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  1. A Defiant Goose

    A Defiant Goose In the Starting Line-Up

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    LOVE the Dalton Keene pick. VT fan, watched him all year. TE group may actually be solid this year
     
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  2. Sfpat

    Sfpat In the Starting Line-Up

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    They should, based on everything they've done. But that's why they play the games
     
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  3. Sfpat

    Sfpat In the Starting Line-Up

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    Injuries happen. Look at the Pats last year
     
  4. TommyBrady12

    TommyBrady12 Pro Bowl Player

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    Most likely, but they could be anywhere from a 1 seed to 7 seed.
     
  5. BUSTAMOVE

    BUSTAMOVE Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    future 6th Est-13
    loss minus 7
    Edit: This can go 5 points one way or another depending on where the 2021 pick falls
     
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  6. Ring 6

    Ring 6 PatsFans.com Wall of Fame Member

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    S check
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    2 TE check

    Leaves
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  7. masterbouncer

    masterbouncer PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter NFL Picks Grand Champ!

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    are you sure the future 6th is Pats one and not one of the two they gained due to trades (Bennett to Dallas and Thomas to the Jets)?
     
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  8. BUSTAMOVE

    BUSTAMOVE Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    They said it was the one we received from the Jets from the Thomas trade. I just estimated a mid round 6th
     
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  9. Ivan

    Ivan Hall of Fame Poster

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    What did you expect from the post Brady years, continue winning 80% of their games? If they even have a shot at the Wild Card game this season I’ll be thrilled. Belichick’s job at this point is to build the entire roster to a Championship level, and hopefully find the right QB to lead the franchise before hanging them up. They resigned Caserio, which was the most important move they had to make imo, They are absorbing the dead money and cap hits now so as to free up cap space in coming years. And now they are having a Draft that is adding speed and athleticism at positions of need, without sacrificing future Draft capital. Hopefully they will be able to create more cap space to fill some holes with veterans by a positive resolution to the Antonio Brown grievance, and then we will see how competitive they are next season, and where work needs to be done. If they are seriously contending for a Lombardi again 3-4 years from now I’ll be really happy with the rebuild, if not Belichick will have failed in the rebuild. I don’t believe he will fail, and I’m going to be fascinated to see how he goes about this.
     
  10. luuked

    luuked Pro Bowl Player

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    Punt return against the Eagles.
     
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  11. masterbouncer

    masterbouncer PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter NFL Picks Grand Champ!

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    ok so it was stated that it was the Jets pick? haven't found it out yet which one they gave away next year, thanks

    though if its the Jete one, its probably top 5 pick in any round :D
     
  12. One-If-By-Sea

    One-If-By-Sea Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I read the sprain was so bad he ended up having surgery.
     
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  13. BUSTAMOVE

    BUSTAMOVE Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    When the trade went through I read it was believed to be the Jets pick from the Thomas trade. I forgot all about that trade compensation so I know I read it somewhere. Saying that it could have been speculation. The Jets picked 11th this year. My estimate was for the 2021 pick being in the 14th spot and mid round. It was the only even number in that area of the 6th round. So on my estimate the value can swing 5 or so points one way or the other. That is why I used middle of the round
     
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  14. Teej

    Teej On the Game Day Roster

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    Patriot type players one and all so far...no complaints
     
  15. goheels22002

    goheels22002 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    My point was that criticism of a player of this caliber because he went to a Division 2 or 1A (or whatever they call the bowl sub-division conferences these days) is no indicator of how good this guy will be. Dugger is a stud physically and every bit a 2nd rounder who would not have been there at 87. He was the next best safety on the board after Xavier McKinney was picked just before the Pats went on the clock.

    @Deus Irae jumped on my post referencing Randy Moss as well. I should have written something more nuanced about Div 2 players.

    Dugger reminds me of Cordarelle Patterson as a return man, and excelled at the Combine in the 40 and vertical leap. If he's Patrick Chung's understudy in 2020, Belichick got a good one.

     
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    goheels22002 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Yes. Marqis Lee is a very interesting acquisition to go with the current crop of receivers. Low risk, high upside if he can stay healthy. I like the two TE picks a lot as well.

    Edelman, Harry, Meyers, Sanu, Gunner, Lee, Asiasi and Dalton "Rambo" Keene is looking good to me. More to come in the draft, free agency and UFA I imagine.

    The backfield has a bunch of pass catchers as well.
     
  17. goheels22002

    goheels22002 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    FSU? As we all know in the ACC, anybody who leaves FSU for the NFL takes a pay cut.
     
  18. 40yrpatsfan

    40yrpatsfan PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    We made a lot of moves which made it hard in real time to sense whether overall we'd improved or weakened our assets. But we didn't have that strong of a hand to start if our goal was to land 5 eventual starters, including 2 in the top 60.

    All at
    a net cost of the two 4ths plus a 2021 6th. The 2021 6th is offset with now having a higher 5th this year, and the two 4ths were directly from the last move of jumping up 30 spots into the low 3rd round (a fair price even though it was painful).​

    We moved down 14 spots from 23 to 37 to get things started, so a fair question is did we lose much with that move? Which I'd say No cause we got a promising safety + a high 3rd that was essential to the next move.

    Then we moved up 11 spots into the 2nd, 9 spots within the 3rd, and 30 spots into the 3rd. Those are big jumps. To do all that for the net capital it cost us, while filling specific holes in the roster which we often don't see from the Pats, was pretty remarkable. Cesario & BB know the ropes for sure.
     
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  19. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    We could get two players likely to make the team: a backup center and a kicker.
     
  20. borg

    borg Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Marqise
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    Now don’t make me come back and copy and paste
     

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