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Someone here posted a clip of a Titans player addressing a team meeting as if he were Vrabel, and Vrabel is in the corner watching him do it, and the imitation was spot on, and they players were losing it over it. Vrabel is really good at connecting with players, while simultaneously making it clear that his expectations are high and he’s completely in charge. I think he’s going to be a great coach for this team.
Vrabel is EXACTLY what the Patriots organization needed. As fan each time I see coach speak or interact with the media I get the feeling of confidence.

We are going to be a tough out come this season, and I can bet you AFCE coaches are already wondering how are they going move ball against our D.
 
Vrabel is EXACTLY what the Patriots organization needed. As fan each time I see coach speak or interact with the media I get the feeling of confidence.

We are going to be a tough out come this season, and I can bet you AFCE coaches are already wondering how are they going move ball against our D.
They are going to be able to take advantage of bad football, something MV spoke of on his intro presser.
 
They are going to be able to take advantage of bad football, something MV spoke of on his intro presser.
100%... that is something else I was going to mention. Forcing QBs into mistakes.. make offenses do what they are uncomfortable with. We have guys at every level of the defense there is literally no weaknesses on D.
 
100%... that is something else I was going to mention. Forcing QBs into mistakes.. make offenses do what they are uncomfortable with. We have guys at every level of the defense there is literally no weaknesses on D.


I am trying to avoid getting too pumped up about the defense. They haven't taken the field yet. Like you, I don't see a lot of holes. I think we should pump the brakes on them on April 9th. I like where they are headed, but they are a long way from playing at a championship level. Still...

 
I suspect that we'll have a stinker or 2(it happens), but I feel that we'll be a tough out, and we haven't even gotten to the draft, which has a bunch of great prospects on D.
I'm always glued to the draft, this year is going to be different, cuz I suspect we'll be pretty pumped.
 


I am trying to avoid getting too pumped up about the defense. They haven't taken the field yet. Like you, I don't see a lot of holes. I think we should pump the brakes on them on April 9th. I like where they are headed, but they are a long way from playing at a championship level. Still...

Oh most definitely for sure. But I'd say this.. when's the last time we could say we have the "potential " to be a top 5 unit in the league?..

Reason for us to be optimistic is the talent on defense is far superior than what was there last season. We had 28 sacks.. Williams and landry had more than half of that themselves as players.

Yes we are a long ways away from week 1.. however barring major injuries this D will be a force to be reckoned.
 
I suspect that we'll have a stinker or 2(it happens), but I feel that we'll be a tough out, and we haven't even gotten to the draft, which has a bunch of great prospects on D.
I'm always glued to the draft, this year is going to be different, cuz I suspect we'll be pretty pumped.
Split with Buffalo. I feel like we sweep Jets and finally beat Tua.
 
100%... that is something else I was going to mention. Forcing QBs into mistakes.. make offenses do what they are uncomfortable with. We have guys at every level of the defense there is literally no weaknesses on D.
We don't have a true FS, let alone a solid one. I consider that a weakness, and one I hope they figure out a way to properly address.
 
We don't have a true FS, let alone a solid one. I consider that a weakness, and one I hope they figure out a way to properly address.
While your right John! In saying that.. hard for me to think of a healthy and rested dugger and peppers as weakness per say.. my money is on Hawkins or epps given ample opportunity to take the FS position in camp..
 
While your right John! In saying that.. hard for me to think of a healthy and rested dugger and peppers as weakness per say.. my money is on Hawkins or epps given ample opportunity to take the FS position in camp..
Dugger and/or Peppers might solve the SS position, but even then they are nearing or at 30 (I didn't like the drafting of Dugger for the same reason I didn't like the drafting of Keion White; both were 24 as Rookies). Epps and or Hawkins might do for this season, but beyond that we need an serious upgrade of young talent at FS. And, we'll be needing a serious upgrade of young talent at SS soon!
 
Dugger and/or Peppers might solve the SS position, but even then they are nearing or at 30 (I didn't like the drafting of Dugger for the same reason I didn't like the drafting of Keion White; both were 24 as Rookies). Epps and or Hawkins might do for this season, but beyond that we need an serious upgrade of young talent at FS. And, we'll be needing a serious upgrade of young talent at SS soon!
If we draft Hunter at #4, he might be your FS on passing downs. I am not sure you need a FS on all three downs with Peppers, Duggar, Mapu, etc. available. It is a bit of a guess, but I imagine Hunter could play in dime.

Easier to learn, less physically taxing, Hunter has great athleticism, and is great in zone (single high FS is similar to zone in making decisions).
 
Yeah, just checked and it was deleted. Just laying out his expectations and rules. Can tell he is the leader of the room. Not a buddy
I just posted a thread with a working version of the video:

 
While your right John! In saying that.. hard for me to think of a healthy and rested dugger and peppers as weakness per say.. my money is on Hawkins or epps given ample opportunity to take the FS position in camp..
Dugger and/or Peppers might solve the SS position, but even then they are nearing or at 30 (I didn't like the drafting of Dugger for the same reason I didn't like the drafting of Keion White; both were 24 as Rookies). Epps and or Hawkins might do for this season, but beyond that we need an serious upgrade of young talent at FS. And, we'll be needing a serious upgrade of young talent at SS soon!
I think Peppers will be the deep SS and Dugger will be up near the box Chung style. This should help Dugger have a bounce back year. FS is the big question mark and will be between Hawkins, Epps or a draft pick.
 
If we draft Hunter at #4, he might be your FS on passing downs. I am not sure you need a FS on all three downs with Peppers, Duggar, Mapu, etc. available. It is a bit of a guess, but I imagine Hunter could play in dime.

Easier to learn, less physically taxing, Hunter has great athleticism, and is great in zone (single high FS is similar to zone in making decisions).
That's certainly possible. McCourty started his career as a CB. But, as Hunter is unlikely to be there at #4, that still leaves a hole in the Secondary. Also, if Hunter is there at #4, I'm not 100% certain that we should take him (but I'm not saying that we shouldn't). I'm conflicted on that 1st Round Pick.
 
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