Patriots All-Time Best by Position

[Actual Pats Fan]

Yep, that was the season where Afailus Thomas jumped ship, Moss started to lose focus, and Shawn Springs was loud-mouthed, washed-up garbage... Besides, the Saints won the franchise's only championship that season by Pick-6ing PayaTon to victory, so no complaints...

Fascinating how team chemistry and motivation work to make or sabotage an entire season. While talent matters, psychology is arguably the determining factor in professional sports. (See Bruins 1971/2023)

Good decisions by ownership and/or management can enable and inspire players to perform together positively, and to overcome adversity and see it as a challenge to overcome.

As opposed to poor decisions, which lead players to conclude they're on their own, every man for himself, we're doing this to get paid and that's it. And more often than not, major injuries occur under these circumstances. You're just not playing with the kind of adrenaline, attention, intensity and emotion as when you're engaged.

A team can be greater - or less than - the sum of its parts.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

damned dirty donkeys

I am referring to that team as that from now on

Here's my Pats All Time (subject to edit)

QB Tom Brady
FB Jim Nance
UB Kevin Faulk or James White
TE Rob Gronkowski
TE Ben Coates or Russ Francis
WR Stanley Morgan
WR Julian Edelman
WR Wes Welker
T Bruce Armstrong
T Leon Gray
G John Hannah
G Joe Thuney
C Jon Morris

DE Julius Adams
DT Richard Seymour
DT Vince Wilfork
DT Houston Antwine
LB Steve Nelson
LB Andre Tippett
LB Nick Buoniconti
LB Tedy Bruschi
S Devin McCourty
S Rodney Harrison
CB Mike Haynes
CB Ty Law
CB Ray Clayborn

KR Troy Brown
ST Matthew Slater/Mosi Tatupu
K Adam Vinatieri
P Rich Camarillo



Hard to leave Lawyer Milloy off this.

 

[Real fan 02]

I am referring to that team as that from now on

Here's my Pats All Time (subject to edit)

QB Tom Brady
FB Jim Nance
UB Kevin Faulk or James White
TE Rob Gronkowski
TE Ben Coates or Russ Francis
WR Stanley Morgan
WR Julian Edelman
WR Wes Welker
T Bruce Armstrong
T Leon Gray
G John Hannah
G Joe Thuney
C Jon Morris

DE Julius Adams
DT Richard Seymour
DT Vince Wilfork
DT Houston Antwine
LB Steve Nelson
LB Andre Tippett
LB Nick Buoniconti
LB Tedy Bruschi
S Devin McCourty
S Rodney Harrison
CB Mike Haynes
CB Ty Law
CB Ray Clayborn

KR Troy Brown
ST Matthew Slater/Mosi Tatupu
K Adam Vinatieri
P Rich Camarillo



Hard to leave Lawyer Milloy off this.

Well.. BB left him off the 03 team so I guess it's ok. LOL

 

[TheRainMaker]

Hard to leave Lawyer Milloy off this.

Who else remembers Milloy's signature move where he'd tackle a guy who got a 1st down 20 yards downfield and then he'd do his celebration where it looked he's asking a truck driver to honk the horn? Ty Law also celebrated at weird times and then you have Chris Canty dancing around the field after forcing a fumble.

The 90's secondary's swagger was 2nd to none and I think they were the pre group celebrations we see now, but they picked odd times to celebrate.

 

[Real fan 02]

Who else remembers Milloy's signature move where he'd tackle a guy who got a 1st down 20 yards downfield and then he'd do his celebration where it looked he's asking a truck driver to honk the horn? Ty Law also celebrated at weird times and then you have Chris Canty dancing around the field after forcing a fumble.

The 90's secondary's swagger was 2nd to none and I think they were the pre group celebrations we see now, but they picked odd times to celebrate.

Yeah.. kinda Brandon Meriwether esque, TE gets 25 yard gain and he celebrated like he tackled him for a loss.. yeah agree the 90s and early 2000s defensive players could play with high aggression. Polian's diva WRs were getting locked up by our secondary so he cried to the NFL competition committee. Hence ty law.. the rules for changed becuase of him and rodney..

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Who else remembers Milloy's signature move where he'd tackle a guy who got a 1st down 20 yards downfield and then he'd do his celebration where it looked he's asking a truck driver to honk the horn? Ty Law also celebrated at weird times and then you have Chris Canty dancing around the field after forcing a fumble.

The 90's secondary's swagger was 2nd to none and I think they were the pre group celebrations we see now, but they picked odd times to celebrate.

I appreciate the initiative and expression of enthusiasm and animation. Yes it can be stupid BUT, across sports, teammates may not admit it but by knowing your guy is fired up you want to match that intensity, as opposed to resenting it.

You want to win and have a happy day. Most of this is cultural, too. The guys who pioneered celebrating in the 60's were really going against the norm.

 

[State]

Tippett - Nelson - Buoniconti - Hightower

Damn that's one hell of a lb crew

Yes, they are. Damn. Just saying those names provides a shiver of excitement.

Guaranteed to cure EDD, too.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Didn’t tatupu cost us a game in Denver one year?

 

[captain stone]

Didn’t tatupu cost us a game in Denver one year?

November 4th, 1984:

https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore/new-england-patriots-vs-denver-broncos-1984110410

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Didn’t tatupu cost us a game in Denver one year?

Yeah but Eason was the QB so that jinxed it

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

November 4th, 1984:

https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore/new-england-patriots-vs-denver-broncos-1984110410

Didn’t Tatupu cost us a game in Denver one year?

Which reminds me, Tom Brady also cost us a game in Miami one year

 

[jimnance]

Didn’t tatupu cost us a game in Denver one year?

Yeah mosi decided to mosey at the wrong time

 

[captain stone]

Which reminds me, Tom Brady also cost us a game in Miami one year

Yep, 20 years after Mosi (& Eason & Tony Franklin) cost us in Denver.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I remember a game in k.c. (I think) where Bledsoe led a late comeback, but miss-a-Terri missed the field goal kick and parcells almost cut him!
Could have changed everything if parcells had cut him.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Yeah mosi decided to mosey at the wrong time

Yep, 20 years after Mosi (& Eason & Tony Franklin) cost us in Denver.

It's tough to win in Denver. That altitude.

Elway scrambled away from the pass rush and made plays.

And Joe Collier's D made plays too - often turnovers.

 

[Vindicate]

Fascinating how team chemistry and motivation work to make or sabotage an entire season. While talent matters, psychology is arguably the determining factor in professional sports. (See Bruins 1971/2023)

Good decisions by ownership and/or management can enable and inspire players to perform together positively, and to overcome adversity and see it as a challenge to overcome.

As opposed to poor decisions, which lead players to conclude they're on their own, every man for himself, we're doing this to get paid and that's it. And more often than not, major injuries occur under these circumstances. You're just not playing with the kind of adrenaline, attention, intensity and emotion as when you're engaged.

A team can be greater - or less than - the sum of its parts.

Celtics 2023 also confirm this.

 

[captain stone]

I remember a game in k.c. (I think) where Bledsoe led a late comeback, but miss-a-Terri missed the field goal kick and parcells almost cut him!
Could have changed everything if parcells had cut him.

We were living in Galveston TX by then, and I remember CBS going to that final drive after the game I had been watching ended...

https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore/new-england-patriots-vs-kansas-city-chiefs-1999101004

youtube 1999 patriots at chiefs week 5

That was during Pete Carroll's last year as HC of the NEP; and this loss (& another in which the Vinitraitor missed a chip-shot game-winner, on Saint Stephen's Day at home vs Doug & the Flutie Flakes) quite possibly, if not likely, cost Mr Pumped N Jacked his job.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

A few months ago, I seem to remember patriot running backs losing their tiny minds and maybe costing us two games in season! Forget Buffalo, last year, we were done in by those two games

 

[Vindicate]

We were living in Galveston TX by then, and I remember CBS going to that final drive after the game I had been watching ended...

https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore/new-england-patriots-vs-kansas-city-chiefs-1999101004

youtube 1999 patriots at chiefs week 5

That was during Pete Carroll's last year as HC of the NEP; and this loss (& another in which the Vinitraitor missed a chip-shot game-winner, on Saint Stephen's Day at home vs Doug & the Flutie Flakes) quite possibly, if not likely, cost Mr Pumped N Jacked his job.

You have a remarkable capacity for nicknames hahaha