Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Ravens beat the Pats

[1960Pats]

Agreed. Playing some good football and out of nowhere throws bonehead passes which are INTs or nearly INTs. Worrying.

Mac looked like Drew Bledsoe but without the zip on his passes. Same decision making though.

I put 20,000 Dingle Dollars on the Pats under 8.5 wins for the season. Losing Mac hurts the Pats but helps my bet.

 

[1960Pats]

That pick in the endzone was brutal

There were a couple of key plays by Wynn, a penalty and a missed block, that also helped derail the Pats. Not to mention Algholor's fumble. And then there's Judon over-pursuing Jackson and letting him get around the edge on a big 3rd down play, even though it was the only opening Jackson had. Judon seems to do that with Josh Allen too and gets faked out of his jock.

As bad as Mac has been this year, what will BB do after Mac's ready, if Hoyer ends up playing better and winning?

 

[captain stone]

That’s in part why MJ was drafted. Good question.

And it was the ONLY reason why anyone would've ever considered drafting him on day 2 instead of somewhere between 121 - 158... This ****ing sh!t doesn't make any ****ing sense at all.

 

[Pats2000]

Oy vey.

We're talking about the talent they collected. Aaron Donald, their star, for instance. Goff as well.

They were super lucky to play the most inept Super Bowl team in decades. Worse than the Panthers.

I dunno, the Bears with Rex Grossman was pretty bad. That SB was a pretty foregone conclusion

 

[upstater1]

I dunno, the Bears with Rex Grossman was pretty bad. That SB was a pretty foregone conclusion

True, very true.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

The question I'd like the board to answer is whether Bill agrees to pay him what Lamar is asking for in guaranteed money above $230M?

We had an advantage of having a qb take a team discount for 20 years. Hard to imagine this regime paying top dollar for one now.

 

[Deus Irae]

The ball was still in his hands, and he should've known with one look that the corner route was a loser and gone somewhere else... Parker shares in the blame along with his QB & OC.

Jones can't wait on that throw. He has to assume a Parker win.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Jones can't wait on that throw. He has to assume a Parker win.

Agree. And Parker ended up playing it like he was a decoy or blocker on the play, he didn't do anything an actual target would do such as get to the corner and look back.

 

[Deus Irae]

Agree. And Parker ended up playing it like he was a decoy or blocker on the play, he didn't do anything an actual target would do such as get to the corner and look back.

The problem with 50/50 balls is that they're 50/50 balls. And Mr. 80/20, even in a game where he was showing his upside, showed us why Miami was happy to move on from him.

 

[TomPatriot]

The problem with 50/50 balls is that they're 50/50 balls. And Mr. 80/20, even in a game where he was showing his upside, showed us why Miami was happy to move on from him.

He soft.

 

[VJCPatriot]

The question I'd like the board to answer is whether Bill agrees to pay him what Lamar is asking for in guaranteed money above $230M?

If the Patriots had taken Lamar Jackson. They surely would have used his talents in some way, to make use of his legs and arm. But with TB12 here, Jackson's first full season starting would be 2020 if we assume everything went down the same way. That also changes the trajectory of salary he would be demanding/commanding.

In any case if Jackson showed who he was in 2020 and 2021, the question always becomes, do you pay market value for a great QB. And the answer is always yes if you value winning.

TB12 taking below average contract value for the position for two decades is an outlier and an abnormality that we will likely never see again. Yet people are still happy to trash him on the way out just because he took on a new uniform and was sick and tired of he way BB would never give him a long term contract extension.

I place full blame for Brady leaving on BB. He showed TB12 the door, lied and said there was no money because we had to pay it to a Guard instead, then shipped out that guard next year for a 5th round pick. Then the next year he claims he was 'forced' to spend a 1st round pick on a guard that he got rid of himself. Pathetic asset management.

 

[ashley]

Cleaning out the Patriots notebook from Reiss, some good stuff:

 

[Jim Beankie]

Cleaning out the Patriots notebook from Reiss, some good stuff:

One can tell that Reiss is more fired up than usual. Good stuff. Thanks!

 

[ashley]

One can tell that Reiss is more fired up than usual. Good stuff. Thanks!

Lol, exactly Jim. Losses when you're competitive and you lose because of turnovers are frustrating. At least it's fixable, I hope. If we can hold onto the ball, we should be in most of these games.

 

[ashley]

Good read by Lazar:

 

[captain stone]

Jones can't wait on that throw. He has to assume a Parker win.

Why can't he wait? This isn't a screen-pass situation; there were other receivers running routes too.

 

[ashley]

Nice blocking by Strange and Brown and a good cutback run:

 

[Deus Irae]

Why can't he wait? This isn't a screen-pass situation; there were other receivers running routes too.

He can't wait because he has to get the ball out. It's not a 50 yard bomb, where he's buying time to go deep downfield. It's a shorter "will throw" route where he has to depend upon the receiver dominating the DB in a one-on-one situation. Parker claims it was a miscommunication. In other words, Parker's claiming that he didn't realize that was the call.

 

[SVN]

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Mac has to realize what his strengths are and they do not include throwing the ball down field consistently. He should be fishing in shallow waters. He can be a very successful QB in this league by dinking and dunking.