Roster Moves & Evaluation: Intense week ahead of Pats (and us)

[The Gr8est]

I expect to activate Sankey, Nink, Brady, possibly DT. Would at least need 2 moves.
Possibilities:
Brissett to IR
Foster released
Waddle released

I doubt Waddle will get released. We have no backup OT after him and I fear he may be better than any FA the Pats could sign.

 

[Mack Herron]

I doubt Waddle will get released. We have no backup OT after him and I fear he may be better than any FA the Pats could sign.

Tough to predict BB.

 

[aluminum seats]

I guess that means IR.

Ideal, really. Go thumb.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

I guess that means IR.

Let's give the kid props for toughing it out and playing in the Biffalo game, he was obviously hurt.

 

[The Gr8est]

Let's give the kid props for toughing it out and playing in the Biffalo game, he was obviously hurt.

Agreed, and while losing Brissett to IR isn't the ideal situation for his development, he got a lot of playing time while he was an the 53, and the fact that he got to play as much as he did in the regular season games, was probably better for his development, than a whole year of holding a clipboard would have been.

 

[patfanken]

Agreed, and while losing Brissett to IR isn't the ideal situation for his development, he got a lot of playing time while he was an the 53, and the fact that he got to play as much as he did in the regular season games, was probably better for his development, than a whole year of holding a clipboard would have been.

I disagree, at least partially. Obviously playing in those 2.5 games was a great experience for him. More importantly he showed the coaches he has the right mentality to be a successful QB in the NFL.....someday.

However do not dismiss the value of being on the team every day, going to meetings to improve his understanding of the game, taking snaps in practice, even if most of them are on the scout team. There is also value in the coaching and skill development in the individual and group drills. All those things that he'll be missing if he goes on IR this early.

Now SOME of that might be mitigated if he's allowed to go to meetings and watch practices. But I'm not sure that's the current policy of how the team handle a player who goes on IR. It's my understanding that they basically cease to exist for the team, except for their rehabilitation.

I like the thought that if JB is put on IR another roster spot is taken care of. HOWEVER I think I'd rather have him on the field this season, even if it's only to "carry a clipboard"

 

[long distance]

Interesting ... The bouncer changing sides?



Probably just for practice purposes .. but one never knows with BB
Guess they're not cutting him. He's nasty attitude can certainly work both ways ..

Here a reminder of his draft analysys:
Four-year starter at right guard. Uses brute upper body strength to get defenders turned and sealed. Drops a hammer on down blocks to knock running lanes open. Effective power in small spaces. Gritty demeanor on the field. Intensity on game day is legendary.
Karras doesn’t move as well as Thuney, Mason, Cooper or Kline, but he still has the ability to block at the second level. He showed off good body control as a run blocker and met his targets head on. He won’t be as effective at pulling as more athletic interior players.
Karras was the seventh member of his family to play in the Big 10. That includes his great-uncle, Alex Karras, who was a Pro Bowl defensive tackle for the Detroit Lions.

 

[long distance]

Technically at 51 since TB and Ninko still not activated ..

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

However do not dismiss the value of being on the team every day, going to meetings to improve his understanding of the game, taking snaps in practice, even if most of them are on the scout team.

He can do all the bolded things, he just can't go to practice.

 

[luuked]

I disagree, at least partially. Obviously playing in those 2.5 games was a great experience for him. More importantly he showed the coaches he has the right mentality to be a successful QB in the NFL.....someday.

However do not dismiss the value of being on the team every day, going to meetings to improve his understanding of the game, taking snaps in practice, even if most of them are on the scout team. There is also value in the coaching and skill development in the individual and group drills. All those things that he'll be missing if he goes on IR this early.

Now SOME of that might be mitigated if he's allowed to go to meetings and watch practices. But I'm not sure that's the current policy of how the team handle a player who goes on IR. It's my understanding that they basically cease to exist for the team, except for their rehabilitation.

I like the thought that if JB is put on IR another roster spot is taken care of. HOWEVER I think I'd rather have him on the field this season, even if it's only to "carry a clipboard"

I am with you Ken.. I find it a bit curious that they send JB to IR instead of letting him absorb everything in his rookie year. I guess the question is, what is he still allowed to attend while on IR ?

 

[DaBruinz]

Thats confusing.

IIRC they have until CoB on Thursday to make 2 roster moves (so TB12 and Nink) can rejoin the team

If I am comprehending correctly what Howe is saying, the Pats don't need to make a roster move until 10/10 (providing they apply for an extension)?

IF the Patriots have asked for Roster Exemptions for both Brady and Ninkovich, that is correct. But neither would be allowed to play in a game until they were put on the active roster..

 

[Deus Irae]

Technically at 51 since TB and Ninko still not activated ..

Brady and Nink are practicing/activated. It's just that they have the exemptions until Monday.

 

[DaBruinz]

I disagree, at least partially. Obviously playing in those 2.5 games was a great experience for him. More importantly he showed the coaches he has the right mentality to be a successful QB in the NFL.....someday.

However do not dismiss the value of being on the team every day, going to meetings to improve his understanding of the game, taking snaps in practice, even if most of them are on the scout team. There is also value in the coaching and skill development in the individual and group drills. All those things that he'll be missing if he goes on IR this early.

Now SOME of that might be mitigated if he's allowed to go to meetings and watch practices. But I'm not sure that's the current policy of how the team handle a player who goes on IR. It's my understanding that they basically cease to exist for the team, except for their rehabilitation.

I like the thought that if JB is put on IR another roster spot is taken care of. HOWEVER I think I'd rather have him on the field this season, even if it's only to "carry a clipboard"

All being on the IR does is prohibit Brissett from participating in practices and playing in games. He still can partake in all meetings..

 

[patfanken]

I am with you Ken.. I find it a bit curious that they send JB to IR instead of letting him absorb everything in his rookie year. I guess the question is, what is he still allowed to attend while on IR ?

I think Bfan gave us that info in the post above yours. According to him, he can still go to meetings, stay around the team, he just can't practice with them anymore.

 

[Deus Irae]

Down to 53:

Patriots placing QB Jacoby Brissett on IR today with thumb injury. Also frees up roster space for another QB...

 

[SVN]

 

[luuked]

I think Bfan gave us that info in the post above yours. According to him, he can still go to meetings, stay around the team, he just can't practice with them anymore.

Yeah, I am still curious about physical things like working on fundamentals and his mechanics. I suppose he can do it individually with any coach he "hires" but I am not sure if he is allowed to get instructions from the Pats coaching staff in that regard.

Apart form that it's quite clever to IR him because he'd only take practice reps away from JG.

 

[long distance]

Brady and Nink are practicing/activated. It's just that they have the exemptions until Monday.

Not really .. they could f.e. still not activate Ninko for the game.


They most probably will - especially with McClellin out and Freeny banged up - hence “technically“.

 

[long distance]

I was thinking the same thing for the whole thread already.
Still up to 3 moves possible (2 DT, 1 RB).

As posted above they used Karras at DT for practice .. but its hard to believe he would be #3 DT and in rotation. #4 purely back up option .. well with BB thats already a possibility.

But it would be a major surprise if at least one of A Johnson, Hamilton is not added (as also already discussed here).

The question is who gets cut? (Hopefully not another guy on IR, especially Valentine)

 

[long distance]

Hmm.. Does this mean Valentine could still go .. and hence no moves at DT?



That would certainly be a great news .. short and longterm ..

EDIT:

BTW - the report today was no major concerns with Blount but going in the game with only one banged up big back is a bit risky. There will be more of White (maybe even Foster) with TB back .. still a reasonable possibility they promote Sankey.

Would be nice to see what he's got with the Pats ..