PostGame Thread Patriots Lose to the Dolphins 15-10, Drop to 1-4

[festy1986]

Normal continuous motion of taking a step

That's subjective.

 

[festy1986]

I think you don’t understand what delay means. The foot came down, in one motion, with one part touching first and the rest right after.

Besides the point you're making, how does what you're saying here undermine my understanding of what delay means?

 

[Ring 6]

The delay is that between the time his toes established inside the end zone with possession and the time the rest of his foot was out of bounds the play is dead and ruled successful.

The same exact scenario that occured yesterday would result in a TD had any other part of his body landed outside of bounds, while his toe was in bounds and then continued onward to his heel being out of bounds.

So what changes in that scenario?

That is not a delay. The natural time it takes for your foot to complete a landing is not a delay

Your second paragraph is wrong. If another body part landed IN BOUNDS he is down and the second foot irrelevant. If it landed OUT OF BOUNDS before the second was was COMPLETELY in bounds that’s not a catch for that reason too.

 

[Ring 6]

That's subjective.

Huh? Gravity says otherwise.

 

[Ring 6]

Besides the point you're making, how does what you're saying here undermine my understanding of what delay means?

What is the “delay”? His is it different than any other step by a human where the foot lands anything but flat? His is a normal, regular occurrence a delay?

 

[notex]

Can’t even say our kicking game was good this week

Honestly one of the worst pat’s games I’ve ever watched

 

[signbabybrady]

Besides the point you're making, how does what you're saying here undermine my understanding of what delay means?

His toe came down and his heel immediately followed there is no delay. Had he stayed up on his toes for an elongated period of time or if another body part had enough time to come down before the heel you might be onto something but this was one continuous motion.

 

[festy1986]

That is not a delay. The natural time it takes for your foot to complete a landing is not a delay

Your second paragraph is wrong. If another body part landed IN BOUNDS he is down and the second foot irrelevant. If it landed OUT OF BOUNDS before the second was was COMPLETELY in bounds that’s not a catch for that reason too.

The fact that the delay is not outlined means it is up for interpretation. Define delay here.

 

[signbabybrady]

Can’t even say our kicking game was good this week

Honestly one of the worst pat’s games I’ve ever watched

I compared this game to that Bills v Pats game with the 40 mile and hour winds. Except obviously no winds as an excuse.

 

[turkeyneck]

Typical NYJFL ad hoc rule making.

Two toes in and then any other body part except heel touches out - catch

Unless two toes in and one heel out - no catch

This comes about because NYJFL is trying to analogize toe in then heel out with the reverse - heel in and toe out. At first glance this makes sense. But if, instead of heel, we substitute any other body part then we get the opposite result.

The only resolution is that any parts of two feet in before any other body part (including other portions of the feet) out, then catch.

 

[signbabybrady]

The fact that the delay is not outlined means it is up for interpretation. Define delay here.

It is defined you just don't want to accept what a normal continuous step is

 

[Toofy]

Mayo’s press conferences sound moronic. “It’s about execution” for every answer. Bud, who is responsible for making sure the team is executing??

Mayo sounds like someone who got hired because of a promise or pact and not based on credentials.


He is seriously on path to get fired mid season. He is that bad both on field and off field as a coach.

The Patricia years seem golden now...

Sorry Matt, we were too harsh on you

 

[archstanton543]

Typical NYJFL ad hoc rule making.

Two toes in and then any other body part except heel touches out - catch

Unless two toes in and one heel out - no catch

This comes about because NYJFL is trying to analogize toe in then heel out with the reverse - heel in and toe out. At first glance this makes sense. But if, instead of heel, we substitute any other body part then we get the opposite result.

The only resolution is that any parts of two feet in before any other body part (including other portions of the feet) out, then catch.

I bet if Kelce did that toe-heel thing, they'd have given it to him and the ref analysts would tie themselves in knots trying to justify why it was a TD.

 

[Ring 6]

The fact that the delay is not outlined means it is up for interpretation. Define delay here.

Oxford says:

a period of time by which something is late or postponed.

The landing of the hero was not late or postponed. It was part of the step, and happened in the normal time frame that human steps happen.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Can’t even say our kicking game was good this week

Honestly one of the worst pat’s games I’ve ever watched

Thankfully, there were some fun moments like the Gonzo INT and Schooler block.

 

[Ring 6]

Typical NYJFL ad hoc rule making.

Two toes in and then any other body part except heel touches out - catch

Unless two toes in and one heel out - no catch

This comes about because NYJFL is trying to analogize toe in then heel out with the reverse - heel in and toe out. At first glance this makes sense. But if, instead of heel, we substitute any other body part then we get the opposite result.

The only resolution is that any parts of two feet in before any other body part (including other portions of the feet) out, then catch.

So you would want to be able to stand with your foot partly out of bounds and catch the ball and that’s ok?

The reason a different body part is different is that you are down when a different body part touches down. One knee = two feet.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in Washington. Obviously better coaching and rookie QB lighting it up. Ekeler might of been a good add for Brissett as a security blanket. At least they were able to hold onto all that money. I’m sure they’ll use it “next” offseason.

 

[Ring 6]

The fact that the delay is not outlined means it is up for interpretation. Define delay here.

Now we have reached the point that you arguing you can make up what words mean.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Is 8 pressures allowed by the center good? Just asking for a friend.

 

[archstanton543]

Meanwhile they are 4-1 in Washington. Obviously better coaching and rookie QB lighting it up. Ekeler might of been a good add for Brissett as a security blanket. At least they were able to hold onto all that money. I’m sure they’ll use it “next” offseason.

Different team with different players. If we drafted Daniels, he'd be sitting too.