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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.What teams in the league have a 4th LB as good as Van Noy?He should be a 4th LB, not a 2nd LB
NoneWhat teams in the league have a 4th LB as good as Van Noy?
I’d meet in the middle and say 3rd.He should be a 4th LB, not a 2nd LB
What teams in the league have a 4th LB as good as Van Noy?
You're welcome to evaluate that for yourself. In the meantime, let's play a game, even while realizing that the Patriots don't start 4 LBs anymore, and thus have only been looking to fill the rotation of 3 LBs + backups in recent years rather than 4 LBs + backups. I started with Brady's first season as the QB and went every 3 years instead of yearly, just for speed purposes. Also, I had to use 2015 rather than 2016, because Van Noy was on the team in 2016.
During the following seasons, which LBs would Van Noy be replacing in the rotation?
2001 - Cox, Johnson, Vrabel, Pfifer, McGinest, Bruschi
2004 - Johnson, Bruschi, Vrabel, McGinest, Colvin
2007 - Bruschi, Vrabel, Seau, Thomas, Colvin
2010 - Mayo, Ninkovich, Spikes, Cunningham, Banta-Cain, Guyton
2013 - Collins, Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, Fletcher
2015 - Mayo, Hightower, Collins, Freeny, Bostic
So, I've got 6 seasons there. Feel free to plug Van Noy in and see where he ends up each time.
You're welcome to evaluate that for yourself. In the meantime, let's play a game, even while realizing that the Patriots don't start 4 LBs anymore, and thus have only been looking to fill the rotation of 3 LBs + backups in recent years rather than 4 LBs + backups. I started with Brady's first season as the QB and went every 3 years instead of yearly, just for speed purposes. Also, I had to use 2015 rather than 2016, because Van Noy was on the team in 2016.
During the following seasons, which LBs would Van Noy be replacing in the rotation?
2001 - Cox, Johnson, Vrabel, Pfifer, McGinest, Bruschi
2004 - Johnson, Bruschi, Vrabel, McGinest, Colvin
2007 - Bruschi, Vrabel, Seau, Thomas, Colvin
2010 - Mayo, Ninkovich, Spikes, Cunningham, Banta-Cain, Guyton
2013 - Collins, Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, Fletcher
2015 - Mayo, Hightower, Collins, Freeny, Bostic
So, I've got 6 seasons there. Feel free to plug Van Noy in and see where he ends up each time.
I appreciate the effort to put this together. He's clearly behind all the 1-2 duos in this list and I don't think anyone would realistically try to contest that. Good comparisons. I might quibble a bit with scheme (a few of those were 34 LBers who wouldn't be in the LB corp in our current multiple front defense), and I'd also argue that Van Noy would find playing time as a sub in quite a few of those years, even if he's not a special talent. When he was LB2, I thought he played fairly assignment sound and wasn't a liability. My guess is that he'll be a serviceable starter this year, as long as he's able to play second fiddle to Hightower.
Interesting replies here. This thread started off with responses from the guys who like Van Noy, then followed up by responses all at once from guys who think he sucks.
Basically proves my point. There’s no real consensus on what people feel about him. It’s all over the map
Do tellWe seem to have gotten very different impressions from reading the same thread.
Do tell
Ha. I was just coming in the thread to say something similar, although I was going to say a 3rd LB rather than a 4th.He should be a 4th LB, not a 2nd LB