PostGame Thread 2023 PostGame Thread: Week 13 - Patriots Lose to Chargers 6-0

[mgteich]

No way any coach from this team is in this building next season.
You hire a real GM get a hc who is willing to build a coaching staff based on best man available not who was on his friends and family plan.

right
We have the worst Offense in football. and your solution is to fire ALL the coaches, including those who have brought us a fiune Defense (especially with Judon and Gonzalez out).

 

[Rob0729]

With the SOS records that close, it could change over the course of the rest of the year. Really doesn't mean anything at this point.

 

[Ian]

 

[UGAPatsfan]

They don't get to half those super bowls without Bill, I get it, the team sucks, not fun to watch and its ruining our Sundays but lets give the man his due.

4 years of ass, and a (reported) $80 million in salary over that span, I’d say he’s all square.

 

[Triumph]

I don’t know how Kraft doesn’t trade/fire Belichick after this ridiculous and embarrassing loss at home (never mind the other debacles against poor teams)what a sh!t show….why wait until the end of the year?! Do something NOW….

Because it appears more and more that Kraft hand picked Jones.

This was his breakout year.

 

[FCB02062]

Begs the question I don’t want to ask…after the first two, is possible BB COST Tom MORE superbowls?

we'll never know but I suspect discussion about said topic will get the ire of a certain cadre of IBWT fools on Patsfans

 

[sb1]

 

[Uptown]

 

[Triumph]

Or rain slicker,,,,

Free Mac is another one.

 

[Uptown]

 

[sb1]

Free Mac is another one.

Week 5. Good things to those who wait…

 

[Triumph]

Week 5. Good things to those who wait…

You wearing your hockey helmet?

 

[lancerman]

If Mac played there would of been 2 int and forced fumbles score would be 21-0

The Chargers are seriously in contention for worst defense we played along with the Giants and Washington. They are 28th in yards and 24th in ppg. What's more they are actually the 31st ranked team in passing defense. You can crap on Mac all you want because he isn't good... but Zappe just played an absymal defense and got shut out. Mac's only got shutout once in the last 3 seasons and it was to the Saints who are ranked 10th in yards, 9th in ppg and are the 6th best passing defense.

So that's your comparison. Everyone who wanted Zappe to get first team reps and have a week where he was the known starter and was all prepared got a huge gift in getting to see him play one of the ****tiest defenses in the NFL that have found ways to lose week after week. What's more, they got a gift of getting to see him agianst the 2nd worst passing defense in the league. The result was he needed 7 points to win and got 0. We were plagued by all the same problems we were the whole year with the pocket collapsing, the QB getting sacked, WR drops, etc.

This wasn't some vindication of all the Zappe truthers or that Mac would have done worse. Historically Mac actually had a much better chance to win this game. So I'm kinda glad he was benched.

 

[TheRainMaker]

right
We have the worst Offense in football. and your solution is to fire ALL the coaches, including those who have brought us a fiune Defense (especially with Judon and Gonzalez out).

Just because he might be "fine" in one area, doesn't excuse the rest. They are 2-10 and are badly trending in the wrong direction.

The defense isn't as good as advertised and some of you guys are still in that trap you've fallen into the last few years. They still get bullied by good teams, but that is quickly ignored by many after they get back on track playing bad teams and when the weather kicks in. This is only the 3rd QB under an 80 QB rating this year. All other QB's have been above this. Judon is a big loss. Gonzalez has proven nothing.

 

[bobbutts]

Even though Zappe threw a bunch of awful passes and failed to get rid of the ball several times and failed to score even a single point it was better than watching Jones.

 

[Brotherblues]

16-0
a second interception would have led to 3 more

23-0 you forgot the fumble on at least one of the plays where Zappe just took a sack.

 

[lancerman]

Stevenson update



If it’s high ankle he’s done for the season

I had a high ankle sprain this year. At best he's missing a few weeks, and by that point, I don't even see the point in rushing him back.

 

[NFL Mystique]

What a waste. This is a very good D being held back by a middle school offense.

When you give up 6 points in today's NFL, it SHOULD mean that you won the game by at least 3 scores.

Everyone on offense & HC, should either forfeit their entire salaries, or give more than half of it to the defense.

 

[Since1960]

I’m watching the Carolina game and I think we could trade Zappe to Carolina for a #1 pick (too bad they already gave it to Chicago). Cripes, Byron Young looks like a 5th grader in shotgun formation. I think I watched bigger kids in my grandsons Pop Warner game…

 

[Rob0729]

Because it appears more and more that Kraft hand picked Jones.

This was his breakout year.

There is zero evidence of that other than baseless opinions of the anti-Mac crowd. If Kraft forced Mac Jones on Belichick, he wouldn't be coaching the Patriots right now. No way would Belichick accept Kraft telling him who to draft or who to play.

Belichick could just ignore Kraft anyway. Everyone who knows anything about his contract knows that Belichick has in the contract that he has final say on all personnel decisions. So even Kraft wanted him to draft Mac Jones or continue to play him, Kraft had absolutely no power to make him do it. Belichick could just say no. If Kraft fired him for saying no, Belichick would have a pretty damn good lawsuit against the Patriots and Kraft.