Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by DougGabriel2007, Aug 5, 2007.
Terrific pictures. Kinda says it all, I think.
It did affect Reggies ability to go after the ball. As Reggie turns and reaches up for the ball, his hand hits Hobbs' facemask, BEFORE the ball gets there. Since Hobbs is not even looking for the ball, THATS A PENALTY. Thats the way the rule is written.
I'll give you the Caldwell call, although I thought they ruled it an uncatchable pass, which is why there was no penalty. I could be wrong.
I agree on the faceguarding call. There is no such thing as faceguarding, which, I'm assuming is why the NFL apologized to Hobbs. However, as Greg Aiello pointed out, Hobbs DID make contact, therefore he was rightfully flagged for PI.
Untrue. Sorry, but thats just false. Reggie CLEARLY, and I mean CLEARLY turned around and went for the ball.
*sigh* I'm not blindly defending anything. There's nothing to defend. The right call was made, which was PI. I've heard no one except Vic Ketchmann, Ellis Hobbs and a whole lot of Patriots fans say otherwise.
This is my guess- the league apologized to Ellis Hobbs for improperly describing the penalty as "faceguarding" when no such rule exists. Just a thought.
As for Ketchmann, he despises the Colt's as only a native Baltimorean can. Plus, he's a writer for the Jags, which makes him hate us even more.
Its just a game, friend. Not life or death. sheesh.
In a lot of ways, Polian reminds me of Rodney Harrison. If he's on the other team, you loathe him, if he's on yours, you love him. One thing you can't deny is, they're BOTH very good at what they do.
Yes, Bill Polian is such a good GM. He throws temper tantrums regularly in the press box, threatens employees of other teams, and wishes that serious harm would be fall players of other teams. If that is what it means to be a good GM, then I will take Pioli every single time.
And yet you've presented absolutely no evidence to support your POV.
Watch the play over, as I did yesterday. It's completely obvious that Hobbs didn't make contact with Wayne (besides a swipe with his fingers) until the ball had bounced off Hobbs' chest and to the turf.
Does it really matter? Have you tried Getting over it? Does that have any affect on your teams play this season? does whining about the call every single day and starting multiple page threads with more whining going to reverse the play??? Do bad calls happen during every single play during every single game for every season? Have the Patriots had more than therir fair share of bad calls where they ended up benefiting from them?
For your viewing pleasure:
All he had to do was admit the Colts benefited greatly from two botched calls (Hobbs PI, Caldwell non-PI) and I would have been happy.
Why would you need that to be happy? When the Pats were getting call after call that was benefitiing their run did other posters from other boards come and make you admit to it happening for their piece of mind? Is him even "admitting" anything (which is objective based on your opinion) going to change anything? Or is it just a small victory you are trying to gain from a Colts fan.
Here's something, it was a bad call. Are you happy? Do you feel better now? Maybe the conversation can end.
And while you're posting videos here's one more for you to review
The Pats did get away with some rough stuff in the the 2003 AFCCG as well as the 2001 SB. In both of those games the calls were consistent and didn't involve BB and SP politicing for calls the day before the game.
Since then the only game that NE was on the good side of lousy officiating was last year against Minny. There were two or three plays where I just cringed at the calls against the Vikings. Frankly, since the AFCCG it seems as if the refs go out of their way to ensure that NE does *not* get the calls. You can call me a homer if you want, but I know that what I am saying is the truth.
People give the officials *way* too much credit for having much influence at all in NE's wins. And the only thing I ask is that Indy fans admit that the calls were clearly biased in their direction and that the refs overlooked a terrible PI play after their own GM asked them to watch that facet specifically. I'll admit that the loss still bothers me, but the act of discussing it doesn't mean that I or anyone else obsesses over it.
The tuck rule was called correctly.
The only bad call in the 2001 SB was the extra 2 seconds that were allowed to run off the clock.
NaPolian didn't push for the chuck rule until after the 2003/4 AFCCG.
And so you're basically saying the Pats have stayed ahead of the curve?
Hey, did you guys hear that Booger is out for the year?
LMAO. I'm just glad I've moved on from last year. Never watched the game again never will. Did the Colts get some huge calls? Yes. But they were at home, it happens. That's what we get for losing to the Jets in regular season. We also could have made some plays to win despite the calls. That's why you want HF, though, winning on the road is tough and the officials are one of the reasons.
The Jets loss didn't bother me as much as the Dolphins loss. They win that one and everything could be different.
Wouldn't the same differences apply of NE won the Jet game?
Right, but the Dolphins were a baaaaad team. Getting shut out by them was unacceptable.
I think that Miami was as good as NY from the Chicago game on. And Miami always gets up for the NE game there.
The Miami loss was one of "just a bad day" type things we seem to have once a year. Easy to brush off having a horrible all around day.
The Jets game was a winnable game that even though playing flat, we still had it in our hands and just blew it.
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