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View Poll Results: Heat of Mavericks
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:53 AM   #101
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Best tweet of the night... Tonight we are all Mavericks...

I know folks resent us because we win, but fans literally resent LeBron because he is...

What will be interesting now is to see what happens to the Heat if the NBA locks the big three out in order to achieve a hard cap...
who tweeted that, sarah palin?


anyway, it's kinda funny, that people are celebrating lebron losing, and really all he is was a guy who took his free agency decision to new lows via espn/nike commercials

but celebrating jason kidd finally winning a title, a guy who beat his wife
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:24 AM   #102
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I don't like Jason Kidd, but there probably isn't an NBA team in the league without a douchebag on it. This Celtics team is pretty clean - Delonte has gotten into trouble, but everyone knows he's trying to do right. But most NBA teams have a bad apple. I do not like Kidd at all.

It was a pretty epic series, which featured 4 extremely good games, which is rare. Start to finish this will go down as one of the better postseasons, with a lot of great storylines and a lot of good, close games, amazing comebacks. It's what the NBA needed right now.

And even moreso, they need Lebron to lose. The Heat are now a team you want to watch whether you are a Miami fan or not - you want to tune in to watch them lose, and that's very valuable for the NBA.

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I don't like Jason Kidd, but there probably isn't an NBA team in the league without a douchebag on it. This Celtics team is pretty clean - Delonte has gotten into trouble, but everyone knows he's trying to do right.

It was a pretty epic series, which featured 4 extremely good games, which is rare. Start to finish this will go down as one of the better postseasons, with a lot of great storylines and a lot of good, close games, amazing comebacks. It's what the NBA needed right now.

And even moreso, they need Lebron to lose. The Heat are now a team you want to watch whether you are a Miami fan or not - you want to tune in to watch them lose, and that's very valuable for the NBA.
I agree with this post BradyManny. Minus the Celtics untimely exit it's been one of the better NBA post-seasons to watch. There were so many plot lines that eventuated as series unfolded.
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I agree with this post BradyManny. Minus the Celtics untimely exit it's been one of the better NBA post-seasons to watch. There were so many plot lines that eventuated as series unfolded.
And the Finals didn't even need shenanigan star-friendly-refereeing to stay interesting...maybe David Stern will finally get it.
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F Miami...lechoke was amazing..walking off the court and not congratulating them at all...loser
Didn't BB do something like that after the 07 loss?
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Didn't BB do something like that after the 07 loss?
no...he tried to meet at the 50 yard line but it was just chaos...so he left the field
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Old 06-16-2011, 11:47 AM   #107
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Honestly, I bet these two guys are the biggest d-bags on the planet and everyone around them and on that organization probably can't stand them. Their arrogance is appalling. We know Lebron was not well-liked in Cleveland, so I imagine combining his douchebaggery with Wade just makes them even more insufferable.
Meanwhile, DeShawn Stevenson can mock his opponents on every made three pointer and can badmouth his opponents through the media and get away with it, scot free. Nice double standard amongst the Heat haters out there. If LeBron or Wade had done any of the stuff that Stevenson got away with, they'd be crucified. And if you can't agree with that, you should probably just stay away from any conversation pertaining to Miami because you've clearly got too much of a bias.

That said, what Wade and LeBron did was simply punk *****. They just need to cut that crap out and get back to playing the game of basketball. The explanation for it was even more lame.

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I honestly have been too busy to keep up with all of the hate or even watch Game 6. Work has been killing me lately. With all of that said, I recorded Game 6 and saw the rest of the series, and I only have one thing to say: Touche', Dallas. Dirk put the entire team on his back during that playoff run in a way that I haven't seen since Dwyane Wade in 2006 and Jordan in the 90's. They have a great, complete team and are a classy bunch (for the most part). Aside from DeShawn Stevenson, they deserved to win one. Stevenson, meanwhile, can get hit by a bus for all I care.

I don't buy into the fact that LeBron lost the Heat the championship. He didn't. But he didn't do anything to help them, either. Time after time, I saw him standing still at the top of the key with one man in front of him (usually Jason Kidd) watching the offense unfold around him. It was like he was content to just sit back and watch Wade try to get him a championship. The problem with that, though, is that the Heat no longer have a Shaq under the rim that can grab rebounds if Wade is off and distribute it out to the shooters. The Heat have a 6'9" guy who is a very hard worker and is a defensive presence, but, in the end, is no Tyson Chandler. LeBron needed to do a better job at just about every area of his game: shooting, ball-handling, penetrating, and crashing the boards. I said this before, but I'll say it again: LeBron looked like D-Rose did in the ECF... not ready for the moment.

For the Heat, defense got them to the big dance and defense cost them in the big dance. Dallas was taking what they pleased from the field and they did so with excellent ball movement. In the first couple of games, you could see the Heat defenders try to cover that ground after the ball would go out to the Dallas shooters. In the last couple of games, it was almost like they quit trying because they didn't want to expel energy trying to stop something that they had no control over. For that matter, LeBron's defense was terrible on Jason Terry down the stretch too.

Going into the offseason, I expect the Heat to dump Mike Miller's salary and go after a free agent C. I would love Tyson Chandler, but he's a Finals winner and will cost a nice chunk of change. The Heat will not be able to afford him. I would expect for them to take a look at options like Nene, Marc Gasol, or even Greg Oden. Obviously, I'd rather have the first two.
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And the Finals didn't even need shenanigan star-friendly-refereeing to stay interesting...maybe David Stern will finally get it.
Dirk says hi. The Heat couldn't so much as fart on him in the paint without getting whistled for a foul. Of course, I don't want to go overboard in blaming the referees as I've always contended that it's a lame dick excuse. But the officiating was still bad. It just wasn't bad in the Heat's favor. Coming in, I expected Dallas to get more calls. This surprised most, but I had a pretty easy explanation for it. The viewership and ratings were through the roof to watch LeBron get his first ring, right? So if you're David Stern, why not have the refs call it more toward Dallas' way and postpone that ring chase into the next season? Makes sense if you're a believer in conspiracy theories (and I know you are).
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Dirk says hi. The Heat couldn't so much as fart on him in the paint without getting whistled for a foul. Of course, I don't want to go overboard in blaming the referees as I've always contended that it's a lame dick excuse. But the officiating was still bad. It just wasn't bad in the Heat's favor. Coming in, I expected Dallas to get more calls. This surprised most, but I had a pretty easy explanation for it. The viewership and ratings were through the roof to watch LeBron get his first ring, right? So if you're David Stern, why not have the refs call it more toward Dallas' way and postpone that ring chase into the next season? Makes sense if you're a believer in conspiracy theories (and I know you are).
Kontra, I think you really got used to the physicality with which Miami has been allowed to play all season, and in particular in the post-season. If I look at the series as a whole, I think Miami had the benefit of the officials, overall. Not by a huge margin, but still a slight bias in their favor.

I mean, in game 6, the Heat suddenly shoot twice as many free throws as Dallas? The fact is, Dirk generally earned his trips to the line by going up against physical players, whereas I lost count of the number of times Wade or Lebron got bailed out. But it's just we are used to seeing that. Wade, specifically, all he had to do was look at the officials and get calls.

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LeBron needed to do a better job at just about every area of his game: shooting, ball-handling, penetrating, and crashing the boards. I said this before, but I'll say it again: LeBron looked like D-Rose did in the ECF... not ready for the moment.
Re: Deshawn Stevenson, I mean look, the guy is a bit player on that team. What he does is not going to draw attention either way. Chalmers is clearly a bit of a punk, too, and even Wade/Lebron try to rein the kid in, but nobody talks about him either b/c he's just a bench player.

The face of the Heat franchise is Wade/Lebron, they acted like children. Stevenson is not the face of the Mavericks.

As for Lebron not getting blame for their losses - I disagree. If Lebron plays to even 75% of his capability, the Heat win that series without question. And that's the scary thought. If Lebron just gets out of his way, at some point this Heat team will win multiple championships.

The disappearance of his 3-point shooting was huge. I've always said he's not truly a skilled offensive player - can't dribble, can't post up, can't shoot. He has no real offensive moves. All he can do is run over people and get away with it. As soon as he added a 3 point shot, that changed. But when that goes away, he's back to being a one-dimensional player.

He completely got scared in the last few games, he passed up open shots, stopped going to the hoop, made bad passes and bad decisions. He got called for a travel once for going up in the air and landing (and attempting to toss the ball to a teammate as he landed), but I remember two other instances where he got away with it. That's purely indecisiveness. His problems were clearly in his head.

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