OT: McFarland out for year?

[captain stone]

And how many showed up to their parade again?

Yes, I believe that was 40,000.

The Steelers like to brag about their parade, but only 250,000 attended that.

How many were at the Patriots parade, you ask?

XXXVI in 2002 had about 1,000,000.

XXXVIII in 2004 had about 1,500,000.

XXXIX in 2005 had about 1,000,000 (The City Hall rally was scrapped)

So, to recap:

Colts:

Steelers:

Patriots:

Terrific pictures. Kinda says it all, I think.

 

[Peytonsbetter]

Even if there was contact as you claim, it did NOT interrupt Wayne's route. And that is the way the rule is written. Hayden, on the other hand, MAULED Caldwell.

It did affect Reggies ability to go after the ball. As Reggie turns and reaches up for the ball, his hand hits Hobbs' facemask, BEFORE the ball gets there. Since Hobbs is not even looking for the ball, THATS A PENALTY. Thats the way the rule is written.

I'll give you the Caldwell call, although I thought they ruled it an uncatchable pass, which is why there was no penalty. I could be wrong.

How do you figure? The league apologized to Hobbs for making a "FACE GUARDING" call. That was the call on the field. Face-guarding. NOT CONTACT (which there wasn't unless you have some superhuman eyes that can see down from above on a camera angle that only showed a side view, which doesn't give you depth.) There is no "FACE GUARDING" penalty as Greg Aiello said.

I agree on the faceguarding call. There is no such thing as faceguarding, which, I'm assuming is why the NFL apologized to Hobbs. However, as Greg Aiello pointed out, Hobbs DID make contact, therefore he was rightfully flagged for PI.

The fact of the matter is that the ball was UNDER thrown and that Wayne never made an attempt to come back for the ball.

Untrue. Sorry, but thats just false. Reggie CLEARLY, and I mean CLEARLY turned around and went for the ball.

 

[Peytonsbetter]

Enough. Stop trying to blindly defend your team even when you know it's making you look like an absolute fool. Show some class and admit the call was wrong. Most Colts fans did just that when Hobbs was called and when there was no defensive pass interference when Caldwell was pulled down in the endzone. They cited it as payback for no penalty on the Wayne play, but that was crap too - Wayne tripped over his own feet.

*sigh* I'm not blindly defending anything. There's nothing to defend. The right call was made, which was PI. I've heard no one except Vic Ketchmann, Ellis Hobbs and a whole lot of Patriots fans say otherwise.

Here's how the NFL tried to defend their refs:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=49773

1/26: Vic Ketchman, citing a league source, says that face guarding is not a penalty (as we all know) and Hobbs shouldn't have been penalized.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=49880

1/28: Aiello says that faceguarding is not a penalty, but Hobbs did make contact with Wayne, defending the integrity of their refs.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=57854

7/27: We first learn of the NFL's secret apology to Hobbs, only through his mouth only.

This is my guess- the league apologized to Ellis Hobbs for improperly describing the penalty as "faceguarding" when no such rule exists. Just a thought.

As for Ketchmann, he despises the Colt's as only a native Baltimorean can. Plus, he's a writer for the Jags, which makes him hate us even more.

 

[Peytonsbetter]

Reading the last page of this thread has burned my hatred for everything dolts even farther into the blackest corner of my soul.

There is no bigger quartet of a-holes in the NFL, if not in all NA pro sports, than Irsay - naPolian - dungheap - payaton. Their lying, cheating, stealing, bullying and whining boil my blood and put thoughts of bad intentions in my brain.

I wish that there were a god, so that those 4, and all their ignorant, hayseed fanboys could burn in hell together, for all eternity. Amen.

Its just a game, friend. Not life or death. sheesh.

In a lot of ways, Polian reminds me of Rodney Harrison. If he's on the other team, you loathe him, if he's on yours, you love him. One thing you can't deny is, they're BOTH very good at what they do.

 

[DaBruinz]

Its just a game, friend. Not life or death. sheesh.

In a lot of ways, Polian reminds me of Rodney Harrison. If he's on the other team, you loathe him, if he's on yours, you love him. One thing you can't deny is, they're BOTH very good at what they do.

Yes, Bill Polian is such a good GM. He throws temper tantrums regularly in the press box, threatens employees of other teams, and wishes that serious harm would be fall players of other teams. If that is what it means to be a good GM, then I will take Pioli every single time.

 

[pats1]

*sigh* I'm not blindly defending anything. There's nothing to defend. The right call was made, which was PI. I've heard no one except Vic Ketchmann, Ellis Hobbs and a whole lot of Patriots fans say otherwise.

And yet you've presented absolutely no evidence to support your POV.

Watch the play over, as I did yesterday. It's completely obvious that Hobbs didn't make contact with Wayne (besides a swipe with his fingers) until the ball had bounced off Hobbs' chest and to the turf.

 

[Bo0MeR]

And yet you've presented absolutely no evidence to support your POV.

Watch the play over, as I did yesterday. It's completely obvious that Hobbs didn't make contact with Wayne (besides a swipe with his fingers) until the ball had bounced off Hobbs' chest and to the turf.

Does it really matter? Have you tried Getting over it? Does that have any affect on your teams play this season? does whining about the call every single day and starting multiple page threads with more whining going to reverse the play??? Do bad calls happen during every single play during every single game for every season? Have the Patriots had more than therir fair share of bad calls where they ended up benefiting from them?

 

[pats1]

For your viewing pleasure:

 

[pats1]

Does it really matter? Have you tried Getting over it? Does that have any affect on your teams play this season? does whining about the call every single day and starting multiple page threads with more whining going to reverse the play??? Do bad calls happen during every single play during every single game for every season? Have the Patriots had more than therir fair share of bad calls where they ended up benefiting from them?

All he had to do was admit the Colts benefited greatly from two botched calls (Hobbs PI, Caldwell non-PI) and I would have been happy.

 

[Bo0MeR]

All he had to do was admit the Colts benefited greatly from two botched calls (Hobbs PI, Caldwell non-PI) and I would have been happy.

Why would you need that to be happy? When the Pats were getting call after call that was benefitiing their run did other posters from other boards come and make you admit to it happening for their piece of mind? Is him even "admitting" anything (which is objective based on your opinion) going to change anything? Or is it just a small victory you are trying to gain from a Colts fan.

Here's something, it was a bad call. Are you happy? Do you feel better now? Maybe the conversation can end.

And while you're posting videos here's one more for you to review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDwVqWQ7k9I

 

[Oswlek]

Does it really matter? Have you tried Getting over it? Does that have any affect on your teams play this season? does whining about the call every single day and starting multiple page threads with more whining going to reverse the play??? Do bad calls happen during every single play during every single game for every season? Have the Patriots had more than therir fair share of bad calls where they ended up benefiting from them?

The Pats did get away with some rough stuff in the the 2003 AFCCG as well as the 2001 SB. In both of those games the calls were consistent and didn't involve BB and SP politicing for calls the day before the game.

Since then the only game that NE was on the good side of lousy officiating was last year against Minny. There were two or three plays where I just cringed at the calls against the Vikings. Frankly, since the AFCCG it seems as if the refs go out of their way to ensure that NE does *not* get the calls. You can call me a homer if you want, but I know that what I am saying is the truth.

People give the officials *way* too much credit for having much influence at all in NE's wins. And the only thing I ask is that Indy fans admit that the calls were clearly biased in their direction and that the refs overlooked a terrible PI play after their own GM asked them to watch that facet specifically. I'll admit that the loss still bothers me, but the act of discussing it doesn't mean that I or anyone else obsesses over it.

 

[pats1]

Why would you need that to be happy? When the Pats were getting call after call that was benefitiing their run

Like what?

The tuck rule was called correctly.

The only bad call in the 2001 SB was the extra 2 seconds that were allowed to run off the clock.

NaPolian didn't push for the chuck rule until after the 2003/4 AFCCG.

And so you're basically saying the Pats have stayed ahead of the curve?

 

[workhorse]

Hey, did you guys hear that Booger is out for the year?

 

[BelichickFan]

Hey, did you guys hear that Booger is out for the year?

LMAO. I'm just glad I've moved on from last year. Never watched the game again never will. Did the Colts get some huge calls? Yes. But they were at home, it happens. That's what we get for losing to the Jets in regular season. We also could have made some plays to win despite the calls. That's why you want HF, though, winning on the road is tough and the officials are one of the reasons.

 

[pats1]

LMAO. I'm just glad I've moved on from last year. Never watched the game again never will. Did the Colts get some huge calls? Yes. But they were at home, it happens. That's what we get for losing to the Jets in regular season. We also could have made some plays to win despite the calls. That's why you want HF, though, winning on the road is tough and the officials are one of the reasons.

The Jets loss didn't bother me as much as the Dolphins loss. They win that one and everything could be different.

 

[Oswlek]

Hey, did you guys hear that Booger is out for the year?

NO!

 

[Oswlek]

The Jets loss didn't bother me as much as the Dolphins loss. They win that one and everything could be different.

Wouldn't the same differences apply of NE won the Jet game?

 

[pats1]

Wouldn't the same differences apply of NE won the Jet game?

Right, but the Dolphins were a baaaaad team. Getting shut out by them was unacceptable.

 

[Oswlek]

Right, but the Dolphins were a baaaaad team. Getting shut out by them was unacceptable.

I think that Miami was as good as NY from the Chicago game on. And Miami always gets up for the NE game there.

 

[Vern]

Right, but the Dolphins were a baaaaad team. Getting shut out by them was unacceptable.

The Miami loss was one of "just a bad day" type things we seem to have once a year. Easy to brush off having a horrible all around day.

The Jets game was a winnable game that even though playing flat, we still had it in our hands and just blew it.