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Why do you say that right now Brady counts 36.7M and they only have 21M? Brady's contract is void, so the only thing that counts if he's not extended is 13.5M in dead cap.Right now with Brady counting 36.7 mill the patriots gave just over 21 mill. If they give him 30 mill spreading half of it over 3 years that saves them 10 million. ( this is only 12 mill less than letting him walk).
He does have a Super Bowl winning defensive game plan in the HOF.
Bill Belichick’s Super Bowl XXV Game Plan
I hate the Cassell argument, he never was supposed to be a starter or a heir to Brady his purpose in life was to be a backup, BB went 11-5 with a backup not a starter says a lot about his coaching ability.
Just as 1985 & '86 Pats going 11-5 says a lot about coaching, talent and effort from players since they were starting what was no better than an adequate backup QB.I hate the Cassell argument, he never was supposed to be a starter or a heir to Brady his purpose in life was to be a backup, BB went 11-5 with a backup not a starter says a lot about his coaching ability.
Josh can go.With McDaniels, Judge and Caserio as potential people departing this offseason, those are significant losses
Um...they beat the team that lost the Super Bowl by 4 points by a score of 47 to 7. Cassel was 20-36 for 345 yards and 3TDs. They beat the Jets who ended up 9-7. They beat the Dolphins who were 11-5 and eventual division champs 48-28. Cassel was 30-45 for 415 yards, 3 TDs and an INT in that one.Except they lost to anybody with a winning record and played an incredibly easy schedule. They struggled against the duds that year. Only close game against a team with a winning record was Indy which to be fair they might have pulled out expect for a borderline penalty on David Thomas.
Only if it's an extension, not if he goes to free agency and then signs.Why do you say that right now Brady counts 36.7M and they only have 21M? Brady's contract is void, so the only thing that counts if he's not extended is 13.5M in dead cap.
The dead cap is already part of what is available which is about $42M w/o Brady's new contract.
If they re-sign him, my understanding is the $13.5M gets rolled into whatever new deal there is (which would be spread out like you said). This is a question since I'm not clear how the $13.5 M gets handled if he re-signs.
The franchise is at somewhat of a crossroads. In trying to understand what people think I wonder how people would feel about being given 2 options.
1) win the Sb next year then go about 4-12 for 5 years straight
2) win 8-10 games each of the next 6 years make the playoffs a couple of times maybe win a post season game or 2 but no SB.
Which would you prefer.
I’m going to try to do it as a poll (never done one before so it may fail) but might be a question that requires explanation too.
That's great and all, but it's a totally false dichotomy. It assumes facts not in evidence. It assumes a metric boatload of facts not in evidence.To me there’s only one obvious answer. And that’s take the Super Bowl. We get high draft picks all those years after that from the 4-12s with a chance to build toward something great. 6 years Of 8-10 wins and missing playoffs some of those years would put us middle of the pack which is a terrible place to be.
That's great and all, but it's a totally false dichotomy. It assumes facts not in evidence. It assumes a metric boatload of facts not in evidence.
No. The cap math that says they have 21mill+ is counting Brady’s 36.7 mill. That’s 30 mill salary and 6.75 Sb amort.Why do you say that right now Brady counts 36.7M and they only have 21M? Brady's contract is void, so the only thing that counts if he's not extended is 13.5M in dead cap.
The dead cap is already part of what is available which is about $42M w/o Brady's new contract.
If they re-sign him, my understanding is the $13.5M gets rolled into whatever new deal there is (which would be spread out like you said). This is a question since I'm not clear how the $13.5 M gets handled if he re-signs.
If you want extend it forward. 1 SB win every 5 years and 4-12 the other 4 repeatedly or 8-10 wins every year indefinitely but never a SB.That's great and all, but it's a totally false dichotomy. It assumes facts not in evidence. It assumes a metric boatload of facts not in evidence.
That doesn't change anything. It's still assuming facts not in evidence. Is the SB guaranteed? Who says they would have 8-10 wins indefinitely?If you want extend it forward. 1 SB win every 5 years and 4-12 the other 4 repeatedly or 8-10 wins every year indefinitely but never a SB.
I was referring to the original poll.what’s a false dichotomy? I certainly didn’t create one. The OP gave choices and my choice is based on the info I was given.
It’s in the question.That doesn't change anything. It's still assuming facts not in evidence. Is the SB guaranteed? Who says they would have 8-10 wins indefinitely?.
Some people on here and in this thread have expressed that they would rather be consistently competitive Without a Sb than be consistently bad but have a Sb season mixed in.Winning a SB vs NOT winning a SB. This is hard for some?
That's the point. It's a stupid, meaningless question. I don't prefer either. Hows that?It’s in the question.
The question is which result would you prefer.
It’s not that complicated.