TNF: Chiefs LOSE LOL

[50-yard-line]

It means that, as long as the Patriots beat the Dolphins, they'll take over the #1 seed.






Umm... err... Nevermind.

No, I won't nevermind this...pretty obvious that the biggest problem the Pats have this year is their own mindset. They've beaten every good team they've played and lost to four mediocre teams on the road.

I don't want to cry over spilt milk, but come on - it's quite possible that not one of their four losses to date will be to a playoff team (certainly no more than a single 6 seed).

That's gut-check time, right there. Quite against the mythical Patriot Way, I'd say.

 

[Kontradiction]

Seems like they should blame Kareem Hunt.

They should blame themselves.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

They miss him badly. Defenses can now just line up in the Nickel or Dime and get away with playing the run that way. They may even go one and done in the playoffs and they'll have nobody to blame but themselves.

There’s a good chance they’ll get the 5 seed, which means they play Baltimore. And Baltimore gave them fits in their own building...KC would play them on the road this time.

 

[Kontradiction]

There’s a good chance they’ll get the 5 seed, which means they play Baltimore. And Baltimore gave them fits in their own building...KC would play them on the road this time.

Jackson would have to grow up quickly in order for that to happen, but their defense should be able to harass Mahomes from the opening whistle.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Jackson would have to grow up quickly in order for that to happen, but their defense should be able to harass Mahomes from the opening whistle.

Assuming we get the 2 seed, which is the best match for us? KC, Baltimore, or Houston? I lean toward Baltimore because of Jackson’s inexperience, followed by Houston. The 1 seed would likely play LAC/KC, which I’d rather avoid for the divisional...

 

[Family]

With all the analysis about tiebreakers if the Chiefs and Chargers lose one more game.......... what about Houston?

Where do they fit if they win out?

 

[patsfan7983]

With all the analysis about tiebreakers if the Chiefs and Chargers lose one more game.......... what about Houston?

Where do they fit if they win out?

Depends on what game the chiefs loose: If they loose against Seattle, KC wins the AFC West and has the tiebreaker over Houston, so #1 Pats (if they win out), #2 KC, #3 Houston.
If the chiefs loose against oakland, LAC wins the AFC West and we have a threeway tie. In this case its going to be #1 Houston, #2 LAC, #3 Pats.

 

[Belichick8384]

Win out and all we need to hope for is the Seahawks winning at home next week and LA dropping one of the last 2, and we'll have #1 seed

 

[Gronkowski123]

Better win out! Don't want to be the fourth seed.

 

[Gronkowski123]

We should be the number 1 seed right now. Wow

 

[Kontradiction]

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[patsinthesnow]

The 2018 AFC could be the most wide open conference in a long time. Depending on the 6 seed, everyone could have a legitimate shot at the SB.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

The Chiefs are super vulnerable to a lot of teams in their first playoff game even if they hold onto the 1 seed, there's several teams outside of the Pats who can goto Arrowhead and hang a big number on that defense.

There's going to be teams going there with nothing to lose and the Chiefs will be under huge pressure.

 

[VectorPrime]

I’m convinced that if the Chiefs hold onto the 1 seed that they’ll be the most vulnerable 1 seed in quite a while. If this Pats team didn’t suck ass on the road I’d probably take them in a matchup at Arrowhead. But as it is I wouldn’t be confident in the Pats going on the road against an 8-8 team. So we’ll really need the Chiefs to lose in the divisional round.

 

[SamusAranX]

Its likely nothing but is Mahomes coming back to earth?

17 @ Denver - 17 degrees 4 mph wind

22 comp - 35 att - 284 yds - 0 td -1 int - 2 sacks - 0 fumb - 76.4 qbr

18 Baltimore - 27 degrees no wind

35 comp - 53 att - 377 yards - 2 td - 1 int - 3 sacks - 1 fumb - 91.4 qbr

18 San Deeahgo - 39 degrees 5 mph wind

24 comp - 34 att - 243 yards -2 td - 0 int - 2 sacks - 1 fumb -110.3 qbr

His comp % rate is good, but Im not seeing the scoreboard lighting up like a pin ball machine when it was balmy. Last 2 games 2 fumbles, 4 tds and 5 sacks. KC scrapped by to beat Balt in the almighty Arrowhead.

A small sample size but interesting nonetheless.

However, if you go back and look at some of the great offenses of NFL history, many of them tended to plateau in their scoring towards later in the season. By this time, opposing coaches have more film to try and counteract the offensive schemes. The truly dominant offenses just impose their will.

 

[Tunescribe]

Can't tell who the thread title refers to -- Lawrence O'Leary maybe? Never heard of him.

 

[captain stone]

Chatham = Tool.

 

[zoostation]

Patriots would be knocking on the door for the #1 seed in the AFC this morning as TB12 is part owner of the Squeeler franchise. Grrrr Miami collapse!

 

[Koma]

Phillip rivers has been an average qb for most of his career. He’s gotten better. I bet the chargers are glad to have him and not manning. Eli has just gotten worse.

As the announcers pointed out, Eli, Rivers and Roethlisberger were all drafted in the first round in the same year. They are currently 6th, 7th, and 8th in career passing yards:

6. Roethlisberger - 55, 292
7. Manning - 55,142
8. Rivers - 54,299

They are also very close in career TD passes:

6. Rivers - 373
7 (tie). Manning - 357
Roethlisberger - 357

Passing Attempts:

6. Manning - 7,854
8. Roethlisberger - 7,039
9. Rivers - 6,939

Completions:

6. Manning - 4,734
7. Roethlisberger - 4,530
8. Rivers - 4,481

Interceptions is where the trio diverges:

14. Manning - 236
33. Roethlisberger - 187
44. Rivers - 174
(For reference, Brady is 47th with 168 INTs.)

Lastly, I know people say wins and losses aren't QB stats, but here are their W-L records:

Manning - 116-111
Roethlisberger - 142-68-1
Rivers - 117-89

My point with all this is that, while the postseason success is missing, Rivers has put together a HOF career. Sadly, Eli is going in, also, even though he's throw a ton more INTs and is hovering just above .500.