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EsattoSuper Bowl Sunday really sux without the Pats playing in the game!!!
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Yawn. Check back with us in 15 years or so.
Nada.What did he win with Mcnabb and Smith?
Disagree that Pete made a mistake. Seattle had to pass on one of their remaining downs. They only had one timeout.Yeah, the thing I always notice about Andy is he doesn't seem to make the glaring, big mistakes in games (Greenbay and Indy come to mind this postseason as their coaches really let them down, I'll also throw an all-time bad Pete Carrol in the Super Bowl) but I give Andy credit as he doesn't seem to have those moments.
Passing wasn't the issue. It was that particular pass play. Their main target was to a # 3 receiver at best. But it didn't help that Kearse got stonewalled by Browner.Disagree that Pete made a mistake. Seattle had to pass on one of their remaining downs. They only had one timeout.
First of all, welcome to the Board. We have a history of welcoming thoughtful and polite posters from other teams' fan bases.I'm a Chiefs fan. But I can't put Reid on Belichick's level. Even with a win tonight. It's going to take alot more than two titles. Alot more.
I'm prepared to say Mahomes has surpassed Big Ben & Brees with a win tonight. If he hasn't already.
I'll go back further...I'm a young one...had to research..
Do you think the 98 Vikings beat Denver in the SB? They were loaded.
I understand longevity. But when at their best, Mahomes is ahead of the other two. But I do see your point.First of all, welcome to the Board. We have a history of welcoming thoughtful and polite posters from other teams' fan bases.
Agree re Reid and BB. BB also did it early in his career, first with Parcells and then on his own with Brady 20 years ago (he also did a better job with the Browns than he gets credit for). Belichick was 48 when he won his first SB as an HC and his sixth when he was 65. Reid is 62. So not likely he'll be in that discussion. That said, every true Football fan was happy for Andy Reid when he finally got the big prize. And you can make a reasonable argument that BB and TB kept him from getting it a little earlier.
As for Ben and Brees. I'm a big fan of Brees, not so much of Ben because of his off field stuff.
But, my personal feelings aside, there is something to be said for doing it year in and year out over a couple of decades. Brees has put up awesome numbers, surpassed only by Brady...but has only one ring. Ben has two rings and has been a force for a long time.
I'd be willing to say that there is very little doubt that, after a few additional productive seasons, even without another ring, Mahomes will surpass both of them. I just put a lot of value on consistency over time with a changing cast of players (Mahomes' contract has been very cap friendly).
oh, they're assholes too, so don't feel singled out....
Ha. No need, because it’s not possible. Even if they, or someone else were to win 4-6 SBs, it can’t be done in the fashion in which we did it. I don’t even have to elaborate...Yawn. Check back with us in 15 years or so.
Was that the Donks team that was later fined picks by the league for salary cap cheating that produced a Lombardi?No.
The Elway team was elite and the 98 Vikes actually lost 3 defensive starters in the NFCCG vs the Falcons.
They would have lost. TD would have run wild.
Yep. They REALLY cheated.Was that the Donks team that was later fined picks by the league for salary cap cheating that produced a Lombardi?
The first punishment, a $968,000 fine and the forfeiture of a third-round pick, came in December 2001, due to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis. The second punishment, a $950,00 fine and another lost third-round pick, for cap violations that occurred between 1996 and 1998. The Broncos won the Super Bowl at the end of the 1997 and 1998 seasons.
Yeah he's incredible but let's see how he does without Kelce and Hill. So far I will concede his start of his career has been the best. But it's the NFL anything can happenI understand longevity. But when at their best, Mahomes is ahead of the other two. But I do see your point.
We won't see what he can do without Kelce & Hill until a few more years. Both are locked up long term.Yeah he's incredible but let's see how he does without Kelce and Hill. So far I will concede his start of his career has been the best. But it's the NFL anything can happen
No, but I think they would've given the Broncos some trouble. Vikings were loaded on offense and the Broncos had an aging on D. However, the Broncos were a bad a** team by '98 and nobody was going to beat them.I'll go back further...I'm a young one...had to research..
Do you think the 98 Vikings beat Denver in the SB? They were loaded.
They had plenty of time to do either, but were clearly worried the Pats O would get the ball back with time left to try a field goal. The Pats D was gassed and the Seahawks just stood around and gave the Pats a much needed rest. Although I would've rather had them run the ball first, I had no problem with the play. However, Wilson didn't make the best throw and the WR was too soft boxing out Butler. Had Wilson put the ball out just a tad further or the WR been more aggressive, game's over. Malcom's preparation and outmuscling the WR won them the game. Seahawks just choked.Disagree that Pete made a mistake. Seattle had to pass on one of their remaining downs. They only had one timeout.
Kelce turns 32 next Oct. What he does w/o him will be interesting.We won't see what he can do without Kelce & Hill until a few more years. Both are locked up long term.
Though they were without Hill for a few games last year. And Mahomes excelled.