Cam Released

[mike_usagisan]

yup, hard to believe anyone with natural immunity would run out and get the jab. I guess many just live by what others tell them to do or should do.

Again, if your job directly or indirectly requires you to get it, there’s more at stake than just not wanting to do what others tell them to do. Cam knew the risks and did it anyway and now is out of a job.

 

[Pats2000]

• The NFL’s protocols are not updated in real time based on new studies. The rules were adopted before this natural immunity argument got legs; prior to this natural immunity was considered as an unknown. I would argue there are still a lot of questions, but that’s not the point.

• NFL basis is that it’s better to have a draconian policy than a lax one. It’s a one-size-fits all set of standards. Whether or not someone is actually natural immune is a can of worms they clearly didn’t want to open. Maybe next year the policy will be reviewed

• There’s clearly a punitive aspect to the policy too. The league wants to reward those who are vaxed and punish those who aren’t. Undoubtedly, as with all things with the league, it’s heavy on public perception.

• At least 93% of players, and I believe ~100% of coaches/staff are vaccinated (else they’re gone.). So keep in mind the NFL is not a normal population with regard to infection rates. Of course vaccinated positives will be in the great, great majority when there’s maybe a 20:1 overall vax ratio. I’m not arguing here about anything beyond that. This isn’t a 50/50 pool whereby you can compare and contrast.

• The rules are clearly defined. If Cam has natural immunity, he has natural immunity. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t. Neither scenario changes that the protocols were put in place with very specific consequences.

I don't think we are denying the consequences. It seems that people are making his motivation as selfish and lack of leadership. Which is a specious argument.

 

[Pats2000]

Again, if your job directly or indirectly requires you to get it, there’s more at stake than just not wanting to do what others tell them to do. Cam knew the risks and did it anyway and now is out of a job.

And yet, BB himself says it wasn't a factor, pretty emphatically so, pointing to the fact the folks in the NFL that have gotten the vaccine are still getting COVID. So I would say it was Mac's great play along with Cam's poor performance in the final pre-season game. The rest of the stuff about the vaccine is pure speculation by the media.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Because i don't judge the worth of a person or how i treat or view them on how good they are at playing football. Good people who aren't great at football are worth treating with respect. just a crazy notion.

They were *****ing about his font, not calling him a sub-human piece of ****. It's really not that serious

 

[mike_usagisan]

The nice thing is we can all agree that whatever Cam’s reasons for the vaccination, he still sucked as a quarterback.

 

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

Ok.. i'll start now.. how good are you at football?

Legend has it he had 4 touchdowns in a single game.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

The research coming out of Israel is showing that infection with the original SARS-COV2 strain confers better protection against the Delta variant than the vaccines.

The small, self-published, non peer-reviewed, non-controlled study out of Israel that is in conflict with a half dozen other studies? That one?

 

[reflexblue]

MAC has IT. That intangable that winners like TFB, Jordon, Bird etc have

Charlie weiss must have read my post

"The two most important things are do you have the it factor and are you accurate? And he has the it factor and he’s accurate,” Weis said on WEEI. “Now, just like Tommy, Tommy as we know was not the most athletic person in the world, but what did he have? He had that feel in the pocket."

 

[borg]

 

[Ring 6]

NFL rumors: Cam Newton not opposed to being backup QB on new team

Veteran quarterback Cam Newton reportedly would be OK with a backup role on a new team after being released by the New England Patriots.

sports.yahoo.com

Debunk of the “Cam cut himself because he doesn’t want to be a backup” argument

 

[mike_usagisan]

NFL rumors: Cam Newton not opposed to being backup QB on new team

Veteran quarterback Cam Newton reportedly would be OK with a backup role on a new team after being released by the New England Patriots.

sports.yahoo.com

Debunk of the “Cam cut himself because he doesn’t want to be a backup” argument

Yeah, I think it was more that BB didn’t want to have anyone that people would call for if Mac struggles. And maybe a bit that Cam can’t run the offensive scheme they want.

 

[Ring 6]

Yeah, I think it was more that BB didn’t want to have anyone that people would call for if Mac struggles. And maybe a bit that Cam can’t run the offensive scheme they want.

Do you seriously think belichick cares what anyone “calls for”?
He moved on, he is using a Mac Jones offense and wants a backup who can run that offense. Newton cannot.
Newton lost the job last year, it was just a matter of when someone who show up as ready.

 

[Nehalem]

And yet, BB himself says it wasn't a factor, pretty emphatically so, pointing to the fact the folks in the NFL that have gotten the vaccine are still getting COVID. So I would say it was Mac's great play along with Cam's poor performance in the final pre-season game. The rest of the stuff about the vaccine is pure speculation by the media.

Which many would say has something to do with Cam missing 5 days of practice due to not having the vaccine.

 

[Pats2000]

Which many would say has something to do with Cam missing 5 days of practice due to not having the vaccine.

Except for the guy who matters

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Cam says he's fine being a backup.

Belichick, McCarthy, Rivera, so far...all coaching teams that make sense for a willing veteran backup quarterback...none want to touch Cam with a 10-ft pole. How weird...you'd think signing an incredible, no-ego, high-character leader would be an easy call.

At what point will people just acknowledge the charade is over? Cam has always been a phony who has been constantly praised for ridiculous reasons by this forum.

Read between the lines here. Of course the Patriots would prefer to have someone of his skill level as the backup quarterback. Even if Cam's style is different, that was a known when they signed him twice. He is still much better overall than Hoyer. It would be a no-brainer to keep Cam as backup if he weren't a head case who will divide the locker room.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Do you seriously think belichick cares what anyone “calls for”?
He moved on, he is using a Mac Jones offense and wants a backup who can run that offense. Newton cannot.
Newton lost the job last year, it was just a matter of when someone who show up as ready.

I do think he cares a little. Remember when Casel got the starting job and they canceled a previously scheduled QB tryout? I assumed that was for Cassel’s benefit as I assume getting rid of Cam was at least partly for Mac’s benefit.

 

[50-yard-line]

The small, self-published, non peer-reviewed, non-controlled study out of Israel that is in conflict with a half dozen other studies? That one?

If it confirms what someone desperately wants to believe, of course it is.

And that's all I'm saying, because my posts will get deleted again - I just can't stand the scientifically-illiterate nonsense being sprayed around by the Dunning-Kruger community on any public forum.

But here we are.

And no, I'm not a scientist or an expert in this field, which is why I listen to them.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I don't think we are denying the consequences. It seems that people are making his motivation as selfish and lack of leadership. Which is a specious argument.

My guess is that some teammates would see it as selfish and lack of leadership while others would not. Same as this forum.

Personally, I am highly pro-vax and think Cam is a poor leader.

And yet I don’t consider his anti-vax decision to have anything to do with his leadership.

 

[Deus Irae]

So let me get this straight:




Brady threads had to be completely tossed from the forum, and thrown into a sub-forum, because a small number of idiotic honks couldn't handle seeing them, and couldn't use the ignore thread option, but we can have pretty much every single thread driven down vaccination lane without any consequences?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

So let me get this straight:




Brady threads had to be completely tossed from the forum, and thrown into a sub-forum, because a small number of idiotic honks couldn't handle seeing them, and couldn't use the ignore thread option, but we can have pretty much every single thread driven down vaccination lane without any consequences?

While I fully agree about the injustice, I will say I’m glad the Brady forum is now partitioned off from the cesspool. That sub-forum is the only place you can go where threads are overwhelmingly respectful, intelligent discussions. The honks no longer ruin them.