PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots Beat the Giants 33-15 (10th Straight Win)

[Triumph]

It's true that the Giants have some good players and a QB on a rookie contract. It's also true that they are right up against the cap this year and next, which shows that the GM is a good deal of the problem.

I would take BB today.

The Giants are undisciplined and looked unprepared.

BB isn't a NCAA football HC. Belichicks methods still apply to this NFL and Vrable is a student of BB. Look at the players that BB chose who are stepping up this season - Marc Jones, Boutte, Mapu, Gonzalez, Pop, Rahm, Barmore, A Jennings. Nope, my first HC qualification is a guy who has prior NFL HC experience and my second qualification is a guy who has a Super Bowl championship under his belt. Belichick would have little trouble assembling a staff too.

 

[Brady to Maye]

I think the NY Giants are going to go after Bill Belichick.

 

[Ring 6]

The more likely scenario is next year we’re 7-6 or 8-5 at this time of year. I think we’ll have a second winning season next year but it’s hard to go 11-2. We aren’t a dynasty *yet*

What? You are just waving a wand and making them 3-4 games worse for no reason?

 

[mike_usagisan]

I think the NY Giants are going to go after Bill Belichick.

I think the Carroll era in Las Vegas is a warning sign for over-the-hill coaches. Look who has had success this year: Vrabel in NE and Ben Johnson with the Bears. The Giants need to find their hot coach who has had a lot of experience and has a plan to reshape the whole organization.

 

[Gumby]

I would take BB today.

The Giants are undisciplined and looked unprepared.

BB isn't a NCAA football HC. Belichicks methods still apply to this NFL and Vrable is a student of BB. Look at the players that BB chose who are stepping up this season - Marc Jones, Boutte, Mapu, Gonzalez, Pop, Rahm, Barmore, A Jennings. Nope, my first HC qualification is a guy who has prior NFL HC experience and my second qualification is a guy who has a Super Bowl championship under his belt. Belichick would have little trouble assembling a staff too.

I was head-bobbing with you until this last one.

That was kinda a big part of the problem his last several years in NE. Now that all his protoges are spread to the 4 winds; MAYBE he could pull them back together .... but more likely is he would need to find new 'guys he trusts' and he just wasnt terribly good at finding NEW guys like that.
I get there should be tons of folks who would like the resume enhancer of "worked under BB". But he didnt want to expand his tree at the end and we got stuck w/ the DC running the offense. so what is new now that he is 4 yeas older and crotchety-er

 

[Triumph]

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[Triumph]

 

[The Gr8est]

Lowe & behold….

If Lowe plays like that for the rest of the season, this LT who so many here wanted banished, would likely bring a good trade return if the Pats were willing to move him.

3rd rounder?

Of course, if he plays that well he would be worth keeping as the backup.

 

[Triumph]

I was head-bobbing with you until this last one.

That was kinda a big part of the problem his last several years in NE. Now that all his protoges are spread to the 4 winds; MAYBE he could pull them back together .... but more likely is he would need to find new 'guys he trusts' and he just wasnt terribly good at finding NEW guys like that.
I get there should be tons of folks who would like the resume enhancer of "worked under BB". But he didnt want to expand his tree at the end and we got stuck w/ the DC running the offense. so what is new now that he is 4 yeas older and crotchety-er

Patricia would come back. Judge would come back. Saban isnt working.

Could BB pry Mcdaniels away from NE to screw the Krafts?

 

[The Gr8est]

I would take BB today.

The Giants are undisciplined and looked unprepared.

BB isn't a NCAA football HC. Belichicks methods still apply to this NFL and Vrable is a student of BB. Look at the players that BB chose who are stepping up this season - Marc Jones, Boutte, Mapu, Gonzalez, Pop, Rahm, Barmore, A Jennings. Nope, my first HC qualification is a guy who has prior NFL HC experience and my second qualification is a guy who has a Super Bowl championship under his belt. Belichick would have little trouble assembling a staff too.

Pats got lucky that Vrabel was available. It never seemed right to me watching him coach the Titans, he even scooped the Pats during the draft by drafting Patriots-type players before we could get him.

It just felt like he belonged here, and I am glad he is home.

Sometimes we forget how hard it is to find a great HC, and kudos to Kraft for moving on from Mayo when both Vrabel and Ben Johnson were available.

BB might be the best available option, at least short term, for the Giants, and I would like to see him get the all time wins record.

 

[Brady to Maye]

If Lowe plays like that for the rest of the season, this LT who so many here wanted banished, would likely bring a good trade return if the Pats were willing to move him.

3rd rounder?

Of course, if he plays that well he would be worth keeping as the backup.

I think that is way too early to think about that. Let have play 2 or 3 good games in a row. He was bad last year. Consistency is the key.

 

[1960Pats]

Win it this year. I don’t want to hear “we’ll be back”. Just get it done this year

Pats face LA in the SB for Silence of the Rams III.

This season has been eerily similar to 2001.

 

[The Gr8est]

Pats face LA in the SB for Silence of the Rams III.

This season has been eerily similar to 2001.

It ain’t over until Ricky Proehl proclaims the next dynasty.

 

[manxman2601]

Spot Abdul Carter in this pic

 

[Real fan 02]

Agreed.

With what we have seen with the Pats’ improvement this year, and the expected FA influx and draft additions, that schedule doesn’t seem daunting to me.

Agreed here.

I fully anticipate a ferocious pass rush.. a more potent offense with additions at TE, WR,.. and of course other spots on the roster. The schedule doesn't seem all that worrisome either. The standard has been restored in NE Again.

 

[Thelonious]

Heh. I thought they'd lose. You will be happy to know I am also predicting a 2nd Great Depression.

 

[The Gr8est]

Spot Abdul Carter in this pic

People too often forget about the makeup of a player beyond talent.

Love Will Campbell’s make up. He was the clear choice for the Pats if both were available.

 

[mayoclinic]

I was never a Carter fan, didn't think a part-time WR/part-time CB merited that high a pick. Pats got the best fit of talent/need possible at #4 (though I did have Tyler Warren and Jalon Walker graded higher than Campbell).

Campbell's mental makeup is a perfect fit for Mike Vrabel.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Campbell's mental makeup is a perfect fit for Mike Vrabel.

And a perfect fit for Drake too.

 

[Dec54]

Heh. I thought they'd lose. You will be happy to know I am also predicting a 2nd Great Depression.

God you are cheerful.