Mike Felger !!

[Joker]

I'd like to see someone RAM Gasbaggarotti's head up Felger's brownstain sewerpipe and superglue his big mouth to the bottom of a piledriver...

 

[Deus Irae]

The pats first round pick is Brandon cooks

That's not correct. The Patriots did not have a first round pick this year.

"How they used the draft" is not the same as "How they drafted".

Or, to put it another way,

Nobody in the NFL made better use of their 2007 draft picks than the New England Patriots, but there were teams that drafted better.

 

[varjao]

Felger, Screamin A Smith, Skip, these guys are all trolls although Skip recently has become more watchable.

They play a role and follow a script, it's like good cop bad cop, they have pre show meetings to decide who is going to push which agenda and who is gonna disagree.

I'm pretty sure within their circle of friends far away from a microphone they should be decent people and it's not a long shot you can have a pretty decent football conversation with them, in their shows they are actors pushing an agenda and the only way to get ratings is through polemics.

 

[Ivan]

In 1997 when we got picks from the Jets for Parcells there was a usenet troll who kept saying "Curtis Martin is our #1 pick" and it drove me crazy then. ****ing Bob Jensen. A true master.

So it's kind of nails on chalkboard to see the Pats doing the same thing, but that's just on twitter and is about keeping fan interest going, etc.

At the same time, I think you grade the Patriots on what they did with all their picks not just the players they selected. And in both instances I'm very happy. The F grade is just to trigger you.

And Felger has always been the one screaming about the cap is crap just win now. It doesn't matter what they do he will simply take the other side to be the douche.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The List of General Managers who have won 5 SuperBowls:

Bill Belichick

Maybe, just maybe Felger, he might know a little bit more about managing a draft and salary cap than you do.

 

[rochrist]

You should send that to Felger. Really, there should be a little tiny toilet next to that one with a little tiny Maz siting on it. "Me too, Mike, me too!!!"

 

[Ivan]

I just see it as how they use the pick, and I consider the UDFA's as part of their draft because they were a part of their scouting evaluations, and if you think you can get them without using the pick it's that much better.

 

[Deus Irae]

The List of General Managers who have won 5 SuperBowls:

Bill Belichick

Maybe, just maybe Felger, he might know a little bit more about managing a draft and salary cap than you do.

Felger's been right on the cap. The cap is crap, in the sense that it can be easily maneuvered around, particularly in an era of large cap increases. Belichick acknowledged it, in his own way. What gets people's panties in a twist is that they don't like the way Felger's phrased it.

 

[maineman209]

It's always been a popular argument tactic:

Hack out one aspect (e.g., selecting a few untested college prospects ou of hundreds on one specific weekend, i.e., "The Draft") out of the much larger context of a complex set of problems and solutions (long term, strategic roster and cap management). Then, completely ignore any notion of interrelatedness such as how moves made in other areas of roster/cap management impact how the team approaches draft weekend.

And, BINGO!, you have a completely contrived basis for being (or pretending to be) outraged, and for generating outrage.

We see popular media "journalists" engineer this type of thing constantly in the realm of politics, because it grabs eyeballs, stimulates emotions and sells advertising. And kills productive, calm, rational discussion.

One can try to say, "But wait! That's not the whole story!" But it won't matter. Once the landslide has started, it's too late for the pebbles to vote.

That's why I (mostly) just ignore such hacks.

 

[shmessy]

Felger's been right on the cap. The cap is crap, in the sense that it can be easily maneuvered around, particularly in an era of large cap increases. Belichick acknowledged it, in his own way. What gets people's panties in a twist is that they don't like the way Felger's phrased it.

The way he phrased it was that Belichick was mismanaging by being too cap-conscious. For years, he was criticizing BB's management of it.

Now he is making hay out of giving BB an "F" for this draft.

History and I will take Belichick's side in this.

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[Deus Irae]

The way he phrased it was that Belichick was mismanaging by being too cap-conscious. For years, he was criticizing BB's management of it.

He was saying people were using it as an excuse when the team didn't sign players. He was right.

Now he is making hay out of giving BB an "F" for this draft.

History and I will take Belichick's side in this.

You were wrong on the cap.

Time will tell on the draft. I have no dog in that fight. It's obvious that Felger's draft comments are his way of trolling people like you, and he's getting what he wants out of it.

 

[PatsDeb]

Ok,,,,as most of you all know,,i am from Bahrain,,,an Island Kingdom in the Middle East right next to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia . So being so far away from Boston i need to ask this question about Mike Felger ,,,,,,does he hate the Patriots and Bill Belichick ?
I cannot understand his rant nor why he gives the Pats a grade F for the Draft ??!!!
Am i missing something here ? He makes that idiot Tanguay look Great now !
Apologies for my ignorance of Boston media and their ways .
Sorry but i am confused why anyone would question BB ,,especially after just winning our Fifth Super Bowl.
Thankyou.

His only mission in life is to stir up trouble to get people to listen in (and call in to his show to argue with him). I think I actually heard him chuckling to himself all the time when I actually listened (probably thinking about the fact that he makes the big bucks arguing with these losers all day). I used to find him entertaining (and probably would enjoy this rant if I heard it), but the schtick gets old. Listen for the pure entertainment value if it amuses you, otherwise turn it off. Felger doesn't believe what he says. He picks a contrarian position and runs with it. That's his job and he's good at it.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Felger's been right on the cap. The cap is crap, in the sense that it can be easily maneuvered around, particularly in an era of large cap increases. Belichick acknowledged it, in his own way. What gets people's panties in a twist is that they don't like the way Felger's phrased it.

The Jets and Saints are among teams that have recently had legit cap mismanagement issues that have lowered the competitiveness of their team.

I don't think Felger's "cap is crap" phrase is nuanced enough to capture the truth of what you're saying - "someone who is competent, dispassionate and attentive to the details of the cap can manage to maintain a competitive roster year after year" as well as the actual things that have happened with teams like above.

Even in the era of a big cap increase, the Texans had to give away a 2nd round pick to get out from Osweiler's contract. If the cap were truly crap, they could've kept their 2nd and taken the big dead money hit to just cut Osweiler free.

 

[mosslost]

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I may be the rare exception, but I find their show very funny and entertaining, EXCEPT when they bash the Patriots. So I think lots of people listen because they think the show is funny and good, but do not like when the bash the Pats, call them cheaters (F'ing yesterday he said "stop cheating" if you want draft picks the idiot)

 

[Deus Irae]

The Jets and Saints are among teams that have recently had legit cap mismanagement issues that have lowered the competitiveness of their team.

I don't think Felger's "cap is crap" phrase is nuanced enough to capture the truth of what you're saying - "someone who is competent, dispassionate and attentive to the details of the cap can manage to maintain a competitive roster year after year" as well as the actual things that have happened with teams like above.

Even in the era of a big cap increase, the Texans had to give away a 2nd round pick to get out from Osweiler's contract. If the cap were truly crap, they could've kept their 2nd and taken the big dead money hit to just cut Osweiler free.

Cap is crap was a phrase that caught on. It wasn't the end all/be all of his position. And your Texans argument makes no sense. Cutting a player has consequences. That's not the same thing as "cap is crap".

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Cap is crap was a phrase that caught on. It wasn't the end all/be all of his position. And your Texans argument makes no sense. Cutting a player has consequences. That's not the same thing as "cap is crap".

...salary cap consequences.

 

[Deus Irae]

...salary cap consequences.

Yes, but not such as you were claiming. You're trying too hard, and making a terrible comparison as a result. Go take a look at the Texans' cap space.

 

[pwes]

Threads like this are making this site insufferable. You all complain about him and others almost every other day saying they are idiots and don't know what they are talking about then continue to listen to them only to come back here and ***** and complain about something they said.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

His argument is you can't fully include those players we traded picks for because they have less years left on their contracts. As an independent statement, that's correct. What he fails to say, though, is we know these guys can play. Cooks, Ealy, Allen, Gillislee are proven NFL players. They may have less years on their contracts but they won't be total busts like so many draft picks will be.

Yup, its all about proven commodities for a title(s) run.. roster is stacked, most rookies would have a tough time making the team as anything more than a special teamer.. they traded picks for veteran players that can ball and are either in or approaching a contract year

They're all in for #6, but not in a wreckless way by any stretch of the imagination

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Yes, but not such as you were claiming. You're trying too hard, and making a terrible comparison as a result. Go take a look at the Texans' cap space.

Texans gave up a valuable asset for $20M in cap space. As a result, they have $31M instead of $11M of cap space currently. The extra cap flexibility they purchased with their 2nd rounder will allow them the cap space for something like a Clowney extension.

If the cap was crap, wouldn't they have preferred a 2nd rounder if they were still going to have $11M of cap space left after eating the Osweiler dead money cap hit? What am I missing that makes my comparison terrible?