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Patriots Official Unofficial 53-Man Roster: Pre-Season Edition

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As much as I don't care for Montgomery, he's making it difficult to cut him. I do like K. Harris (Pierce Lol) and Strong though. RB cut downs will be tough.
 
Lil Jordan was a stud last night and really impressed. Don't think anyone had him making the team, now we'll see if he can keep the momentum up. Really liked what I saw.
 
I think this is a pretty good list with the exception of Tavai. They'll never be another Elandon Roberts, but this kid is very close. Count on something bad to happen when he's on the field.
I agree…their are better options other then him. But he played a lot last night I think… guess BB likes him. I think Zolak mentioned he can play 3 downs but IMO he’s average at best.
 
Lil Jordan was a stud last night and really impressed. Don't think anyone had him making the team, now we'll see if he can keep the momentum up. Really liked what I saw.
I was hoping he makes it.. I don't know he survives on the PS..
 
I have 4 roster spots open.

I see the team adding quality depth at G and T.

I think Bourne and Wynn are getting moved. Maybe Bethel as well because hes good.

They keep Zappe as they'd lose him.

QB (3) M.Jones, B. Hoyer, B.Zappe
RB (4) D.Harris, T.Montgomery, P.Strong, R.Stevenson
WR (6) J.Meyers, D.Parker, N.Agholor, T.Thornton, M.Slater, L.Humphrey
TE (2) H.Henry, J.Smith
C (2) D.Andrews, J.Ferentz
G (3) M.Onwenu, A.Hambright, C.Strange
T (3) Y.Cajuste, J.Herron, T.Brown
DE (2) D.Wise, H.Anderson
DT (3) L.Guy, C.Barmore, D.Godchaux
ILB(3) M.Wilson, R.McMillan, J.Bentley
OLB(4) M.Judon, A.Jennings, J.Uche, R.Perkins
CB (6) J.Mills, M.Jones, Jo.Jones, M. Bryant, T.Mitchell, Ja.Jones
SS (3) K.Dugger, A.Phillips, J.Bledsoe
FS (2) J.Peppers, D.McCourty
ST (3) N.Folk, J.Bailey, J.Cardona

Total players: 49

Agree with most but couple of changes .

I don't think we will have the luxury to carry 9 OT , so 8 seems ideal.

Perkins /McGrone / new free agent signing could happen here . They have just not showed anything that makes them get a roster spot.

For the remaining 4, it looks like Myles Bryant, Shaun wade, schooler, labryan Ray , Sam roberts and tre Nixon/ wilkerson as well as aiasi are in play. Possibly an external LT might also come in.my vote for 4 goes to schooler, labryan Ray, Shaun wade and myles Bryant. Nixon /Wilkerson is gonna be a super tough cut

If Bourne is shipped no way are we trading agholor. If agholor starts to get the offense better this year, we should prolly extend him.
 
Whatever the 5 moves needed to be made end up becoming, they should include the following stiffs:

Ferentz
Hammond
Wieland
Hafford
Langi


There are others too, of course... But those can wait until the Big One...
 
The likelihood that neither Meyers nor Agholor will be on the 53 man roster (barring injuries to both) is 0.0%, even before the Wilkerson concussion.
Down Wilkerson and now Thornton, this is looking more probable.
 
I have 4 roster spots open.

I see the team adding quality depth at G and T.

I think Bourne and Wynn are getting moved. Maybe Bethel as well because hes good.

They keep Zappe as they'd lose him.

QB (3) M.Jones, B. Hoyer, B.Zappe
RB (4) D.Harris, T.Montgomery, P.Strong, R.Stevenson
WR (6) J.Meyers, D.Parker, N.Agholor, T.Thornton, M.Slater, L.Humphrey
TE (2) H.Henry, J.Smith
C (2) D.Andrews, J.Ferentz
G (3) M.Onwenu, A.Hambright, C.Strange
T (3) Y.Cajuste, J.Herron, T.Brown

1) I believe that you have 3 QB's in your 49 players ( I made the change for this post)
2) I like the idea of a 49 man squad. I like to focus on the Game One roster, after the temporary moves are made (e.g. to put a player on IR)

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3) I know Bourne pi$$ed off Belichick, but I still would much rather have him than Humphrey, especially with Thornton injured.
4) For my 49 man squad I would rather have Wynn than Hambright. The OG situation will be solved with additions. I believe that Belichick has Ferentz ahead of the rest as a backup OG, which is truly sad.

DE (2) D.Wise, H.Anderson
DT (3) L.Guy, C.Barmore, D.Godchaux
ILB(3) M.Wilson, R.McMillan, J.Bentley
OLB(4) M.Judon, A.Jennings, J.Uche, R.Perkins
CB (6) J.Mills, M.Jones, Jo.Jones, M. Bryant, T.Mitchell, Ja.Jones
SS (3) K.Dugger, A.Phillips, J.Bledsoe
FS (2) J.Peppers, D.McCourty
ST (3) N.Folk, J.Bailey, J.Cardona

Total players: 49
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5) I have Davis instead of Bledsoe.

THE LAST FOUR
A) a veteran OG
B) Bethel
C) a DT
D) another DL (I always ask). A LB/STer like Tavai is more likely.
 
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I agree…their are better options other then him. But he played a lot last night I think… guess BB likes him. I think Zolak mentioned he can play 3 downs but IMO he’s average at best.
For me, average at a position is fine for the bottom 3 or 4 on the roster, especially if they are a STer.
 
Was he the guy that started last night at ILB with Bentley? I get him and Langi mixed up.
That's him...you'll know when he's on the field because the other team is usually attacking him and he's always a few yards out of position.
He's a good special team player but not so much a lb
 
Was he the guy that started last night at ILB with Bentley? I get him and Langi mixed up.

And with his long hair & uniform # in the mid-40s, I also had McGroan confused with the other two...
 
1) I believe that you have 3 QB's in your 49 players ( I made the change for this post)
2) I like the idea of a 49 man squad. I like to focus on the Game One roster, after the temporary moves are made (e.g. to put a player on IR)

OFFENSE (23)
3) I know Bourne pi$$ed off Belichick, but I still would much rather have him than Humphrey, especially with Thornton injured.
4) For my 49 man squad I would rather have Wynn than Hambright. The OG situation will be solved with additions. I believe that Belichick has Ferentz ahead of the rest as a backup OG, which is truly sad.


DEFENSE (23)
5) I have Davis instead of Bledsoe.

THE LAST FOUR
A) a veteran OG
B) Bethel
C) a DT
D) another DL (I always ask). A LB/STer like Tavai is more likely.
I know that the performance of offensive linemen is especially hard for a non-expert to gauge on an individual basis (exhibit A is the surprising-to-me dumping of Mason, who to my untrained eye seemed to be playing really well). That said, this season it seems uncommonly difficult to figure out who is playing well individually on the OL, especially the back-up OL, I read completely different things in different articles.

For example, at the "Top Stories" on Patsfans.com, there is an article: "Patriots 53-Man Roster Projection: Who Made Their Case Vs. Panthers" where the author had as the OL: "Trent Brown, Cole Strange, David Andrews, Mike Onwenu, Isaiah Wynn, Yodny Cajuste, Kody Russey". The first six (including Cajuste, who may even start) are no surprise (unless Wynn it cut, but I read somewhere that there would be no cap savings), but Russey? It would be nice to have a future Center to groom, but I haven't really heard anything about Russey being on the 53 anywhere else. And I'm also confused about Hambright, some places it says he has played very well and others, not so much. Finally there is Ferentz, one article said that Ferentz has really taken a giant step up, but on the other hand you and others posters are "meh".

Apart from from the presumed starters which may include Cajuste, has anyone (Hambright?, Russey? Herron?) really looked like a solid backup, or are they just place-holders for some later veteran addition after the cuts to 53?

 
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I know that the performance of offensive linemen is especially hard for a non-expert to gauge on an individual basis (exhibit A is the surprising-to-me dumping of Mason, who to my untrained eye seemed to be playing really well). That said, this season it seems uncommonly difficult to figure out who is playing well individually on the OL, especially the back-up OL, I read completely different things in different articles.

For example, at the "Top Stories" on Patsfans.com, there is an article: "Patriots 53-Man Roster Projection: Who Made Their Case Vs. Panthers" where the author had as the OL: "Trent Brown, Cole Strange, David Andrews, Mike Onwenu, Isaiah Wynn, Yodny Cajuste, Kody Russey". The first six (including Cajuste, who may even start) are no surprise (unless Wynn it cut, but I read somewhere that there would be no cap savings), but Russey? It would be nice to have a future Center to groom, but I haven't really heard anything about Russey being on the 53 anywhere else. And I'm also confused about Hambright, some places it says he has played very well and others, not so much. Finally there is Ferentz, one article said that Ferentz has really taken a giant step up, but on the other hand you and others posters are "meh".

Apart from from the presumed starters which may include Cajuste, has anyone (Hambright?, Russey? Herron?) really looked like a solid backup, or are they just place-holders for some later veteran addition after the cuts to 53?

I expect Herron to be on the 53; he was an OK backup last year.

Russey seems to be a Practice Squad player to start the year.

Many here don't like Ferentz. Belichick trusts him as our backup center. I expect that he would be active in every game in that role.
 
I know that the performance of offensive linemen is especially hard for a non-expert to gauge on an individual basis (exhibit A is the surprising-to-me dumping of Mason, who to my untrained eye seemed to be playing really well). That said, this season it seems uncommonly difficult to figure out who is playing well individually on the OL, especially the back-up OL, I read completely different things in different articles.

For example, at the "Top Stories" on Patsfans.com, there is an article: "Patriots 53-Man Roster Projection: Who Made Their Case Vs. Panthers" where the author had as the OL: "Trent Brown, Cole Strange, David Andrews, Mike Onwenu, Isaiah Wynn, Yodny Cajuste, Kody Russey". The first six (including Cajuste, who may even start) are no surprise (unless Wynn it cut, but I read somewhere that there would be no cap savings), but Russey? It would be nice to have a future Center to groom, but I haven't really heard anything about Russey being on the 53 anywhere else. And I'm also confused about Hambright, some places it says he has played very well and others, not so much. Finally there is Ferentz, one article said that Ferentz has really taken a giant step up, but on the other hand you and others posters are "meh".

Apart from from the presumed starters which may include Cajuste, has anyone (Hambright?, Russey? Herron?) really looked like a solid backup, or are they just place-holders for some later veteran addition after the cuts to 53?
Perry’s projection is a little too cute in too many ways for my liking, from having a WR as the only backup tight end, to cutting the entire second team DL (Anderson, Davis, Ekuale) in favor of the three rookies, to listing Ross Reiter as a cut even though that already happened over a month ago.

There will absolutely be an 8th OL on the gameday roster, because you don’t get the 48th active spot unless it includes at least 8 OL. The 8th could be a PS elevation in the short term, but that’s not a realistic option throughout the season. I think we’re more likely to see 9 than 7, and I’d go as far as saying 10 is more likely than 7.
 
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