best benefits the clients’ needs. Customer service is a top priority for his clients.​

Jake graduated from Northern Illinois University with a degree in Corporate Communications and minor in Business Management. Jake was a 3 years starter for the Northern Illinois University football team as a Tight End. Jake also played in the NFL from 2007-2012, playing with the Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, and finishing his career in the UFL with the Las Vegas Locos. In 2011 Jake received the United Way Player of the Year award while with the Lions.​

Jake makes his home in Sioux Falls, and married his best friend, Jaclyn, in 2012. Jake is a member of the Sioux Falls Chamber of Commerce and is still active in coaching/teaching the area youth the game of football.​

When Jake is not at the office, he enjoys working out, fishing, traveling, and cruising the lakes of SD, MN and IA with his Wife Jaclyn and their daughter, Brittlyn.​

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Happy 28th birthday to Javon Patterson
Born July 8, 1997 in Petal, Mississippi

On April 27, 2019 the Patriots traded up four spots, sending a fifth round draft pick (#167 overall) and a seventh (#246) to Philadelphia for the Eagles fifth round pick, #163. The Patriots used 5.163 on punter Jake Bailey; 7.146 was traded to the Colts who used it on Javon Peterson, a center from Ole Miss.

Peterson was with the Colts, Giants, Browns and Broncos. He appeared in one NFL game, for Indy in 2020.




In memory of Tommy Mason, who would have turned 86 today
Born July 8, 1939 in Lake Charles, Louisiana
Died January 22, 2015 at the age of 75 in Newport Beach, California
Boston Patriots 1st round (3rd overall) pick of the 1961 AFL draft, from Tulane

I guess the Patriots were optimistically shooting for the moon ahead of their second season as a pro football franchise. While the AFL did have an advantage by holding their draft before the NFL did, being less established meant that the AFL teams were less likely to be able to sign big time college football stars. The Patriots selected Mason, a running back from Tulane with the third overall pick of the draft. A month later the NFL held their draft, and the Minnesota Vikings took Mason with the first overall pick.

Mason signed with the Vikings, and was named to three consecutive Pro Bowls. Over the course of 11 seasons he scored 45 touchdowns and was in the top-ten in rushing four times. He was married to Cathy Rigby, who helped popularize gymnastics in the United States after her performance in the 1968 summer Olympics. Rigby reached greater fame as an actress, reprising the lead role in Peter Pan, which she played for more than thirty years.

Tommy Mason dies at 75; NFL running back with Vikings, Rams

Tommy Mason, an NFL running back who was the first draft pick in Minnesota Vikings history and later played four seasons with the Los Angeles Rams, has died.

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Today in New England Football History
July 8​

Other players with New England area connections sharing this birth date:

- Charlie Stewart (7/8/90-12/18/65); this native of western Mass was a guard in the early days of the NFL, before figuring out there were better jobs for someone with a degree from Colgate.

- Phil McGeoghan, 46 (7/8/79);
born and raised in Agawam, went to Boston University and then Maine after BU stopped playing football.
Phil played with Denver and New Orleans in the NFL, as well as one season with NFL Europe. He has been a position coach for several colleges and NFL teams, including the Dolphins, Bills and Chargers as a WR coach.

24 Hours with WR Coach Phil McGeoghan

Go behind the scenes with rarely granted access to join the wide receivers on the field and in the meeting room during training camp.

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Agawam native and NFL coach Phil McGeoghan launches racial justice project to heal divisions

The Los Angeles Chargers coach wants to be an advocate for fairness and justice.

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From the way-back machine:

- Bob McClure (7/8/24-4/17/1999);
a third round pick by the Boston Yanks in 1946, 'Buster' was a lineman who played in 22 games for Boston in 1947-48.

- Art Faircloth (7/8/21-4/1/2010);
another Boston Yank, but not quite as highly regarded: Art was selected in the 19th round, 197th overall in 1944. The back played in five games in '47-'48.