The massive cost of trading Garappolo

[Huckleberry1]

Best case scenario; First rounder next year. And two second rounders this year. Give me that and il take it

Best case scenario, top 3 pick in this draft.

 

[Simpelton]

Best case scenario, top 3 pick in this draft.

Disagree. Why put all your draft-value eggs in a single basket when we don't have to? The New England Patriots of all teams are not lacking in star power. Get the roleplayers we need to continue the roll we're playing.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Disagree. Why put all your draft-value eggs in a single basket when we don't have to? The New England Patriots of all teams are not lacking in star power. Get the roleplayers we need to continue the roll we're playing.

What does this have to do with my post?

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Disagree. Why put all your draft-value eggs in a single basket when we don't have to? The New England Patriots of all teams are not lacking in star power. Get the roleplayers we need to continue the roll we're playing.

If they get that pick and don't want anyone that high they'll trade it down for multiple picks.

And they'll get better picks in return than if they get the #12 or anything else lower than #3.

 

[Simpelton]

If they get that pick and don't want anyone that high they'll trade it down for multiple picks.

And they'll get better picks in return than if they get the #12 or anything else lower than #3.

True. I guess my point is that I don't think we need to go for one value piece here, if we get the same value we'd have traded down for with #12 plus pieces, I'd call that as good as the #3 and so would you. And we may wind up trading down #12 anyway.

Considering how dangerous BB is in the lower rounds, the more quality we can trade for quantity the happier I'd be. I'd almost rather have a whole bunch of #3 picks than a small handful of #1's.

 

[Huckleberry1]

If the opportunity for a top 3 pick actually exists they should take it. The Patriots almost never get a shot at top draft talent as they are always picking at the bottom of every round, so if they have a chance to get that kind of talent they should jump all over it. They have many ways of getting role players but they would have to give a bonanza to get a top 3 pick, if Garrapolo is enough to get it they should do so. Adding Jamal Adams to their secondary, Jonathan Allen to their DL, or Fournette to their backfield is simply to good to pass on. And if the guy they really want isn't there no one is better at trading back and adding value, and they could move down and add OJ Howard or one of the LB's could be in play.

Brady isn't going anywhere and keeping Garrapolo when a team is offering incredible value for him just doesn't make sense. If the offer is really good then make the deal, if it isn't then pass and see what develops down the road.

 

[Rob0729]

So, just to reiterate: The guy whose team was forced to run a high school offense when he played is definitely the obvious heir apparent to Brady, but the guy who has 3+ years in our system and actually looked very good running it is still an unknown?

It will be great to see if/how Brissett progresses, but I'm not as sure as you are about who the unknown is and who the heir to the Brady throne is.

There is no guarantees with anyone, but the Patriots coaching staff know far more about both QBs than any of us.

But Brissett is an unknown too. I just reported what Michael Holley said on the air. Never said I agreed with it. I have no idea what Brissett is or will be. It looks from Holley said that the Pats are probably willing to let Garoppolo walk if they get a great trade offer and gamble that Brissett is going to be Brady's successor when he is done. It has nothing to do with my opinion on the subject.

 

[supafly]

There is no guarantees with anyone, but the Patriots coaching staff know far more about both QBs than any of us.

But Brissett is an unknown too. I just reported what Michael Holley said on the air. Never said I agreed with it. I have no idea what Brissett is or will be. It looks from Holley said that the Pats are probably willing to let Garoppolo walk if they get a great trade offer and gamble that Brissett is going to be Brady's successor when he is done. It has nothing to do with my opinion on the subject.

Fair enough, Rob. I tend to agree with you about them feeling good with Brissett, as he did show excellent leadership traits. I also think that your opening sentence in this reply hits it right on the head: we don't have any clue either way. There will be plenty of luck involved.

 

[deroc5050]

Well what do you want us to do? Yes, Garoppolo didn't do his reputation any harm with his appearance, but we're fans. From a fan perspective what Brisset did was simply more impressive than what Garoppolo did, especially considering how green Brissett was, so as a fan, I'm actually more excited about Brissett.

There's also the fact that we're going to keep Brissett and he's going to be the guy right behind a 40 year old starter. Bracing for the departure of both Garoppolo in the next few months in all likelihood, as well as Brady in the near future as well, we need to see good signs about Brissett, because he's about to become the primary backup. So fans are (or at least I am) excited about the fact that Brissett did as well as he did.

You've also got fans bracing themselves for the departure of Garoppolo and struggling with the fact that we're going to have to say goodbye soon. That just makes it all the easier to pump Brissett's tires because after all, if Brissett is great, we won't wind up missing Garoppalo as much.

Lots of reasons to shift the conversation to Brissett just now.

I honestly didn't see anything from Brisset that tells me he is a possible Starting QB for the Patriots. Nothing.

But I noticed they took him off temp IR and used there designated spot on him. He seems to have the right attitude. But thats about all we know at this point.

 

[deroc5050]

If the best offer you got for JG was 2 2nd round picks would you make the trade? Or would you keep him for another year as Brady's insurance policy?

 

[Simpelton]

I honestly didn't see anything from Brisset that tells me he is a possible Starting QB for the Patriots. Nothing.

But I noticed they took him off temp IR and used there designated spot on him. He seems to have the right attitude. But thats about all we know at this point.

That's still good news. Quite frankly at this early stage in his development, attitude and personality are the only unknowns that his performance was going to shed light on. Of course he'd be inexperienced and raw. Of course he wouldn't be familiar with the playbook or have timing with the receivers. But he could show us what he was mentally, with creativity, poise and leadership traits. And so he did. And a lot of us liked what we saw.

With only a handful of WEEKS of NFL experience Brisset had the self confidence to play well enough not to hurt the team, stay within himself, not get overwhelmed by the moment or the opposition, hold onto the football and make good decisions with it, and make some nice plays. I'm confident that given his experience level those are the only parts of his game BB was even interested in analyzing, and he came up roses on all counts

Brissett showed excellent intangibles. The rest is a matter of practice and hard work. Plenty of reason to be optimistic here as long as you're not stupid enough to think he needs to be ready to lead the team on the field at a Superbowl level this year in order to be a good backup.

 

[MagicMarker]

Some of the opinions are odd. Mike Sando has an article on ESPN saying the Patriots should trade Garoppolo for two #2, but Malcolm Butler for a #1.

Really.

So a starting CB can get a #1, but a QB can't? I'm not buying it.