Would you give up a 2nd for Leonard Williams?

[fightingirish595]

His work ethic is questionable.

This is a strong claim. Not saying it’s wrong but what do you have to back that up. I’ve personally never heard anything

 

[Ring 6]

This is a strong claim. Not saying it’s wrong but what do you have to back that up. I’ve personally never heard anything

Italked what I’ve heard/read over the years. Clearly his play backs it up.

 

[RobertWeathers]

This is a strong claim. Not saying it’s wrong but what do you have to back that up. I’ve personally never heard anything

Should the Jets part ways with Leonard Williams after 2018?

Fan site but the call out an example. Who knows if its legit.

 

[Ring 6]

Who gives a crap if hes young and not in his prime?

All due respect I don't think you know what the market is for NFL linemen is respective to production, compensation and market rate.

Trey Flowers is a better player than Leonard Williams and has produced at a higher level than him. That is why he will be worth ~$14m AAV on the open market.

In terms of production and impact, Williams has not meet expectations and at $14m is overpaid.

If I have $14m kicking around Flowers gets it over Williams and it's not even a discussion

Williams and flowers are different players. Flowers is an edge player who holds up very well in the run game.
Williams isn’t stout enough to be a stud player inside and mobile/agile enough to be effective outside.
He’s a 34 DE in a league where 34 DEs are misfits.

 

[fightingirish595]

Should the Jets part ways with Leonard Williams after 2018?

Fan site but the call out an example. Who knows if its legit.

I wonder what the questionable play was. I had only read good things about his work ethic to this point

 

[TheRainMaker]

Yeah but that would actually work wouldn’t it? These experiments with Richardson and Williams were often failures and that they kept reattempting if memory serves me correctly

The Pats using Arrington at DE was laughable but quite irritating.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Williams and flowers are different players. Flowers is an edge player who holds up very well in the run game.
Williams isn’t stout enough to be a stud player inside and mobile/agile enough to be effective outside.
He’s a 34 DE in a league where 34 DEs are misfits.

Yes. Flowers is a better player

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

All Pro with a couple more good years left.

Yup, and can remove Jules from punt return duties.

 

[50-yard-line]

If he was on the FOURTH year, which a much lighter cap hit, I'd shake the branches, but no, at that price tag and with no long term deal, a team would be insane to do that - even a team with tons of cap space.

I like the Cooks trade(s) because of $ value.

As others have said, pay Flowers and go from there on the DL.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Really like Williams but I’m for trying to sign Flowers.

 

[IllegalContact]

No way.....we let Hicks walk over nothing....Williams ain’t no Hicks

 

[Tb12goesinya]

Leonard 2nd round? The real question is would you have drafted Darius Leonard instead of Sony

 

[Joey007]

Gilmore was fine in 2016, you are citing one play where he had or believed he had a safety over the top.

The Bills' Stephon Gilmore was the NFL's worst player in Week 2

Here was an example from one week where he was torched. He was up and down all season long. Bills fans weren’t upset to see him leave at the time.

 

[TommyD4207]

The Bills' Stephon Gilmore was the NFL's worst player in Week 2

Here was an example from one week where he was torched. He was up and down all season long. Bills fans weren’t upset to see him leave at the time.

Bills fans are stupid.

 

[Ring 6]

The Bills' Stephon Gilmore was the NFL's worst player in Week 2

Here was an example from one week where he was torched. He was up and down all season long. Bills fans weren’t upset to see him leave at the time.

PFF

 

[Joey007]

PFF

Straw man

 

[Joker]

Stink and suckage become ingrained in Jet players after a couple of seasons.

 

[supafly]

No way.....we let Hicks walk over nothing....Williams ain’t no Hicks

The idea of giving up a second rounder AND paying him top dollar seems extremely far fetched to me.

 

[DarrylS]

If the Patriots Economic System would expend this kind of cash would prefer Trey Flowers be paid and stay here...

 

[maineman209]

Scheme I’d like to personally say, his 2016 season he was destructive as anything. He would be a great fit to pair up with Trey Flowers if we keep him.

Given the Pats current cap/roster situation, it would be either keep Flowers OR acquire Williams.