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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I think a Jets poster summed this up pretty well, before he went off the deep end with the rest of his post:
Again, this guy could turn out to be the next Ed Reed. However, the bottom line is that many of the very same people who are saying "Give Tavon a chance" would be killing pretty much any other team who'd made the exact same move. Well, sauce for the goose...
Apparently he was dealing with a hamstring injury all last year, and still ended up with 10 sacks...
I have no idea if that is true..
To tell you the story of how Arkansas Razorback Jake Bequette touched the lives of a Saline County family by simply drawing a number on his standard issue wrist bands, one must rewind the clock just two short weeks. For three generations of the Carpenter family, those weeks have seemed like an eternity.
Arkansas fan here. I think most of the insight on Bequette has been pretty good and there's not much that hasn't been covered.
He got hurt the second game of the season and missed the next three. He played a little it in the Auburn game but essentially that was his fourth missed game. He then went on to tally nine more sacks in the final seven games while never being quite 100%. He was probably looking at a 12-15 sack season had he never been injured.
As for the "character" issues (which has been covered) that's as big of a shock to me as any other Arkansas fan. With Mallett we could sort of understand it, even if some of it was fabricated, but you could still see where there might be some questions about his character. With Bequette, though, that one is just a big shocker. I mean he's one of the last kids on the team you'd expect to hear about getting in trouble or being a cancer in the locker room.
Take a second to read this story and see if you still have any concerns about Jake as a person.
Razorback Defensive End Keeps Haskell Child’s Memory Alive*|*247 Saline
Found this just lying around the internet...
The 2012 Draft: Picture Analysis - Draft Countdown Forums
Nice, thanks for the insight N.O on Bequette. Seems like a great kid...
..Just for kicks, what are your thoughts on Mallet??
First i love the rest of the draft picks so far. I hear the same thing Every year we don't know what they know. Theres a reason for that, because every year we take a player in the higher rounds that seems like a real reach, that said player could be had much later, that the 2nd or 3rd rnd pick Should have brought much greater value. These are just the D backs that haven't worked out, some were reaches some weren't. It shows how many high round picks have been used for the Defensive backfield with poor resultsTheres no way you and I not being in the draft rooms and being privy to information would know whether or nor he could be had with a later pick. If the Pats had him as the top rated safety on the board whos to say another team didnt
I think some of the off the field issues are warranted but I also think some of it was overreaction. I personally can see and understand the ****iness issues but that can also be a good thing in a QB if it's limited. As for the other things, I'll put it this way. Arkansas sports is all we have. There's no professional sports teams or another major college to take away attention from the University of Arkansas. When any kind of drama is happening at the school the news spreads like wildfire. In his three years here not once did we hear anything about Mallett having drug problems. I just think, had Mallett been struggling with something as serious as "hard" drug use, it would have leaked at some point in those three years. But like everyone else Arkansas fans were hearing about it for the first time in the months leading up to the draft like everyone else.
As for his actual playing ability, I still think he is/was the second best QB from the 2011 draft. Even leading up the draft last year I would have argued that he would be a better NFL QB than Cam Newton. Obviously I may have been wrong in that assumption but I still think he can be better than the other QBs drafted ahead of him.
There's not a throw he can't make and, when you factor in the numbers he put up in the SEC as a two year starter, it's still baffling to me how guys like Ponder, Gabbert, and Locker can go so high while Mallett is drafted in the 3rd round. Then you throw in the fact that he was coming from Bobby Petrino's complex pro-style offense and you've got a kid ready made for the NFL. It's all speculation but I think had he gone in the 1st round and started from day one, he would have done very well for a rookie QB.
I don't think I've ever seen a QB be so criticized for a few bad interceptions. Sure the pick he threw at the end of the Alabama game as a sophomore in 2010 and the pick he threw at the end of the Sugar Bowl against Ohio State in 2011 were bad. But every QB has thrown some untimely interceptions in crucial moments of a big game. Bottomline is that I think he was a 1st round talent that fell to the 3rd round due to some alleged off the field issues.
Well played Deus.Found this just lying around the internet...
The 2012 Draft: Picture Analysis - Draft Countdown Forums
The point cannot be stressed enough. Despite the greatest QB to ever play the game and the greatest defensive-minded coach in the NFL's history, we can't win the SB because we can't draft defensive players outside of the first round.First i love the rest of the draft picks so far. I hear the same thing Every year we don't know what they know. Theres a reason for that, because every year we take a player in the higher rounds that seems like a real reach, that said player could be had much later, that the 2nd or 3rd rnd pick Should have brought much greater value. These are just the D backs that haven't worked out, some were reaches some weren't. It shows how many high round picks have been used for the Defensive backfield with poor results
T Wheatly 2nd
J Wilhight 3rd
Darious Butler 2nd.... should have gone here, but shows the difficulty this team has picking DBacks
B Merriweather 1st same as D Butler
Ras I Dowling 2nd rnd is working his way onto this list
Guss Scott..3rd rnd
Eugene Wilson 2nd rnd... had a good year once
Dexter Reid 4th rnd
Brock Williams...3rd rnd
The point cannot be stressed enough. Despite the greatest QB to ever play the game and the greatest defensive-minded coach in the NFL's history, we can't win the SB because we can't draft defensive players outside of the first round.
Our record with DBs is poor. It's time to hold people accountable. Not to disparage, but let the facts speak.
So when a Tavon Wilson is picked at 48--and I was catching grief for promoting Bruce Irvin at 31--the groupies come together for a group hug as we catch a ride with Thelma and Louise off the cliff.
This is the Jeff Lageman pick of the second round. We loved making fun of the Jets that year, assuming the posters were alive then, but now it's "Belichick We Trust."
Robert Kraft is watching. If Glass IR Dowling does his swan dive and Tavon Wilson disappears like the volleyball, you might start hearing rumors of a GM coming in to handle player acquisitions like it's done with the vast majority of the other teams in the NFL.[/QUOTE]
They just went to the Super Bowl for the 5th time in 11 years! Fortunatley the people running things down in Foxboro know what they're doing and dont make rash decisions if a second round pick isnt popular with the message board posters. How they do on the field every Sunday is how this team is judged.
The point cannot be stressed enough. Despite the greatest QB to ever play the game and the greatest defensive-minded coach in the NFL's history, we can't win the SB because we can't draft defensive players outside of the first round...
This is the Jeff Lageman pick of the second round. We loved making fun of the Jets that year, assuming the posters were alive then, but now it's "Belichick We Trust."...
Robert Kraft is watching. If Glass IR Dowling does his swan dive and Tavon Wilson disappears like the volleyball, you might start hearing rumors of a GM coming in to handle player acquisitions like it's done with the vast majority of the other teams in the NFL.
I missed most of the action last night so just catching up.
Wilson pick doesn't thrill me but I have to believe the Patriots saw something in him. BB wouldn't just pick someone to annoy the Kipers of the world. Would he?
Bequette -- looks like he could be a find. Guy seems to play with some intensity .. .speed and power. Just the type of guy who could unleash some 30-yard sacks on Tebow.
Since this is the general Day 2 thread — as opposed to the Pats Day 2 thread, and despite this one apparently being all Pats talk — I wanted to mention my surprise at the Colts picks. What happened? I thought they were going to go all Ravens and toughen up on D? So they pick a QB, two TEs and a WR? Sounds to me like somebody's trying to duplicate the past.
He did not get invited to the combo so all the media types dropped him. He did have private workouts with the Pros and the Patriots picked where they felt he belonged. It seems others may have been interested as well. Too many people base their opinions on the media who are not professionals. Would you rather get your diagnosis from Web MD with this board as backup or go in and see the folks at Mass General.
• In the can't-make-this-up department, one thing the Rams' two rookie cornerbacks have in common is that both Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson have had the experience of being tasered by police in the not too distant past.
Jenkins was tasered as part of his arrest in a 2009 bar fight, and Johnson was tasered by police in Montana last October, in an alcohol-related incident that occurred at an on-campus party.
That should make for some interesting first-day conversation between the newbies at Rams mini-camp. I guess after you've been "tased, bro,'' getting beat in coverage doesn't sting quite so badly.