The 2020 Super Bowl pregame thread

[festy1986]

You should probably try learning how to read first before commenting on how familiar someone is with football.

The Bucs will surely do better than that defensively, they even did in the first meeting 200 of his yards came in the first quarter.

So you're in fact predicting that they will be better defensively than they were the last time but in the post above it you predict KC to win by 10? When they only lost by 3 last time?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

All these two weeks we will hear mahomey this and mahomey that. It’s insufferable. I can’t stand his fiancee, his momma, and kid brother. I can’t stand anything about that chiefs team. A blowout would be nice just to let everyone know who the damn goat is! My thing is where’s the competition in the afc right now? Brady early had to deal with forehead manning.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

They won't get 5 sacks like they did againt Rodgers, but without Fisher the Bucs DL is gonna have a good game.

They had 2 during the first meeting but with KC OL and the return of Vea they could get a couple more

 

[Lagaffe_07]

The guy takes up a lot of space. The Bucs got pressure on mahomey in the first matchup. Bucs offense wasn’t good in the first half. I doubt they will punt 4 times. People will ride the KC bandwagon. This reminds me so much of 2007 all over again. The giants where a 5th seed as well.

Except the 1st quarter, KC didn’t do much in the first matchup

 

[Kontradiction]

So you're in fact predicting that they will be better defensively than they were the last time but in the post above it you predict KC to win by 10? When they only lost by 3 last time?

You need to read his first post again a few times. I think you misunderstood him.

 

[festy1986]

You need to read his first post again a few times. I think you misunderstood him.

I misunderstood originally cause of how it was worded but he did say cheifs by 10 and kelce and hill all day every day.

So since he says tampa will surely defend better, I don't see how you can defend better and yet lose by more points.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Can this Bucs team play physical defense and knock the snot out of these receivers/tight ends for 4-quarters? BA better watch some film of the Donks/Chefs games. The Donks D did a good job in one of those games. The issue is their offense was inept as you get. The Chefs can be beat.

 

[slash83]

My brain says KC, but my heart says TB is destined to complete his epic journey.

 

[carmelo15]

Just skip the game and hand KC the trophy is the read I’m getting on most sites smh. Tampa can score with KC and especially with AB back I’d give Tampa the better chance to make stops over KC. Tampa will be getting pressure now that KC line is banged up they’ll have to double Vea and JPP/Barret will live in KC back field. They were able to slow KC after they stopped going 1on1 with 1 safety which was moronic to begin with. Also this time around they’ll have dean as well to go with Vea that’s there best defender and corner coming back.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Just skip the game and hand KC the trophy is the read I’m getting on most sites smh. Tampa can score with KC and especially with AB back I’d give Tampa the better chance to make stops over KC. Tampa will be getting pressure now that KC line is banged up they’ll have to double Vea and JPP/Barret will live in KC back field. They were able to slow KC after they stopped going 1on1 with 1 safety which was moronic to begin with. Also this time around they’ll have dean as well to go with Vea that’s there best defender and corner coming back.

Yup didn’t understand the coverage in that game against kc. Veta is a monster. I expect them to do a better job in coverage. Getting off to a good start always help. That’s what they did against the packers.

 

[TheRazorsEdge]

Tampa wins.

Down with the King(Dom).

 

[The Brandon Five]

Someone in another thread was comparing the hype about the KC "unstoppable" offense to the run-up to SB 42. If you can't win in the trenches it doesn't matter if you have Kelce and Hill. You aren't going to move the ball.

Cowherd today outright compared the Bucs to the 2007 Giants...

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

1st down play calling at Lambeau

The Buccaneers had 27 first down plays. I'm going to exclude the last four 1st down plays from analysis because it was end of game clock burning runs and a knee

buczone.com

Good thread here. Terrible overall first down results...so many runs that don’t gain much. Just because you win doesn’t mean you’re doing everything right.

I’ve really disliked that the Bucs offense has gone away from the schemes that made them so dominant from week 13-16. They’re back to incredibly predictable runs that often waste a down. Have they ever run a first down play action to Gronk?

I really hope Arians isn’t one of these guys who cites out of context stats like “teams that don’t run 25 teams lose almost every game” while missing major context about when to run (when the defense is vulnerable to it.) And I really hope he isn't as moronic as he has appeared to be in outright embracing ideas simply because the team won and not because they actually worked.

A lot of that horizontal crossing game with Godwin and AB both breaking immediately has also been largely abandoned. I don’t understand it. Brady was thriving. Yes, these are better defenses, but that shouldn’t force them back into the bad concepts they ran in the first half of the season.

This isn’t going to cut it against KC. Can’t count on the defense forcing multiple turnovers and giving the offense freebies. And you can’t be playing out of 2nd and 8 all the time when the Chiefs are using all three downs correctly. The worst idea in the history of sports is trying to win the battle of ball control when doing so prevents your offense from being efficient. To beat the Chiefs, you need to score a lot of points.

The idea of throttling down an offense like Tampa in order to hit a quota for rushing attempts seems so asinine. But if you look at the completion percentage and yards per attempt with their passing game, they kind of suck the last few games despite winning.

They've had 3.2 and 3.6 yards per rush the last two games while their opponents were 4.2 and 4.5. When you factor in the run defenses and running games (they should have a big advantage) that seems like some clear evidence that their running calls are predictable and stubborn, while the Packers and Saints have chosen their moments better. They won't beat the Chiefs averaging 3.5 yards per rush.

 

[carmelo15]

On obvious passing downs Tampa should double both Kelce/Hill and put Dean on Sammy Watkins. If the other guys beat you they beat you

 

[masterbouncer]

On obvious passing downs Tampa should double both Kelce/Hill and put Dean on Sammy Watkins. If the other guys beat you they beat you

the bucs have to be aggresive on the d-line, blitz all the time, put pressure on mahomes and don't let him escape , if the play is not extended hill, kelce and the other guys won't get time to get open

 

[Guts]

I think the Bucs offense is due for a full 4 quarter masterpiece. The first half vs GB was how good they can be

 

[TB12TheGoat]

the bucs have to be aggresive on the d-line, blitz all the time, put pressure on mahomes and don't let him escape , if the play is not extended hill, kelce and the other guys won't get time to get open

they should be able to pressure that line having only suh, Vea, Barrett, JPP rushing, and dropping 6-7 guys in coverage. i wouldn’t blitz more than a few select times

 

[TB12TheGoat]

I think the Bucs offense is due for a full 4 quarter masterpiece. The first half vs GB was how good they can be

you would think so. i want this to be the game where they finally pull a complete offensive effort

 

[Run DMC]

NE fans continue to underrate Bucs coaching. Did it ever occur to you Bowles played a lot of vanilla soft zone during the regular season so come playoff time they could turn up the heat? WIth AB back Bucs offense will easily put up 30+.I would put Devon White(or Winfield if healthy) on Kelce and double cover Hill the entire game. Bucs 4 man rush can get to the QB. Mahomes is ****y as hell and Andy Reid is a well known lifetime choke artist. I said it before and I'll say it again, New Orleans had the best defense against the Bucs this whole season and we all saw what happened in their 3rd meeting. KC OL is trash, they won't be able to run against a healthy Vea and Suh. KC defense is meh. I think this will be Tommy's lucky #7!

 

[TB12TheGoat]

NE fans continue to underrate Bucs coaching. Did it ever occur to you Bowles played a lot of vanilla soft zone during the regular season so come playoff time they could turn up the heat? WIth AB back Bucs offense will easily put up 30+.I would put Devon White(or Winfield if healthy) on Kelce and double cover Hill the entire game. Bucs 4 man rush can get to the QB. Mahomes is ****y as hell and Andy Reid is a well known lifetime choke artist. I said it before and I'll say it again, New Orleans had the best defense against the Bucs this whole season and we all saw what happened in their 3rd meeting. KC OL is trash, they won't be able to run against a healthy Vea and Suh. KC defense is meh. I think this will be Tommy's lucky #7!

doesn’t KC love to blitz? if they do then AB and Godwin need to eat them up with YAC which they’ve shown they’re more than capable of