Barmore Benching

[PatsWickedPissah]

I thought that incident was one of the rookies, not Barmore.

It was rookie Ponder who did not play

 

[Nehalem]

Did you even watch football from 2000 to 2020?

Belichick frequently benched players for a quarter for not following team rules.

Hopefully Barmore puts his best foot forward from here on out.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Hopefully Barmore puts his best foot forward from here on out.

Let’s ask Rex Ryan about this

 

[Bill Lee]

Mike use the term “…protect the team”

That felt pretty ominous to me...

What could a player do to harm the entire team?

 

[denverpatsfan]

I trust Vrabel to handle this properly. The team has really responded to his coaching and mentoring. A breath of fresh air after the previous regime. Truly time to have a coach who can relate and knows how to motivate the younger generation of players. The BB way is over. Just look south to UNC. How's that working???

 

[PatsFan2]

I trust Vrabel to handle this properly. The team has really responded to his coaching and mentoring. A breath of fresh air after the previous regime. Truly time to have a coach who can relate and knows how to motivate the younger generation of players. The BB way is over. Just look south to UNC. How's that working???

Don't say that his Defenders will have you tarred and feathered.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I trust Vrabel to handle this properly. The team has really responded to his coaching and mentoring. A breath of fresh air after the previous regime. Truly time to have a coach who can relate and knows how to motivate the younger generation of players. The BB way is over. Just look south to UNC. How's that working???

I think Vrabel will handle it correctly too, but we'll have to see. I think it's interesting that we haven't heard what it's about yet. You know every Pats reporter is trying to find out. Vrabel's going to have malcontents and problem players. How he deals with Barmore will probably point to how he'll deal with future ones as well.

 

[Ross12]

At this time, it's pointless to really speculate much because we just don't know anything. A player was benched for one quarter, the player has said nothing about it and the coach said he had to "make a decision to protect the team". That's about it, no actual detail about what happened. The player and coach both outwardly appeared to interact well so if the player was not benched for the quarter, we would probably not even have known anything happened at all.

I'd say we should probably just go forward as if nothing happened until such time that something else happens or we get substantially more info.

 

[Bill Lee]

I think Vrabel will handle it correctly too, but we'll have to see. I think it's interesting that we haven't heard what it's about yet. You know every Pats reporter is trying to find out. Vrabel's going to have malcontents and problem players. How he deals with Barmore will probably point to how he'll deal with future ones as well.

I think we also have to remember that one complaint about him in TEN was that he was too old-school for modern-era players, players were tuning him out, yada yada. It seems Vrabel will just do what he does old-school style which is IMO a good thing, but at some point the push for cultural purity could perhaps cost the team some talented players.

 

[turkeyneck]

I wonder if this is an outgrowth of something that began last year and wasn't handled then, leading Barmore to get too far out over his skis this year.

 

[BadMoFo]

Was Ellis also benched. Seems like Giddens was playing a lot more than usual.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

I got benched for a half once (basketball) and it taught me nothing and was soon forgotten (although here I am sharing it decades later ... so maybe...???)

 

[mike_usagisan]

I think we also have to remember that one complaint about him in TEN was that he was too old-school for modern-era players, players were tuning him out, yada yada. It seems Vrabel will just do what he does old-school style which is IMO a good thing, but at some point the push for cultural purity could perhaps cost the team some talented players.

Yes, although there have been reports that he has softened his approach since Tennessee. So we'll see. We're very much in the honeymoon phase with Vrabel. We'll see what it's like when the $#!% hits the fan.

 

[Real fan 02]

Weird sour note from yesterday, wonder what that’s about

Mike Vrabel says he benched Christian Barmore to ‘protect the team’

Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel said that it was his call to bench defensive tackle Christian Barmore in the first quarter on Sunday.

www.boston.com

Bedard told the Herald it was a relatively small infraction..

 

[Ring 6]

Was Ellis also benched. Seems like Giddens was playing a lot more than usual.

Ellis’s played 39 snaps. Hes just invisible

If anyone wants a great example of why I think he is awful watch him on the jet sweep play they broke for a good gain.
No LB with LB instincts would ever react the way he did. And it happens all the time. He just doesn’t think like a LB

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Not sure one hug in the hallway tells us much about the true state of affairs.

I watched the whole tunnel video. The hu

That's one way to look at it. Another is that no one outside the team knew about it till yesterday and now Barmore is going to keep getting asked about it over and over again by friends, family, reporters, etc. Could be that what we thought was over Sunday is only going to come back to life later today, this week, or this season.

Seems he did not talk to the media after the game so he's not thrilled about it. Who would be? One big sign of it really being over would be him telling the media the penalty was fair and it's all water under the bridge, but we didn't get that.

The whole idea of the penalty is to act as a deterrent. Some times that's how things play out: the penalized party realized they did something wrong, accepts the penalty and changes their behavior. Other times the party being penalized doesn't think the penalty is fair and resentment builds.

Not sure one hug in the hallway tells us much about the true state of affairs.

I watched the whole tunnel video. The hug with Barmore was longer than with other players and they said something to each other.
It certainly looked sincere.

 

[Thelonious]

Insignificant at this point, ain't it?

 

[Gumby]

I thought Weds off was a medical thing related to last year's blood clots.

Could be; …..but it is always listed as „did not participate; non-health related“
So don’t tell gotohell it has to do w blood clots or we’ll lose a draft pick

 

[imahobgoblin]

I don’t really like the “benching for a quarter” thing if we’re being honest. Not sure what it accomplishes, and it’s very public.

Why does it matter what you don't like? Were you waiting from Vrabes to ask your permission or something? The dude has pulled off a miracle and changed the culture overnight without your input. I am sure it will be just fine.

 

[imahobgoblin]

I got benched for a half once (basketball) and it taught me nothing and was soon forgotten (although here I am sharing it decades later ... so maybe...???)

There is a bonehead on every team who is just too self-focused to get the bigger picture.