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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Tampa gave up more for Gruden.....and by the way:
When was the last time an NFL owner gave up a 1st round draft pick for a Head Coach????
I’ll await the answer with baited breath.
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Tampa gave up more for Gruden
You also have to give credit for Hess having the courtesy of dying and leaving the ***** Johnson owning the team. Otherwise, Kraft hiring BB maybe be moot.
Tampa gave up more for Gruden
Nobody said Gruden or anyone else is the equal to BBOnly once this century.
18,years ago. The year AFTER the Pats win their 1st SB and Glazer decided to copycat Kraft.
In his first year, Grudens team wins the Super Bowl with Dungy’s players and DC Monte Kiffin. They were mediocre thereafter until Gruden was fired in 2009.
Thank you.
.....and by the way:
When was the last time an NFL owner gave up a 1st round draft pick for a Head Coach????
I’ll await the answer with baited breath.
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I see that you're still fighting the good fight. Bless you.
Does Miami's loss of a 1st rounder (and a huge fine) for tampering to get Don Shula count? That was only 49 years ago.
I have another question too. When was the last time that an NYFL owner lost a first round pick for his team because he didn't stand up for them? I can't think of another, unless you want to count the one they're about to lose in the next draft.
.....and consider this - - - when he fired Pete Carroll for not measuring up to the new Patriot standards, he fired the BEST WINNING PERCENTAGE Patriot coach in franchise history.
List of New England Patriots head coaches - Wikipedia
That's an owner who doesn't settle for anything less than excellence.
I think he's a great owner, BUT, Kraft has the GOAT team, GOAT QB and the GOAT HC and he's perfectly willing to let them all be labelled as cheaters so he can keep in good standing with Goody and the other 31.
W-H-A-T could he have done? (no comic book options)
I'm waiting.
The HC with the best won-loss record in Patriots history (before BB) was Kraft's only HC firing in his ownership to date.
Think about that for a second.
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No need to wait. I'm sometimes busy but will always take the time to respond to respectful posters eventually.
Kraft could have fought for his GOATers. I don't think he did that in either case, certainly not like he's doing now to help his own DOM reputation.
The fact that he didn't fight for his team and players back then now leaves the team in a worse situation. Fraudger will now piggy back those phony baloney penalties in the past to over-penalize the Pats now.
I remember discussions here at the time of Crygate and Defamegate as to what Kraft could do. Many here claimed that he couldn't sue the NYFL because of their by-laws. Yet, when we looked at the Rams' move to LA there were owners who weren't willing to get in the way because they were worried that the Rams owner would sue the NYFL.
Once again, Kraft is a great owner but he has clearly earned the nickname Bendover Bob. And the legacies of the GOAT QB and GOAT HC are paying the price now.
I thought about it and I'm not that impressed. There were some bad coaching records in the Pats history, even including Belichick's first year. That all changed with Brady.