Are we ignoring the recent Guerrero news?

[farn]

True but i think it's more than just steroids. It's stuff to help the body recover fast. I personally feel brady has alwayss been clean. Players take care of their bodies a lot more than what they used to. Also you have players protected more. They don't take the vicious hits like they used to.

I suspect them all. Using more and more sneaky substances.

 

[bormio]

Just another day for the national media of “How can we talk about the Patriots today so people might actually listen”.

 

[RayClay]

I said in the future. He has never been linked to steroids but he's a just a shady individual. Idk. Either way I trust brady has always been clean compared to forehead Manning. It's just hard for me to fathom a guy coming back from serious neck surgery to posting these incredible numbers.

Oh, so you're scientific analysis is he's just a shady individual so he will be shooting steroids and heroin into the players.

Why mention Manning who actually tok illegal substances? You're all over the map with accusations based on nothing. I suggest you stop thinking, you could be overheating.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Mike Mutnansky is a completely fraudulent little dweeb who needs his goddamned face punched in....rotten little scumbag is a true shyt eater

2 DUIs ..a real winner too.

 

[Vindicate]

I like the "contrived controversy" tag that sneeked in haha.

 

[VectorPrime]

Maybe EEI is different I don't listen to them but Literally every guy on 98.5 is firmly on Bills side on this issue so I'm not sure how the media is "bashing" or "critizing" how the team is run. Bashing Guerrro is defending the team.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Oh, so you're scientific analysis is he's just a shady individual so he will be shooting steroids and heroin into the players.

Why mention Manning who actually tok illegal substances? You're all over the map with accusations based on nothing. I suggest you stop thinking, you could be overheating.

Dude have you seen his forehead? I mentioned manning because of that report unless you believe it was for his wife. I have a right to my opinion. I never said he's giving out steroids but he's a strange individual.

 

[Bruins29]

he's a strange individual.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Could you please explain why you believe I have an axe to grind against the pharmaceutical industry, and which of my opinion(s) is/are unsubstantiated, and why?

Furthermore, while we're in the business of making assumptions about one's particular interest(s), I say we stop the guesses and simply disclose our links and respective experiences (if any) with the healthcare industry.

I have never worked in the field of health coverage and have no immediate plans to do so. I've been prescribed medications over the years, some of which have been successful, others have not. I've been appreciative of those treatments which worked, and hold no grudge against those which have not. I have also used "alternative medicines" for various ailments and, much like my experience with prescription medications, I've found some to be successful, others not so much. I'm not beholden to either approach and consider myself to be well aware of the strengths and weaknesses that each respective approach brings to the table.

I'm fortunate to have not suffered from many illnesses in my life and therefore have been able to avoid much time in doctors' offices and hospitals.

I care not for your worthless anecdotes about healthcare. Your opinion, via your posts in this thread, speaks for itself entirely. Your attempt to set up a some kind of strawman argument by seeking my qualifications in order to defend a horrible opinion is funny as well.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

True, but even when it "works"

Does drinking extra water mean that you don't ever need sunscreen?

Does sprinkling in a little magic dust into your water ward off inflammation, cancer, CTE, and the heartbreak of psoriasis?

Does it also rid your body of toxins?

Does it adjust your body's pH?

I am sure that many of the guy's ideas are great: healthy food, stretching, resistance training...

but he also very frequently goes down into the goofy deep end of the woo pool.

Well said!! Guerrero is a glorified masseuse and Brady is a guy always in need of a binky. As strong as Brady is on the football field he's seemingly pretty weak aka a follower off the field. What's amazing is how the Patriots let this clown bill them for his services. They give him his own office?? Thank God Brady never puts himself above the team.

 

[bormio]

Well said!! Guerrero is a glorified masseuse and Brady is a guy always in need of a binky. As strong as Brady is on the football field he's seemingly pretty weak aka a follower off the field. What's amazing is how the Patriots let this clown bill them for his services. They give him his own office?? Thank God Brady never puts himself above the team.

Wow ..... there are no words

 

[Bruins29]

Brady is a guy always in need of a binky. As strong as Brady is on the football field he's seemingly pretty weak aka a follower off the field.

Everything he does off the field is what makes him so tough on the field.

 

[catent]

I care not for your worthless anecdotes about healthcare. Your opinion, via your posts in this thread, speaks for itself entirely. Your attempt to set up a some kind of strawman argument by seeking my qualifications in order to defend a horrible opinion is funny as well.

I offered no anecdotes and made no attempt to establish a strawman; I only made an attempt to be entirely transparent about my relationship with the healthcare system since that is apparently of importance to you, and given how readily you criticized my crendentials (or supposed lack thereof) I find it odd than you're unwilling to be equally transparent about your relationship with the heahcare system and your credentials (or lack thereof).

Yet you have no problem taking potshots from the sideline, without actually engaging in any kind of substantive discussion in which you offer any opinion of your own. You're welcome to call my opinion horrible, but unless you're willing to explain why you think such, and provide a compelling counter opinion, your rhetoric is hollow and baseless.

Although I don't expect you to make any attempt to engage in meaningful discourse, I do wonder why you were so personally offended by my relatively uncontroversial musings about the American healthcare system.

I don't even know what part of my post(s) you take issue with.

That the American healthcare system generally prioritizes treatment over prevention of illness?
That there are individuals in the American healthcare system who prioritize revenue over the health of patients?
That diseases such as type II diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and obesity are being generally approached in the wrong way?
That treatment of health issues should involve more than maintenance via medication, but rather should entail lifestyle changes that aim to treat/cure the underlying issue(s) so that recovery can occur?

Those are the majority of my claims, and I see nothing controversial about the aforementioned.

I was equally willing to admit that not all alternative treatments are effective and that there are individuals involved with alternative medicine who are not doing so in a good faith to improve health, but rather to make money. It goes both ways and the objective facts demonstrate this. Again, I don't think I said anything particularly controversial.

Something like homeopathy is without a doubt bogus. But other "alternative" medicines, such as turmeric/curcumin and saffron have strong science behind them, to name a couple... there are plenty more.

Then we have antibiotics and vaccines which are undoubtedly massive successes of western medicine, to name a few, but we have plenty of evidence demonstrating the hawkish marketing and overprescribing of opiate painkillers, which has had devastating effects on American society.

You'll find plenty of examples that fall into each category: good and bad forms/applications of western medicine, good and bad forms/applications of "alternative" medicine.

I find it somewhat humorous and difficult to understand that things such as eating a healthy diet primarily consisting of fruits, vegetables, whole/unprocessed grains, and plenty of fiber, along with getting ample exercise -- while avoiding diets that we know to be harmful to health, is now considered to be controversial.

I suppose the discussion I was attempting to have didn't touch on specifics, so perhaps my attempt to offer up and delve into some specific examples will help to clarify my position.

 

[FCB02062]

I think Guerrero is a snake oil salesman, but his obsession/emphasis with hydration is really true...it all starts with proper hydration....
I challenge anyone, go out and drink 8, 10, 12, 14 beers - whatever takes u to get schittfaced...wake up the next morning and remember how u feel... Next weekend do the same, drink same amount of beers but also drink a 16 oz water for every beer...you'll feel a complete 180 from the weekend before!
It all comes back to beer

 

[bormio]

I think Guerrero is a snake oil salesman, but his obsession/emphasis with hydration is really true...it all starts with proper hydration....
I challenge anyone, go out and drink 8, 10, 12, 14 beers - whatever takes u to get schittfaced...wake up the next morning and remember how u feel... Next weekend do the same, drink same amount of beers but also drink a 16 oz water for every beer...you'll feel a complete 180 from the weekend before!
It all comes back to beer

3 beers - liver not revved up.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I think Guerrero is a snake oil salesman, but his obsession/emphasis with hydration is really true...it all starts with proper hydration....
I challenge anyone, go out and drink 8, 10, 12, 14 beers - whatever takes u to get schittfaced...wake up the next morning and remember how u feel... Next weekend do the same, drink same amount of beers but also drink a 16 oz water for every beer...you'll feel a complete 180 from the weekend before!
It all comes back to beer

You buyin' ?

 

[mosslost]

I think Guerrero is a snake oil salesman, but his obsession/emphasis with hydration is really true...it all starts with proper hydration....
I challenge anyone, go out and drink 8, 10, 12, 14 beers - whatever takes u to get schittfaced...wake up the next morning and remember how u feel... Next weekend do the same, drink same amount of beers but also drink a 16 oz water for every beer...you'll feel a complete 180 from the weekend before!
It all comes back to beer

I believe that much liquid intake can actually kill you (the water and the beer)
Can I Die From Drinking Too Much Water?

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Wow ..... there are no words

Correct.... there are no words. The QB of the team has his own private masseuse flying on the team plane, hanging on the sidelines, gets him an office in Gillette, this glorified masseuse starts causing friction among Patriot staff .... if this were ANY other QB ....any other player the label "prima donna" would flow from all directions.
Can you imagine the commentary here if this whole scenario was going on with Peyton Manning during his career, or with Aaron Rodgers now?? Ouch!!!

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Wow ..... there are no words

Correct.... there are no words. The QB of the team has his own private masseuse flying on the team plane, hanging on the sidelines, gets him an office in Gillette, this glorified masseuse starts causing friction among Patriot staff .... if this were ANY other QB ....any other player the label "prima donna" would flow from all directions.
Can you imagine the commentary here if this whole scenario was going on with Peyton Manning during his career, or with Aaron Rodgers now?? Ouch!!!

 

[Jackson 2]

Correct.... there are no words. The QB of the team has his own private masseuse flying on the team plane, hanging on the sidelines, gets him an office in Gillette, this glorified masseuse starts causing friction among Patriot staff .... if this were ANY other QB ....any other player the label "prima donna" would flow from all directions.
Can you imagine the commentary here if this whole scenario was going on with Peyton Manning during his career, or with Aaron Rodgers now?? Ouch!!!

Invalid argument since Peyton blew any chance he had of ever having a "glorified masseuse" during his pro career by forcibly sitting on the face of the one he had in college against her will.