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Are we ignoring the recent Guerrero news?

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You're suggesting that big Pharma doesn't really want us to live a healthy, long life, but rather a miserable one tied to them to keep us popping pills ?


That's another angle. I wasn't thinking so much "keep 'em sick" conspiracy as "follow the money" facts of life.
 
Turned on Zo and Bertram, later joined by Breer. Balless Zo kind of sat back and let Bertram run with his version of some grand conspiracy and for some reason Bertram wanted me to wind up disliking BB for this heinous activity. He is slowly turning into a "Felger mini me", lots of bluster few facts, and any Pats activity has some sort of sinister plot behind it...

It seemed obvious that Zolak was at a deliberate advantage as he seemed to know more about the situation and was not able to break the confidence placed in him. Without regard he could have asserted himself more and stymied the conspiracy discussion..

After about 10 minutes back to Pandora.. which is becoming the norm more and more. Insufferable, pompous bores...

There is no way Bertrand can be considered a "mini" anything. He's got to be 4 bills easily. But I'm sure his take on healthy living is totally valid.
 
The media's really trying to spin this story. Like it will be a big distraction for the team. Give me a break.
 
Brady will always be our QB, but Guerero comes off like a quack.

Like a snake oil salesman, he's convinced Brady that his methods work. Kinda like how placebos convince people they are no longer sick.
That's what I think is happening here. Brady clearly believes in Guerrero. When you hear Brady talking and him, he sounds like he is in a religious cult discussing the leader.

So the placebo effect could certainly be in play big time.
 
Turned on Zo and Bertram, later joined by Breer. Balless Zo kind of sat back and let Bertram run with his version of some grand conspiracy and for some reason Bertram wanted me to wind up disliking BB for this heinous activity. He is slowly turning into a "Felger mini me", lots of bluster few facts, and any Pats activity has some sort of sinister plot behind it...

It seemed obvious that Zolak was at a deliberate advantage as he seemed to know more about the situation and was not able to break the confidence placed in him. Without regard he could have asserted himself more and stymied the conspiracy discussion..

After about 10 minutes back to Pandora.. which is becoming the norm more and more. Insufferable, pompous bores...
I've posted this before in other forms, but (Bo)Zo morphs into a eunuch in the event of the mildest Bertrand challenge. He always defers meekly, often in a voice barely above a whisper.
 
There is no way Bertrand can be considered a "mini" anything. He's got to be 4 bills easily. But I'm sure his take on healthy living is totally valid.
His idea of healthy living is cheesy pork rinds served on a bed of lettuce
 
There is no way Bertrand can be considered a "mini" anything. He's got to be 4 bills easily. But I'm sure his take on healthy living is totally valid.
Yeah, but he's a handsome SOB...
 
You're suggesting that big Pharma doesn't really want us to live a healthy, long life, but rather a miserable one tied to them to keep us popping pills ?


An example of what I am talking about: use of the ketogenic diet to treat epilepsy. Read about Charlie

The Charlie Foundation for Ketogenic Therapies
In 1993, 11 month old Charlie Abrahams developed difficult to control epilepsy. As a last resort, while Charlie was experiencing multiple daily seizures and multiple daily medications, his parents turned to a Ketogenic Diet for help. The diet worked. Charlie became seizure and drug free within a month. He was on the diet for five years and now eats whatever he wants. He has never had another seizure.

The Charlie Foundation for Ketogenic Therapies was founded in 1994 to provide information about diet therapies for people with epilepsy, other neurological disorders and select cancers.

Epilepsy’s Big Fat Miracle
What astonished Abrahams and helped drive his effort to publicize the diet was that keto was not a new idea. It was first used as a medical treatment for epilepsy in the 1920s. The principles underlying the diet have been around since Hippocrates touched on them nearly 2,500 years ago. Starvation had long been one approach to treating epilepsy. Deny the patient food for, say, a week and often their seizures went away. But there were obvious limits on how long starvation could be used as a treatment. In the 1920s, researchers at the Mayo Clinic, looking for a way to treat diabetics, figured out that it was not fasting per se that helped control seizures. Rather, they found that it was what the body did during an extended fast that helped control them. Deprived of food, the human body starts burning body fat as fuel, and it was that process of ketosis that somehow had the antiepileptic effect. Trick the body into thinking it was starving by taking away its primary fuel of carbohydrates and forcing it to subsist on an all-fat diet, and you could create that antiepileptic effect as long as necessary.

The diet was quickly adopted and widely used through the 1930s. And then, almost as fast as it had appeared, the keto diet disappeared. When Dilantin was first used as an antiepileptic drug in 1938, its success steered medical minds toward pharmaceutical solutions. A generation later, the diet had been all but forgotten. There was no scientific evidence that it worked, after all. More important, it was incredibly difficult to administer. Even in the 1990s, Millicent Kelly, Charlie Abrahams’s dietitian at Johns Hopkins, was planning menus with a calculator and a legal pad.
 
After 20 pages (which were about 12 too many) and over 370 comments (which are about 250 too many, including my own ), the answer to the OP's original question, is, "No we ARE NOT ignoring the recent Guerrero news."
 
I am ignoring it. Have not read the thread.
 
At 48, I had an epiphany when it came to my health. I lost almost 40 lbs, and I live in the gym now. At 52, I can do things I couldn't do at 42 or maybe even 32. So it goes without saying that I watch TB12's body of work here late in his career with great interest. I believe that there may be something to what these guys are doing. You can't deny that Brady is excelling at age 40, when most his age are waiting for the call from Canton. I'm not quite ready to buy in and start forking over mortgage payments to the TB12 Method, but I am watching to see how it all unfolds. He may have unlocked the fountain of youth. He might be full of chit. Who knows, but I am watching to see how it goes. I can't be the only 50-something who's looking at this like this.

I had the same epiphany at 35 after I quit smoking. I've incorporated as much of the TB12 diet I can stand without wanting to stab myself. It really is the most boring diet ever, but it works. When I started playing organized softball again a few years ago, I was in pretty bad shape...back issues, weak arms, weak core, etc. Changing my diet, and getting back into real shape has caused me to be able to play infield again at 2B. I had been playing catcher the first 3 seasons due to my back problems. I've fixed my back issues through yoga, and now I'm salivating at the upcoming season, as I wanna try for shortstop.

I'm turning 40 in a month, and I feel like I'm 21. I plan on proclaiming my age ironically every chance I get after my birthday lol.
 
That's what I think is happening here. Brady clearly believes in Guerrero. When you hear Brady talking and him, he sounds like he is in a religious cult discussing the leader.

So the placebo effect could certainly be in play big time.

He's a 40 year old all time great placebo?
 
I had the same epiphany at 35 after I quit smoking. I've incorporated as much of the TB12 diet I can stand without wanting to stab myself. It really is the most boring diet ever, but it works. When I started playing organized softball again a few years ago, I was in pretty bad shape...back issues, weak arms, weak core, etc. Changing my diet, and getting back into real shape has caused me to be able to play infield again at 2B. I had been playing catcher the first 3 seasons due to my back problems. I've fixed my back issues through yoga, and now I'm salivating at the upcoming season, as I wanna try for shortstop.

I'm turning 40 in a month, and I feel like I'm 21. I plan on proclaiming my age ironically every chance I get after my birthday lol.

Can't wait to turn 60 eh? I got good news ...and I got bad news.

The good is "it's good to be the king". After 60 you feel..."think I'll stick around for more of this.."

The bad news..."I went to the doctor last week, he gave me two weeks to live....I couldn't pay him...he gave me another six months"

My philosophy on life at this point? JUST KEEP BREATHING...

good luck and keep on keeping on...
 
I've read more that I want to about this soap opera but this is believable to me.

Guerrero is so righteous and invested in his goofy theraputics he is incapable of collaboration and rejects different methods .

If also true he is also a ****ty businessman. Think about it. His partner is Brady. He has an "in" to every single NFL player and franchise. Hes been helping the GOAT and the dynasty stay healthy. Every NFL team potentially wants what he does for them. All he needs to do is be cool with team doctors and trainers. What does he do? He locks horns with BB and undermines his staff.

Moron.
Your long-distance assessment of Guerrero makes sense, but of course none of us can know.

The one point where I'd disagree is that "Every NFL team potentially wants what he does for them."

I'm not sure that this is potentially a multi-team business. For example, if he's working both with the Pats and Steelers, I doubt the Pats would want someone working with the Steelers to know what's really up with Brady's "Achilles" and I suspect the Steelers would feel the same way about someone working with the Pats knowing too much about Brown's "Calf."

It would probably be possible to work with individuals, unrelated to their teams, but the line would have to be defined extremely carefully.
 
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