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Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by sb1, Mar 12, 2018.

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Could Johnny Manziel be a fit for Patriots?

  1. Id like if they give him a try

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  2. I believe he could make it here

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  3. No way Bill takes a chance on him

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  4. His NFL comeback is unlikely

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  1. TheFlyingWedge

    TheFlyingWedge In the Starting Line-Up

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    If Manziel was brought into camp to compete for a roster spot, it would only be slightly more rediculous than when Tebow was there. He would be nothing more than a camp body and a complete effing long shot to make the roster.
     
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  2. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club

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    He’s right...Tebow is a great person
     
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    PatriotsReign PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club

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    Kind of like 6th round draft picks!

    Had Flutie been given a fair shot, I have little doubt he would have been an excellent NFL QB
     
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  4. sb1

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    I don’t think Tebow was “hated” in general because of his beliefs. Russell Wilson is very candid about his Christian faith too and nobody said much about it. I think even Kaepernick was at one time.

    It was the Tebow cult that turned people off. We saw it on this board. There were quite a few vocal posters here they were not Pats fans or football fans at all...and most of them remained non fans after they left.
     
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    dafoe2016 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    This can't be serious. Did you really just pretend that Garcia, Vick and Flutie weren't miles better than Tim Tebow? Vick wasn't a great passer, but he was MUCH better than Tebow.

    Tebow got chance after chance, after chance to stick in the NFL. He couldn't make it because he's not NFL caliber talent. Not even as a backup. There was no conspiracy. His obsession with his religion had not one damn thing to do with it. Coaches want to win. They will sign anybody who helps them do that, regardless of anything else. It why the league is full of criminals.

    Get a grip. The evidence is overwhelming. Tebow was a terrible QB.
     
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  6. UptownPatsFan

    UptownPatsFan Standin' Pat

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    ...Why is this thread still active?
     
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    supafly Suddenly sad and Brady-less PatsFans.com Supporter Weekly Picks Winner

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    Is what I ask about 4-6 current threads.
     
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  8. Soliel

    Soliel PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Could Manziel play corner?

    Ooh I know, we could force him to become a slot reciever
     
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    rochrist Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract Weekly Picks Winner

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    The difference being, Flutie could play.
     
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    Joker PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    [​IMG]
     
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    Well, he wasn’t an alcoholic or a head case like Johnny. I think Manzel is very talented but QB’s need to be gifted mentally as well
     
  12. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter Weekly Picks Winner

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    We were there ...

    Manziel throws at USD; 13 NFL teams watch

     
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    I can deny it.

    57% comp rating, 1.0 td-int ratio, 23 rushing yards per game. Dude is a JAG
     
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    Excuse me, but I believe the question of the day is still, "But can he play LT?"
     
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    50-yard-line In the Starting Line-Up

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    I wish I believed this. Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick would be cheap upgrades on MANY teams, yet neither have a job and CK likely never will.
     
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    scott99 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Manziel signs a contract, in 2 years takes over for Brady after Brady retires (with Championship #6), and leads them to 5 more Championships in 15 years. Hollywood ending.
     
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    We've been through this what seems to be about a million times before, but ....
    32 NFL teams

    Going into this season (after expected draft moves), where are sensible landing spots for Kaepernick?
     
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    50-yard-line In the Starting Line-Up

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    Denver would have been - last year. Colts, too.

    I haven't been through it a million times before, and really don't want to go through it now. I think he's better than most of the back up and some of the starters out there. You don't. Agree to disagree. McCown? Kizer?
     
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    Kaepernick's got a specific skill set that doesn't involve reading from the pocket, or accuracy, as strong points, so his fit is going to be limited, and that's before we even take other issues into account. Denver had a first round pick that they wanted to give a chance, among their other QBs. Kaepernick was not a fit there. The Colts don't run an offense for Kaepernick, so he was not a fit there.

    You're underselling what McCown's been able to do in recent years. His numbers match up fine with Kaepernick, even with Kaepernick's best season included (Going 5 playing seasons back):

    Josh McCown Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

    Colin Kaepernick Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

    and look even better if you just go back a more reasonable amount of time (say 2 or 3 playing seasons).

    Kizer sucks, but he was a high pick that they wanted to give a chance. But, if you want to put Cleveland on the list, ok, that's one. Seattle was a reasonable possibility, but he didn't end up signing there. That's two. There were enough similarities to Taylor's game that he might, possibly, have fit in Buffalo. After that, there's not much left in terms of fitting options.

    And the potential good fit sort of openings aren't likely to be any less limited this year, with all the young QBs expected to come into the league at the top of the draft.
     
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    North Korea?
     
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