Who Takes Bruschi's Reps When He Is Out?

[stinkypete]

How about Thomas? On likely running plays, line up Mayo and Thomas inside, some combination of Woods, TBC, Burgess and Green on the outside. This way, we have the bulk on the inside to match up with the guards without sacraficing too muh potential pass rush.

 

[mgteich]

So you're saying the Bruschi will get ZERO reps this year, and therefore there are no reps to pick up if he is out?

Nobody?

I think the better question to ask is who would take the reps if both Mayo and Bruschi - if he's even on the roster (Reiss was the latest to say he has an uphill battle; I mentioned this last week) - are out. If just Bruschi is out, life continues normally...

 

[mgteich]

Thia thread should be saved for posterity. NEVER has Alexander gotten so much support in his linebacker play, not since he came to the team.

 

[Deus Irae]

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[signbabybrady]

How about Thomas? On likely running plays, line up Mayo and Thomas inside, some combination of Woods, TBC, Burgess and Green on the outside. This way, we have the bulk on the inside to match up with the guards without sacraficing too muh potential pass rush.

Who sets the edge than Woods can on one side (maybe). But on the other side TBC can't , Green has never played OLB, and Burgess only has a small amount of time and not with us. Neither Burgess or Green have picked there hand up off the turf and played OLB for us.

On first down (when the offense is in a running formation and not spread) and short yardage situations your likely combo of LBs is Woods and Thomas on the outside and Bru and Mayo on the inside.

Guyton will get some first down reps and all other ILB reps when there is 2 on the field. and as the year goes on if he can prove to be stout against the run he may get more and more reps from Bru.

 

[Scouse Patriot]

I need an abreviations guide, for a minute I was like..who the hell is TBC.

I had Tom Bruschi Crable before Tully...

 

[mgteich]

So, we are still counting on our three ILB's and have no contingency plan if one of them is injured.

Who sets the edge than Woods can on one side (maybe). But on the other side TBC can't , Green has never played OLB, and Burgess only has a small amount of time and not with us. Neither Burgess or Green have picked there hand up off the turf and played OLB for us.

On first down (when the offense is in a running formation and not spread) and short yardage situations your likely combo of LBs is Woods and Thomas on the outside and Bru and Mayo on the inside.

Guyton will get some first down reps and all other ILB reps when there is 2 on the field. and as the year goes on if he can prove to be stout against the run he may get more and more reps from Bru.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

I did not miss anything . Did you miss the last preseason game when we opened in 3-4 where a guard was behind the LOS with guyton and mayo being pushed around ? .Ask benson how the guy tackling him in the middle was sanders and not the ILB . The gaurds had some success sealing gaps
from the ILB. We switched to 4-3 once benson was picking up a good yardage against our Base 3-4.

The play where Sanders made the tackle?

-- Wilfork got driven four yards off the LOS by a double-team, Mayo took on the FB with his inside shoulder to re-route the RB towards Wilfork, who unfortunately was about to land on his ass.
-- Guyton was filling the gap on his side of the formation, he came over once the RB committed to Mayo's side and was sealed by the RG releasing off the double-team - but Guyton hammered him back two steps, further narrowing the hole, which helped Warren and Sanders pinch the runner and limit the damage.

-- On those times when Guyton or Mayo were checked off the LOS, the Guards came out without chipping or combo-ing the DL so they had a couple steps to build up steam before smacking into the ILB duo. The nice thing about that is it singles-up the DL. Guyton and Mayo didn't look too bad as 3-4 ILBs for a couple guys still learning the job and needing more reps to develop and perfect their hand technique.

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[signbabybrady]

So, we are still counting on our three ILB's and have no contingency plan if one of them is injured.

Kinda but there are some contigencies. In order of how I would go

1) we keep Lennon

2) Seau

3) If three guys got hurt on the inside we would have to turn to Thomas to move in and use guys none of us have confidence in on the outside.

 

[mgteich]

Perhaps I misspoke. I meant that there is no contingency under many proposed rosters. We will see if Lenon or Alexander are signed. I expect one of them to signed. Seau should not be counted on.

Yes, Thomas could move inside if Mayo or Guyton is injured, but that creates a larger problem outside since we would be counting on run contain (setting the edge) from Banta-Cain or Burgess.

Kinda but there are some contigencies. In order of how I would go

1) we keep Lennon

2) Seau

3) If three guys got hurt on the inside we would have to turn to Thomas to move in and use guys none of us have confidence in on the outside.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

I don't think Bruschi makes the team. If he does, he will hardly play unless someone gets injured.

 

[signbabybrady]

I don't think Bruschi makes the team. If he does, he will hardly play unless someone gets injured.

Just curious, how many years have you been saying this/thinking it should be done.

Perhaps I misspoke. I meant that there is no contingency under many proposed rosters. We will see if Lenon or Alexander are signed. I expect one of them to signed. Seau should not be counted on.

Yes, Thomas could move inside if Mayo or Guyton is injured, but that creates a larger problem outside since we would be counting on run contain (setting the edge) from Banta-Cain or Burgess.

I am not sure Lennon does but one has to way this scenario before just cutting him because he has been banged up in camp.

as to Thomas moving inside I was only saying that would happen if ILB got decimated. If two or three of them went down you would have no choice but to move him in and use the depth or lack there of on the outside.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

Just curious, how many years have you been saying this/thinking it should be done.

This is actually the first year. In the past, I've never said to cut Bruschi, Seau or Vrabel, but I've said they need to improve the position.

 

[signbabybrady]

This is actually the first year. In the past, I've never said to cut Bruschi, Seau or Vrabel, but I've said they need to improve the position.

oh OK so you didn't want to cut them because we hadn't replaced them but you did want them repalaced???

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

oh OK so you didn't want to cut them because we hadn't replaced them but you did want them repalaced???

Yes, they needed to be replaced.

 

[satz]

Bru doesn't have a role anymore. Hes a backup. Guyton and Mayo are the starters.

Then look for sanders to play a big role in stopping the run and forget 3rd long.

 

[Synovia]

Then look for sanders to play a big role in stopping the run and forget 3rd long.

Are you still insisting that Bruschi is good against the run? Hes not. He's not a liability like he is against the pass, but hes not even close to good. Bruschi last year was the king of getting to the pile late and falling on top of a player that someone else had already tackled. Notice how he had as many assists as tackles? Notice anyone else whose stats look like that? He's getting favorable hometown scoring.


Guyton is a better player than Bruschi in every phase of the game, and Bruschi isn't fit to even be Mayo's backup. If Mayo gets hurt, we're going to see a huge dropoff.

 

[Sicilian]

If Mayo gets hurt, we're going to see a huge dropoff.

To be fair, that's half because Mayo is so good, and not necessarily because Bruschi is so bad. I don't want to see Bruschi playing full time anymore, he's definitely way beyond that, but name me a team that can plan an above average contingency behind every one of their starters.

 

[mgteich]

Almost every backup in the league would be a huge dropoff from Mayo. The issue is roster options for backup ILB's. Obviously these backups also need to be solid special team players. I favor Bruschi and Lenon. Who do you favor?

Are you still insisting that Bruschi is good against the run? Hes not. He's not a liability like he is against the pass, but hes not even close to good. Bruschi last year was the king of getting to the pile late and falling on top of a player that someone else had already tackled. Notice how he had as many assists as tackles? Notice anyone else whose stats look like that? He's getting favorable hometown scoring.


Guyton is a better player than Bruschi in every phase of the game, and Bruschi isn't fit to even be Mayo's backup. If Mayo gets hurt, we're going to see a huge dropoff.

 

[Synovia]

Almost every backup in the league would be a huge dropoff from Mayo. The issue is roster options for backup ILB's. Obviously these backups also need to be solid special team players. I favor Bruschi and Lenon. Who do you favor?

I don't really have a problem with Bruschi as a backup. My problem is some posters assertions that Guyton is a huge step down from Bruschi.