OT: Chargers Moving to Los Angeles

[Patjew]

There but for the grace of Kraft go I.

 

[Patstopia]

I am just glad they didn't move to Vegas.

 

[Bradyking12]

Next is the Las Vegas Raiders announcement whenever that happens but its a guarantee at this point that the Raiders are going to Vegas just a matter of when

 

[JayNM]

How long before either the Rams or Bolts (or both) move out of LA? OVER/UNDER 8 Years

 

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

This year, accurate. Historically, not really.

You'll find in years when the Chargers are a playoff team they are pulling in 90% capacity.

When they don't they are in the 80% range.

Regardless they are incredibly profitable.

They are the 28th biggest TV market next to Baltimore, RDU, KC, Indy and Nashville.

In the mid-late 2000s they hit 92-96% capacity

Please read what I have read and tell me where the cheap-ass Spanos family can't afford to kick in a few bucks for a new stadium.

2013 San Diego Chargers Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com
2013 NFL Football Attendance - National Football League - ESPN
San Diego Chargers revenue 2001-2015 | Statistic
San Diego Chargers franchise value 2002-2016 | Statistic
Chargers worth $1.5B as profit soars

I agree. Lack of support? That's BS. Here we have our national championship pulling in 40% capacity, and nobody will dare to move any team. You support your team just watching the game at home - all the sponsors pay the money for that. People inside the stadium represents a tiny slice of the profit (100% occupation represents 54m - but you have more costs - so 80% occupation means less than 10m a year.
If the stadium is 80% occupied, which is great, compared to other stadiums and mainly other sports, the only loss for the team would be the noise because it would have less supporters to scream for them, which is still debatable if that differece 20% helps at all.
''As a business, the San Diego Chargers are worth $1.53 billion — 53 percent more than last year, according to an estimate released Monday by Forbes.

The team’s operating profit increased by 62 percent in a single year to $64.8 million in 2014, powered by $39 million for each team in higher national TV and licensing revenues.''

The owner wants a publicly funded stadium and that's it with the tax payers paying for operational costs as well. If it's for lack of support Miami Heat, TB Rays and all the others would have left Miami and Tampa a long time ago.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

 

[AtomicDawg]

That is brilliant. He/she deserves a raise/promotion.

 

[Bradyking12]

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I agree with you but TIF's increase your homeowners taxes while giving deals to people who can more afford them. The company I work for did it to build a new hospital and the 20 year deal is nearing it's end. My guess is there will be new talks to extend it.

I think he was joking.
A "tax deal" is a "use of public funds." It reduces "public funds" by reducing the tax revenue taken in by a municipality or state.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Roger Goodell chimes in with his honest, thoughtful, and accurate assessment of the situation. Via PFT:

“For more than a decade, the San Diego Chargers have worked diligently toward finding a local stadium solution, which all sides agreed was required. These efforts took on added intensity in the last two years. A year ago, NFL owners granted the Chargers an option to move to Los Angeles. Rather than immediately exercising that option, the team spent the past year continuing to work on finding a stadium solution in San Diego.

“The Chargers worked tirelessly this past year with local officials and community leaders on a ballot initiative that fell short on election day. That work – and the years of effort that preceded it – reflects our strongly held belief we always should do everything we can to keep a franchise in its community. That’s why we have a deliberate and thoughtful process for making these decisions.

“Relocation is painful for teams and communities. It is especially painful for fans, and the fans in San Diego have given the Chargers strong and loyal support for more than 50 years, which makes it even more disappointing that we could not solve the stadium issue. As difficult as the news is for Charger fans, I know Dean Spanos and his family did everything they could to try to find a viable solution in San Diego.”

 

[Deus Irae]

Good for San Diego. They didn't let the league hold them up.

 

[ivanvamp]

Good for San Diego. They didn't let the league hold them up.

I agree.

The downside, of course, is that now they don't have an NFL franchise.

 

[SVN]

So stupid. Spanos is paying $550m relocation fee . he couldve put that + $300m from league to ask for much less in SD. The league itself is dumb . They couldve footed the bill for the stadium but as bedard points out it will hit their bottom line so they wont care.
What first-time coaches can learn from Belichick

Shame on Spanos, NFL on Chargers: After 56 seasons, the San Diego Chargers are no more, according to many reports. Like the Rams before them, and with the Raiders right behind them, deep-pocketed owners and the league are leaving behind a loyal, passionate fan base to move to an unfamiliar locale all because a city was smart enough not to contribute more than nominally to a new stadium. Good luck, Dean Spanos, sharing the new Los Angeles stadium with the Rams and developing a fan base. See how that works out. And this is what happens when commissioner Roger Goodell is only worried about reaching his goal of $25 billion in revenue by 2027. God forbid the NFL took money out of its own pockets and stocked and fixed the G-4 stadium fund program so that it could assist these owners in building new stadiums. That would help the league in the long term too, but it might cause Goodell to miss his revenue goals. We wouldn’t want that to happen.

 

[Wheelman]

I gotta say I'm glad we won't be playing at the Chargers until 2020. I didn't want to lose our homefield advantage with that small stadium.

 

[PatsDeb]

Good for San Diego. They didn't let the league hold them up.

But sad for loyal San Diego fans...

 

[PatsDeb]

Roger Goodell chimes in with his honest, thoughtful, and accurate assessment of the situation. Via PFT:

“For more than a decade, the San Diego Chargers have worked diligently toward finding a local stadium solution, which all sides agreed was required. These efforts took on added intensity in the last two years. A year ago, NFL owners granted the Chargers an option to move to Los Angeles. Rather than immediately exercising that option, the team spent the past year continuing to work on finding a stadium solution in San Diego.

“The Chargers worked tirelessly this past year with local officials and community leaders on a ballot initiative that fell short on election day. That work – and the years of effort that preceded it – reflects our strongly held belief we always should do everything we can to keep a franchise in its community. That’s why we have a deliberate and thoughtful process for making these decisions.

“Relocation is painful for teams and communities. It is especially painful for fans, and the fans in San Diego have given the Chargers strong and loyal support for more than 50 years, which makes it even more disappointing that we could not solve the stadium issue. As difficult as the news is for Charger fans, I know Dean Spanos and his family did everything they could to try to find a viable solution in San Diego.”

God, I hate this guy.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Roger Goodell chimes in with his honest, thoughtful, and accurate assessment of the situation. Via PFT:

“For more than a decade, the San Diego Chargers have worked diligently toward finding a local stadium solution, which all sides agreed was required. These efforts took on added intensity in the last two years. A year ago, NFL owners granted the Chargers an option to move to Los Angeles. Rather than immediately exercising that option, the team spent the past year continuing to work on finding a stadium solution in San Diego.

“The Chargers worked tirelessly this past year with local officials and community leaders on a ballot initiative that fell short on election day. That work – and the years of effort that preceded it – reflects our strongly held belief we always should do everything we can to keep a franchise in its community. That’s why we have a deliberate and thoughtful process for making these decisions.

“Relocation is painful for teams and communities. It is especially painful for fans, and the fans in San Diego have given the Chargers strong and loyal support for more than 50 years, which makes it even more disappointing that we could not solve the stadium issue. As difficult as the news is for Charger fans, I know Dean Spanos and his family did everything they could to try to find a viable solution in San Diego.”

As usual, Goody is not being completely truthful.

I'm not up to speed on all the trials and tribulations that went on b/t/w the team and SD but my understanding is there was a SD funded $1.3b stadium deal on the table near the old one but the Chargers said no. They wanted a downtown one but wanted 100% paid for by the city. That was voted down. I bet if the Spanos family kicked in what they would to relocate it would have passed. Just a gut.

Seems to me SD just wanted out no matter what. It was Art Modell 2.0. They claim they tried to get a deal done but they really didn't want to try hard enough.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/sports/football/san-diego-rejects-chargers-stadium.html?_r=0

 

[JayNM]

For real tough, i liked their new logo.

At least that it's something good going for them.

 

[Wheelman]

I don't get this. Didn't the Rams just move there and have lower ratings this season? I thought that it was either the Rams or San Diego were going to move, and since the Rams already did, that was it. This BS about getting someone else to pay for your stadium, at the expense of long-standing fan bases, is going to come back and bite the NFL in the arse. Aren't the Raiders also supposed to move to Las Vegas?

Listen up NFL - your ratings and your revenue are going down because you are pissing off your bread and butter - fans that have supported you and your franchises for years. In New England there is a concerted boycott, or at least NFL fatigue over the BS you pulled with Tom Brady that is not going away. St. Louis, San Diego and soon Oakland also have, or will have, a bad taste over you and your shenanigans. Your attempts to export the NFL to the world are failing - it's not catching on so big anywhere else, and home fans are pissed about losing home games for their teams. You refuse to hire full time refs and train them so that there is consistency in the way games are called.

You need to fix these problems rather than move teams around willy-nilly trying to come up with the best stadiums. That is only one small piece of the puzzle and you are failing big time.

Nice post! But it's the NFL referees association who don't want to be full time refs. They like being part time refs.

 

[Wheelman]

Look at the logo. It's ugly. Looks like the Dodgers.

Lol! I thought that logo was a troll job by aggrieved chargers fans. That's a horrible logo!