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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.My man, you are going to give yourself a rage widow maker over a pro football team that you talk about on a message board. You really need to calm down. It’s not that serious.BS . Gunner didn't outplay Harry and it's pathetic you'd say so. It screams at how badly you understand football.
This is why it was smart to get Cam.
Otherwise Hoyer would be the presumed starter, and the backup would be.. Edelman?
Yeah, but you’re seeming to ignore that they’ve made only 5 first round selections during that time and the picks were 23, 29, 31, 32, and 32. Not all 1st round picks are equal, overall draft success rates are a lot less for picks 20+ than earlier (where BB’s record is pretty much unblemished). This doesn’t mean they can’t do better — 1 (maybe 1.5 or 2 if Sony pans out or if you give Brown credit for at least being NFL starter caliber) out of 5 is still bad no matter how you slice it, the Easley pick was really indefensible given what we now know the team knew about him then, and maybe the team should have been more aggressive in trading up and/or not trading back and out. But this needs to be kept in mind when comparing to other teams’ drafting records, like the Jets.This is something the board continues to ignore.
Yeah, but you’re seeming to ignore that they’ve made only 5 first round selections during that time and the picks were 23, 29, 31, 32, and 32. Not all 1st round picks are equal, overall draft success rates are a lot less for picks 20+ than earlier (where BB’s record is pretty much unblemished). This doesn’t mean they can’t do better — 1 (maybe 1.5 or 2 if Sony pans out or if you give Brown credit for at least being NFL starter caliber) out of 5 is still bad no matter how you slice it, the Easley pick was really indefensible given what we now know the team knew about him then, and maybe the team should have been more aggressive in trading up and/or not trading back and out. But this needs to be kept in mind when comparing to other teams’ drafting records, like the Jets.
If this is your position, make sure that you don't listen to, or read, Zolak's take on Newton and his shoulder.
the best route runner in camp; knows the playbook better than anyone not names JulesHas Sanu been bad in camp?
Yeah, but you’re seeming to ignore that they’ve made only 5 first round selections during that time and the picks were 23, 29, 31, 32, and 32. Not all 1st round picks are equal, overall draft success rates are a lot less for picks 20+ than earlier (where BB’s record is pretty much unblemished). This doesn’t mean they can’t do better — 1 (maybe 1.5 or 2 if Sony pans out or if you give Brown credit for at least being NFL starter caliber) out of 5 is still bad no matter how you slice it, the Easley pick was really indefensible given what we now know the team knew about him then, and maybe the team should have been more aggressive in trading up and/or not trading back and out. But this needs to be kept in mind when comparing to other teams’ drafting records, like the Jets.
link? I couldn't find anything from zolak about the shoulder. I did see Jonathan Jones with a piece on CBS Sports today basically say the same thing I said two weeks ago, that the real test of the shoulder will be in November.
Nope. It’s a response to, “This is something the board has continued to ignore,” which was a response to the comment that the majority of our top picks since 2013 haven’t panned out.Is the suggestion that Belichick chose the best WR available when he chose Harry?
But does he run these exceptional routes with any kind of speed?the best route runner in camp; knows the playbook better than anyone not names Jules
Being a veteran is a negative to many, those who would refer have all UDFA's.
He's a beach boy.
We are lucky the team was even able to squeeze out 3 more Super Bowls given the drafts between 2013-2019. And we are really lucky they pulled two wins out of their a**es in 2014 and 2016. Got exposed in 2017.Yeah, but you’re seeming to ignore that they’ve made only 5 first round selections during that time and the picks were 23, 29, 31, 32, and 32. Not all 1st round picks are equal, overall draft success rates are a lot less for picks 20+ than earlier (where BB’s record is pretty much unblemished). This doesn’t mean they can’t do better — 1 (maybe 1.5 or 2 if Sony pans out or if you give Brown credit for at least being NFL starter caliber) out of 5 is still bad no matter how you slice it, the Easley pick was really indefensible given what we now know the team knew about him then, and maybe the team should have been more aggressive in trading up and/or not trading back and out. But this needs to be kept in mind when comparing to other teams’ drafting records, like the Jets.
Zolak said they're terrible so far and their best TE is izzoAny news on those TE's we drafted??
Harry has to get on the field & perform but some are really giving up on him too fast.
1)He wasn't making it past 35-40. I've heard a few different teams were interested but mainly the 49ers. They made no secret about how much they liked him. You could argue he was WR1/2 on ours & their boards.
John Lynch explains how N'Keal Harry led 49ers ... - 49ers Webzone
NFL rumors: 49ers targeting N'Keal Harry, Deebo ... - NBC Sports
So the idea that we picked him out of thin air is nuts. He was a FO phenom that exploded onto the scene and had scouts at his games since HS.
Injuries have sucked but have a little more faith.
The draft is a beast. It's not easy. Evaluating prospects is hard but that's where it ends for me. The other tough part and maybe tougher part is deciding if that prospect will fit on that 53, with the coaching staff/trainers, GM ... That's something people always forget. You're evaluating a prospect and how they'll fit on your team.
I a 2nd on Butler, Deebo, Harry, Brown, DK, McLaurin, Brown, Hardman ... So far so good ... I really think Harry belongs here.
Back to the draft being a beast ... 2017 3rd round. We take Garcia & Rivers ( @captain stone ) while Godwin, Hunt, Kamara, John Johnson, Shaq Griffin & Kupp were on the board. I had a 2nd on all except Kamara. He literally just missed and graded out high 3rd. I embarrassing forgot to eval Kupp before the draft so I leave him off my sheet but would of had a 3rd on him.
Its a funny beast.
2)He passed the film test. Can line up at big slot, X/Z, motion. I questioned very early on if he'll ever be a true #1 & that his release was the big concern but he's a fine prospect.
Move him around, like we've doing using motion but continue that between inside/outside. He has to be worked in a certain way early on bc of press/physical corners.
He's more than capable ...
3)He passed the athletic testing & profile. 3 cone was between 6.88-7.05 depending on your stopwatch. 6'2/225 ran 4.53, 38.5 vert & put up almost 30 reps of 225.
Also broke out early & often in college
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Think he deserves the year. Regardless the wr corp needs a lot more help if no one steps up between now & next draft.