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Without Kraft none of this happens.Robert Kraft is NOT the team. This the Brady/Belichick show and Kraft was along for the ride. And Goondell can’t dock us picks as a deterrent.
I am sorry but I can't muster up enough empathy for a 77 year old rich guy who has had a twenty-something bimbo in his orbit for years. And while you bring up a good point about the girls who work in the place that to me is an entirely different aspect that I can still feel bad about while at the same time laughing at Kraft for being a dumbass.
I think a lot of people are missing the point here.
There are 3 people involved here.
1) The sex traffickers
2) The sex worker
3) Kraft
The problem is that both the sex trafficker and possibly Kraft have victimized the worker if true. It doesn't matter what the law says and it doesn't matter if Kraft was unaware. The fact that he did it to what may have been a sex slave, means she was victimized again at the hands of the Patriots owner. It's not a good look.
By trivializing Kraft's role in this, the victim is dehumanized again. The fact is that he may have unwillingly participated in the victimization of a victim of sex trafficking for his own gratification. If he did, and he was unaware, he should be just as shocked she was a sex slave and should cooperate fully and not try and cover his ass. By trying to beat the charges and deny it, if true, he shows little regard for her pain when it comes to his reputation. Let's just hope it's a case of mistaken identity.
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Was that girlfriend of his post-Myra actually a bimbo? I don't know anything about her.
Ricki Noel Lander, I think?
No, it's sad and pathetic that an older man who is widowed and already has a much younger GF as far as we know would seek THAT kind of sexual/female company (sleazy "massage" parlor) in his "HEY LOOK AT ME!!" Bentley. I don't think it's harsh at all to call him a foolish, dirty old man. The shoe fits.It's sad and pathetic that an older man who is widowed would seek some kind of sexual/female company?
If we grant that Kraft was unaware that those women were not there voluntary then I don't see how we can possibly critique him, other than for perhaps choosing a not-so-coy means of going about attaining this company he was seeking (which is an entirely silly critique to begin with).
I think it's rather harsh to call Bob Kraft a "foolish, dirty old man". Lacking judgment in this context is not equivalent to have some fundamental ethical flaw.
However, I do agree wholeheartedly that it's incredibly unfortunate and sad that those women were being forced into sexual slavery.
Went from 6 to 12 real quickThe virtue signalling dial has now been turned up way past 11.
Over a couple of BJs in a massage parlor.
You can call it "bad luck" for Kraft. Whether you think its reprehensible or a nothing burger, when Kraft walked into that massage parlor, he was taking a severe reputational risk that he did NOT need to take. It was either just irresponsible or dumb or arrogant. But as a billionaire, one would think he could hvae found a lower risk more private way to satisfy his urge.
Now he has dragged the entire organization and fan base down into this hole with him.
We all love the Pats here, and I wish this had never happened...BUT they got him and now there will be consequences. THis at a time whenn the organization should be completely basking in glory.
I agree up until that last part. I dont think it's fair to define a person by the worst thing they ever did.I don't find it all that funny. It's beyond pathetic on so many levels that Bob Kraft would go to a place like that (in a Bentley no less - jacka$$), and very sad/heartbreaking for the women who were there against their will or because they had no where else to go for food and shelter. I don't think that Kraft knew or even thought about the sex-trafficking angle, but good God, you dumbass, what were you thinking? The details coming out are getting more disgusting by the minute. Alas, the great Bob Kraft is nothing but a foolish, dirty old man.
How did you come with that?Kraft will most likely be fined a couple million and suspended for 8 games.
Irsay was fined 500,000 and suspended 6 games. You know how sh*tdell likes to drop the hammer on the patriotsHow did you come with that?