Content Post Jets Suck -- 2017 Edition (Official): Countdown to Oblivion

[Huckleberry1]

No need to refer to history. I'm more than confident now. And who said anything about just one rookie? This team is full of very young talent. Next year's draft will certainly add key pieces, but that 1st round pick won't have to do it all by himself.

They young LBs drafted in 2016. The safeties drafted in 2017. A great dline. A young improving oline. A solid RB in Powell and a very good Quincy Enunwa.

Now figure a QB in the top 5. Then perhaps a WR or olineman early in the 2nd round. Two immediate starters right there. Free agency (with 90 mil in cap space) to fill a couple holes and things will be golden for 2018 and beyond.

Then why lose on purpose? Teams that are building don't teach losing.

 

[Huckleberry1]

No need to refer to history. I'm more than confident now. And who said anything about just one rookie? This team is full of very young talent. Next year's draft will certainly add key pieces, but that 1st round pick won't have to do it all by himself.

They young LBs drafted in 2016. The safeties drafted in 2017. A great dline. A young improving oline. A solid RB in Powell and a very good Quincy Enunwa.

Now figure a QB in the top 5. Then perhaps a WR or olineman early in the 2nd round. Two immediate starters right there. Free agency (with 90 mil in cap space) to fill a couple holes and things will be golden for 2018 and beyond.

Sorry, I didn't realize you were using the Rams model. That clearly works well. The J-E-T-E-S could have an offseason dynasty for years to come.

 

[JetFan79]

Then why lose on purpose? Teams that are building don't teach losing.

It's the only way to guarantee a top QB pick.

Now that in no way guarantees the QB will be any good, but ya gotta try.

The Jets very easily could have kept a couple vets... say Decker and Marshall. Then perhaps won 6 or 7 games with a worthless McCown. But then what in 2018?

Not be able to draft a top QB because they won too many games. So what, pay way too much for some free agent average QB? Then have no cap space left over because they didn't save any this year (Decker n Marshall) and spent whatever they had on a random QB.

No thanks.

I'll happily go the route the team is going now. I swear though, if McCown starts getting wins, imma be really freakin pissed. Hack or Petty winning is cool, but not McCown.

 

[JetFan79]

Then why lose on purpose? Teams that are building don't teach losing.

Who knows? We could end up with a franchise QB AND a franchise coach next year.

Jon Gruden says he’s preparing to coach again, but will he ever?

 

[Bill Lee]

Are there any JETE season ticket holders that aren't riding a unicorn or rainbow into 2018?

Given they're JETE fans, the unicorn ride they get ends up looking like:



Or:



And after the unicorn gets sick of having a Jete fan on its horn, the end result is:

 

[Bill Lee]

Jets claim Lucky Whitehead off waivers

Lucky? First you get accused of a crime you know you didn't do, then you get dumped by the Cowboys, and then you end up being a Jete?

 

[Tunescribe]

No need to refer to history. I'm more than confident now. And who said anything about just one rookie? This team is full of very young talent. Next year's draft will certainly add key pieces, but that 1st round pick won't have to do it all by himself.

They young LBs drafted in 2016. The safeties drafted in 2017. A great dline. A young improving oline. A solid RB in Powell and a very good Quincy Enunwa.

Now figure a QB in the top 5. Then perhaps a WR or olineman early in the 2nd round. Two immediate starters right there. Free agency (with 90 mil in cap space) to fill a couple holes and things will be golden for 2018 and beyond.

Wow -- now I get it! I'm winning the lottery next year. Got it all planned out: a cabin on Nantucket, a nice little hideaway on Key West. That's two immediate vacation spots right there. No travel expense (with $90 million from MegaMillions) and being able to go anywhere anytime, things will be golden for 2018 and beyond.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Wow -- now I get it! I'm winning the lottery next year. Got it all planned out: a cabin on Nantucket, a nice little hideaway on Key West. That's two immediate vacation spots right there. No travel expense (with $90 million from MegaMillions) and being able to go anywhere anytime, things will be golden for 2018 and beyond.

That 90 from MegaMillions puts you in dangerous cap territory, unless you take the annuitized payout.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

So yeah it is interesting to see the usual off-season super bowl claims converted to "we'll get 'em next year" before the season starts. Even fans w/bags over their heads usually wait at least a game or two.

But then again, you guys are playing the long game - strategery!

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

It never fails,
at some point in every season, Jets fans realize that their team sucks. Then they say "the draft will change everything! We will get the keys to a shiny sports car!

Then their management takes the keys to a AMC gremlin



At some point in the next season, Jets fans realize that their team sucks. Then they say "the draft will change everything! We will get the keys to a shiny sports car!

Then their management takes the keys to a Ford Pinto

At some point in the next season, Jets fans realize that their team sucks. Then they say "the draft will change everything! We will get the keys to a shiny sports car!

Then their management takes the keys to a Pontiac Aztek


At some point in the next season, Jets fans realize that their team sucks. Then they say "the draft will change everything! We will get the keys to a shiny sports car!

Then their management takes the keys to an AMC Pacer


And so it goes...

what comes next?


or maybe


or maybe


that's the lot that they shop in, perpetual suckage!

 

[Huckleberry1]

Who knows? We could end up with a franchise QB AND a franchise coach next year.

Jon Gruden says he’s preparing to coach again, but will he ever?

So the plan is " who knows?....."

Great plan.

 

[SEA_Pat]

It just gets better and better...
http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/st...h-causes-tom-brady-appear-new-york-jets-owner
Tom Brady owns the New York Jets, says Google search

 

[JetFan79]

So the plan is " who knows?....."

Great plan.

Hey, that's an upgrade compared to most Jete seasons lately.

 

[Joker]

right...you have struck on something there ,JetFan...maybe that IS the solution...Back To The Future@!

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

@JetFan79 does not grasp how truly horrible this squad is. These "young" players you cite are not good...they are just the best the Jets have. Let's just look at the MMQB Top 400 list that just came out. Despite its obvious flaws coming from SI, it's at least a general barometer of the top 400 players in the league. The average team has 12.5 players; the Patriots lead the league with 20 players.

The Jets have far and away the fewest players in the list with only 5. The next worst teams, the Bears and Jaguars, each have 8. Its almost mathematically impossible to field a professional team and have that few players in the top 400. It gets worse.

74. Leonard Williams
93. Muhammad Wilkerson
105. Sheldon Richardson
350. Morris Claiborne
395. Quincy Enunwa

In this list, Wilkerson has eaten his way to become a laughingstock and is in fact a huge liability when his contract is factored in. Richardson has been the subject of trade rumors, as the Jets want to get rid of him due to attitude and off-the-field issues. Claiborne is essentially a huge draft bust who barely cracked the list. Enunwa is the 38th ranked WR in the league...a guy you singled out as a glowing example of the Jets youth.

The other players who you think could be good, linebackers and safeties, these are draft picks. Every team thinks/hopes they've struck gold. Given the Jets track record in the draft, it's highly unlikely they'll pan out as optimistically as you think.

The Jets aren't just the worst team in the NFL. They easily have the worst nucleus of young talent as well. And it isn't because they lack superstars...looking at the huge gap between 105 and 350 on the list, it confirms that they lack those solid foundational players as well.

This would be a terrible situation to bring a young, talented quarterback into. They are years and years away from being respectable. Outside of some very obvious lottery players who dropped into their laps, they have been the absolute worst drafting team in the NFL since Mangini left. It's very problematic that multiple GMs have come in and been as impossibly bad as the previous one. I suspect it's the organization, to bottom, and it's impossible to weed out the underlying issues save for an ownership change.

 

[JetFan79]

@JetFan79 does not grasp how truly horrible this squad is. These "young" players you cite are not good...they are just the best the Jets have. Let's just look at the MMQB Top 400 list that just came out. Despite its obvious flaws coming from SI, it's at least a general barometer of the top 400 players in the league. The average team has 12.5 players; the Patriots lead the league with 20 players.

The Jets have far and away the fewest players in the list with only 5. The next worst teams, the Bears and Jaguars, each have 8. Its almost mathematically impossible to field a professional team and have that few players in the top 400. It gets worse.

74. Leonard Williams
93. Muhammad Wilkerson
105. Sheldon Richardson
350. Morris Claiborne
395. Quincy Enunwa

In this list, Wilkerson has eaten his way to become a laughingstock and is in fact a huge liability when his contract is factored in. Richardson has been the subject of trade rumors, as the Jets want to get rid of him due to attitude and off-the-field issues. Claiborne is essentially a huge draft bust who barely cracked the list. Enunwa is the 38th ranked WR in the league...a guy you singled out as a glowing example of the Jets youth.

The other players who you think could be good, linebackers and safeties, these are draft picks. Every team thinks/hopes they've struck gold. Given the Jets track record in the draft, it's highly unlikely they'll pan out as optimistically as you think.

The Jets aren't just the worst team in the NFL. They easily have the worst nucleus of young talent as well. And it isn't because they lack superstars...looking at the huge gap between 105 and 350 on the list, it confirms that they lack those solid foundational players as well.

This would be a terrible situation to bring a young, talented quarterback into. They are years and years away from being respectable. Outside of some very obvious lottery players who dropped into their laps, they have been the absolute worst drafting team in the NFL since Mangini left. It's very problematic that multiple GMs have come in and been as impossibly bad as the previous one. I suspect it's the organization, to bottom, and it's impossible to weed out the underlying issues save for an ownership change.

Well you are entitled to your opinion.

 

[Joker]

Well you are entitled to your opinion.

 

[JetFan79]

Funny, except for...

where's Jetfan79? Gotta get the alternate universe spin on THIS latest green apocalypse ...

 

[Clonamery]

@JetFan79 does not grasp how truly horrible this squad is. These "young" players you cite are not good...they are just the best the Jets have. Let's just look at the MMQB Top 400 list that just came out. Despite its obvious flaws coming from SI, it's at least a general barometer of the top 400 players in the league. The average team has 12.5 players; the Patriots lead the league with 20 players.

The Jets have far and away the fewest players in the list with only 5. The next worst teams, the Bears and Jaguars, each have 8. Its almost mathematically impossible to field a professional team and have that few players in the top 400. It gets worse.

74. Leonard Williams
93. Muhammad Wilkerson
105. Sheldon Richardson
350. Morris Claiborne
395. Quincy Enunwa

In this list, Wilkerson has eaten his way to become a laughingstock and is in fact a huge liability when his contract is factored in. Richardson has been the subject of trade rumors, as the Jets want to get rid of him due to attitude and off-the-field issues. Claiborne is essentially a huge draft bust who barely cracked the list. Enunwa is the 38th ranked WR in the league...a guy you singled out as a glowing example of the Jets youth.

The other players who you think could be good, linebackers and safeties, these are draft picks. Every team thinks/hopes they've struck gold. Given the Jets track record in the draft, it's highly unlikely they'll pan out as optimistically as you think.

The Jets aren't just the worst team in the NFL. They easily have the worst nucleus of young talent as well. And it isn't because they lack superstars...looking at the huge gap between 105 and 350 on the list, it confirms that they lack those solid foundational players as well.

This would be a terrible situation to bring a young, talented quarterback into. They are years and years away from being respectable. Outside of some very obvious lottery players who dropped into their laps, they have been the absolute worst drafting team in the NFL since Mangini left. It's very problematic that multiple GMs have come in and been as impossibly bad as the previous one. I suspect it's the organization, to bottom, and it's impossible to weed out the underlying issues save for an ownership change.

This would be known as "kick me" evidence.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Well you are entitled to your opinion.

Well he backed it up with facts. Weak response. State the reasons you think his is wrong. Yours is more like new blood and young players means the Jets will become great....based on hope. That's what has you excited?